BajaNomad - Nightmare at Tecalote

Nightmare at Tecalote

jones - 1-29-2006 at 07:26 PM

Sunday afternoon, a delightful day at my favorite beach in La Paz.
My family and I had this joyful time, when, as I imagine in an African country, the Locust came. As far as I could see there were motor homes, newly arrived and well organized. They took all available parking between the two restaurants. To the organizers and participants of this epic caravan: ARE YOU NUTS!
You would not do this in Santa Barbara or Santa Monica; in Shelter Island the Harbor Police would chase you away within minutes.
I'm pondering why local government is not stopping this, why is she, the Secretary of Tourism of the state, not outraged to what is happening to one of the most pristine and beautiful beaches in Baja? Eriik.

Capt. George - 1-29-2006 at 07:44 PM

Get used to it bud, all these people are stateside oriented....ohhh we have too go with 600 people....ooohhh it's Mexico you know! Ohh, look at the army with its guns....oohhh, why don't they speak English, they're so rude!

Tecolote. one of my favorites too....the baby boomers are on their way, in droves! And they can't seem to do anything alone...Look at where they live, 3 ft alleys seperating their homes....pack em in, gated community...look at Los Barriles, good God, what a nightmare....Nopolo, alleyways and they casn't sell fast enough...Baja is found..Egads...

I know everyone has their right to their own thing...but if you want the states......just, please, stay there.......<

>>>< Capt. George

surfer jim - 1-29-2006 at 08:06 PM

I just hope they don't.....SURF.....

Capt. George - 1-29-2006 at 08:12 PM

they'll learn, right on your best wave...get out of my way surfer jim...we been here 3 days already! scram.......<

>>><

Hope they don't fish!!!!!

Nightmare??

Jack Swords - 1-30-2006 at 07:10 AM

Wow, the subject line made me see what happened at Tecolote...robbery, murder, ?. A caravan at a public beach that has free camping! If they filled the area between restaurants perhaps they were eating there and supporting the Mexican owners. More importantly, turn to your right, away from the restaurants, and the dirