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Good drugs to bring to Baja

Sharksbaja - 9-16-2005 at 12:07 AM

One very important item when you run a nail through yer hand are good pain drugs. :yes:

My choice although many times stores don't carry it is; Naproxen Sodium. :cool:

Works pretty good at night.

What do you bring to Baja for pain relief?

[Edited on 9-16-2005 by Sharksbaja]

bajaden - 9-16-2005 at 12:32 AM

My first thought is, is this an on going experience. I mean this isn't a religious thing is it. You know where they nail you to a cross or something. I mean, I could understand cutting youself with a knife in your line of work. I love cooking and I have tried to amputate some of my extremities at times. Not on purpose of course.

Anyway, back to the origional question. For a nail in the hand, I'm looking for morphine and a stick to bite down on.

For most other minor problems. Such as snake bite, or bullet wounds. I usually take motrin.

Sharksbaja - 9-16-2005 at 12:51 AM

Well, I am lookin' fer simpathy. I was using a old piece of wood(with one old nail) to prop my new porch railing up and when I hit it with my palm I literally nailed my hand to the stick.

Oh great now just thinkin abou..............ch!
No heroin but plenty o sticks! :lol:

I was religious tho. I religiously pulled my hand off the nail.

Diver - 9-16-2005 at 05:03 AM

Percodan. vicatin, percosette, codiene; whatever leftover prescriptions we or our family members may have in their medicine cabinets.

Try stepping into the recently buried embers of a recently roaringing fire while over three hours from mexican medical help. Try having a truck roll over your foot - crunch. Try the stingray in the leg trick.

And although most doctors don't recommend it, I find that swallowing the pills with a sufficient dose of tequila, helps speed the pain-killing efects.

Actually, my recommendation is that you avoid all of the above-listed maladies, take the pills, drink the Tequila and have no pain; all in moderation, of course !

Also, if you do have the unfortunate accident, don't forget the gory pictures to post for your friends ! How big was that nail ???

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Dave - 9-16-2005 at 06:23 AM

This thread is a downer.

Bob and Susan - 9-16-2005 at 06:27 AM

"Percodan. vicatin, percosette, codiene"

What if WE stop taking everything???

Remember doctors ARE NOT in the business of cureing.
They are in the business of treating....

If they cured...they'd go bankrupt :light:

elgatoloco - 9-16-2005 at 06:31 AM

Correction:

Doctors are not in business, they are just practicing. :biggrin:

comitan - 9-16-2005 at 07:10 AM

Sharkes

I hope you've had a tetanus shot last 10 years.

Al G - 9-16-2005 at 07:25 AM

Take a long steel rod about the size of the nail heat it to red hot and stick it in the wound. dirnk bottle of Tequila. We would not want any infection
:lol:

[Edited on 9-16-2005 by Al G]

bajaden - 9-16-2005 at 10:12 AM

All right Sharky, you have my sympathy. I suspect all of us wanabe doctors need to find another line of work. Excuse me, I have to go drink a bottle of tequila.

Oxycodone is a Friend of Mine

MrBillM - 9-16-2005 at 10:19 AM

I'm always well-supplied with Oxycodone (Percocet) because of back problems so I've got the Pain part covered. We buy Amoxicillin (100 x 500mg) in Baja for infections, etc. Under $15.00.

Naproxyn Sodium

DanO - 9-16-2005 at 04:18 PM

I could be wrong about this, but didn't the FDA take the prescription versions of this drug off the market because it was causing heart problems?

Anyway, a combination of two advil and two tylenol (recommended by my dentist, and he oughta know) seems to work for most aches and pains. For serious injuries, you need a synthetic opiate like hydrocodone, and ice if it's handy. Avoid attempting to operate heavy equipment.

Tequila will help you ignore the pain, but it'll also impair your judgment and make you more likely to exacerbate your injury, especially on top of a serious painkiller. "Hell, this broken arm don't hurt that much. Let's arm-wrestle!"

bajaden - 9-16-2005 at 10:36 PM

I'll tell you right now Dano old boy. No offense intended with the old boy. It doesn't take much to impair my judgement. An atractive woman, a cute puppy, a post by Sharky, an afair with Judy. Of course, all of these were after the bottle of tequila. I think I'm ready for Westminister. Bring on the dogs.

painkillers

Price - 9-17-2005 at 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diver
Percodan. vicatin, percosette, codiene; whatever leftover prescriptions we or our family members may have in their medicine cabinets.

Try stepping into the recently buried embers of a recently roaringing fire while over three hours from mexican medical help. Try having a truck roll over your foot - crunch. Try the stingray in the leg trick.

And although most doctors don't recommend it, I find that swallowing the pills with a sufficient dose of tequila, helps speed the pain-killing efects.

Actually, my recommendation is that you avoid all of the above-listed maladies, take the pills, drink the Tequila and have no pain; all in moderation, of course !

Also, if you do have the unfortunate accident, don't forget the gory pictures to post for your friends ! How big was that nail ???

.

Price - 9-17-2005 at 02:24 AM

Of the painkillers on the list - how available are they in Baja ? We have a supply - but when we run out do we need another perscription from a Mexican Dr. or will anyplace accept American scripts ?

cracked ribs

jerry - 9-17-2005 at 05:55 AM

few yrs. back i was in loreto i fell and cracked 3 ribs i used tequala for medicine for the first 4 days when i couldnt stand it any more i went to al three hospetals got xrays had a cast installed to hold them in place and was written every kinda non drug painkiller theres in mexico nothing worked i suffered for 3 days more chasing these with tequla finnaly i insisted to a pharmisist that i needed drugs a mexican woman in the pharmisy who spoke no english grabed me and took me to dr green he looked at the xray and perscribed simple darvon after 14 more pharmisys i finally found some on a back street in a pharmisy in a private reasdence LATER I FOUND OUT THAT ONLY 2 DOCTORS IN LORETO AT THAT TIME COULD PERSCRIBE REAL DRUGS AND NON OF THENM WERE WORKING IN ANY OF THE 3 HOSPITLES
have a good one jerry

turtleandtoad - 9-17-2005 at 06:14 AM

There are doctors in Mexico that CAN'T perscribe drugs? :?:

jerry - 9-17-2005 at 06:31 AM

yes in loreto there was only 2 that could.Dr green is one i dont know the other
and noone in all 3 hospitals that i went to could give a perscription for anything but over the counter drugs

turtleandtoad - 9-17-2005 at 07:04 AM

And these guys are certified/licensed doctors?

Someone will have to explain this to me, are there different levels of doctors, with different training and levels of competence?

How do you tell the difference between them?

jerry - 9-17-2005 at 12:08 PM

i didnt ask to see there liscense :?:

AFTER THE THE 3RD HOSPITAL I WAS TOLD BY THE PHARMIST THAT THERE WERE ONLT 2 THAT COULD PERCSRIBE NARCOTIC DRUGS

turtleandtoad - 9-17-2005 at 12:22 PM

So, maybe they were our equivalent to a Nurse Practitioner or Physicians Assistant? Anyone know if Mexico has such a thing?

Although I believe that, in the US, NP's and PA's can perscribe narcotics (may be wrong about that but I know the PA's in the Navy/Coast Guard could).

The reason I'm asking is because, considering how much time I spend in Baja, I'm bound to end up in a hospital sooner or later and "forewarned is forearmed". :lol:

[Edited on 9-17-2005 by turtleandtoad]

Sharksbaja - 9-17-2005 at 01:09 PM

"Although I believe that, in the US, NP's and PA's can perscribe narcotics (may be wrong about that but I know the PA's in the Navy/Coast Guard could)."

Yes they can.

jerry - 9-17-2005 at 02:53 PM

loreto sure isnt the U.S. theres 3 hospitals and as i see it none of them are any good even the locals will head out of town to constatusion to have there babys i was told that its getting better but i sure hope i dont have to find out any time soona while back a lot of gringos whould bring things to the hospital and it all ended up in lapaz because theres more ppl in lapaz i have donated to a non profit corp that loans things to the loteto hospital so they cant claim it for lapaz or anyother out of town hospital but i havent heard latly whatas happening with it??

Medical Care in Mexico

MrBillM - 9-17-2005 at 03:28 PM

My closet and oldest friend in Baja (now deceased) lived fulltime in Baja for almost thirty years and had numerous successful surgical procedures performed in Tijuana and Ensenada, including Cancer surgery, and was pleased with all levels of care he received.

On the other hand, the financially secure Mexicans I know in the San Felipe area have always gone to San Diego whenever serious surgery was required.

Fortunately, I have not yet had any need to utilize Mexican Medical care.

jerry - 9-17-2005 at 05:48 PM

i hear the same thing about la pas and mexico city i guess the small towns are just out of luck when it comes to hospitals i know most of the doctors are trained in the usa i think its really not mutch different here the best medical care is in the bigger citys in the usa too itsjust that the small towns have some care and can keep you alive tell they get ya to a bigger city
i few years back a skipper had a heart attack they hauled him a hour to constution in an ambulence he was dead when he got there there was no oxagen in the ambulence
i know know that the gringos have donated an ambulence fire truck and trained a few ppl that its getting better and perhaps now that loreto is gonna be a\big city perhaps it will be better yet have a good one jerry PS please dont think that i m complaning i love loreto just stating the facts THE GOOD WITH THE BAD

Loerto Docs

Sallysouth - 9-19-2005 at 02:52 PM

Yeah, Jerry is right about Dr. Green and he makes house calls!! (hey Jerry, how about some periods in your posts? It would make them a heck of a lot easier to read!!)

Marie-Rose - 9-19-2005 at 07:25 PM

Our friends, who live fulltime in Todos Santos, are very complimentary about the care that they have recieved at the local clinic. They say they have had to visit several times and the "residents" (I use that term loosely as I am not sure that they are actually residents as we would call them in Canada or US) were professional, and diagnosed and prescribed successful treatment.

jerry - 9-30-2005 at 09:39 PM

thanks sally but i dont have a period if i did id gladly leave it here on the page i hear that it makes some people ornry and opinated :lol:

FrankO - 9-30-2005 at 10:30 PM

I always take a few vicoden w/me w/the proper RX so I'm legal.... mix one or two of those w/a beer or two and it takes the edge right off of pretty much anything.
That and benadryl and some epiniphrene. An allergic reaction shouldn't kill you.

Markitos21 - 10-1-2005 at 06:46 AM

Once while surfing near Puerto Escondido (mainland) I went over the falls on a rather large wave. I face planted into the sand and ripped my nose darn near off my face. Some of the local guys thru me in the back of a truck and shipped me to Dr. Peppe's. It was nothing more then 4 block walls and a cement bench. I was bit worried, I didnt want to be looking all Frankenstin and all. Ol Doc Peppe scrubbed and scrubbed then stitched me back to gether with what seamed to be horse hair stitchs. I mean these things where huge hanging off mt nose about 2". He re set my nose bone and gave me some pain killers and sent me on my way.
about a week later I took out the stitches and low and behold it was the best patch jod I ever had, clean and hardley a scar.
I dont know if Dr. Peppe was even a real Doctor but hey who cares , no infection nice clean work and all for the low price of 40.00 US !!
That little job would have bee 4000.00 up north. The funny thing is there was another surf guy that was hurt, He didnt go to the Dr.s 4 days later he was racing home because his leg was turning green. I'll take my chances in Mexico ant time. Thanks Dr Peppe

bajaloco - 10-1-2005 at 10:08 AM

You'd be surprised at the level of "training" to be a "doctor" in Mexico. We have a medical assistant who works for us who says he is a doctor in Mexico. A medical assistant is not licenced to do anything. It's not even a nurse. It's frightening to think he's a doctor in Mexico...

turtleandtoad - 10-1-2005 at 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajaloco
You'd be surprised at the level of "training" to be a "doctor" in Mexico. We have a medical assistant who works for us who says he is a doctor in Mexico. A medical assistant is not licenced to do anything. It's not even a nurse. It's frightening to think he's a doctor in Mexico...

I think you might be misunderstanding the situation. He may very well be a doctor in Mexico, but can't practice in the US until he passes his boards here in the US and is working as an assistant while preparing for those boards.

The way I understand it, the recipical agreement between the US and Mexico is limited to graduates of certain medical schools and does not cover board certification. Not sure if this is a federal thing or is run by each state. I understand this also applies to dentists.

I've run across other Mexicans that were doing the same thing in US hospitals and clinics for that very reason. Quite a few of them in Arizonia.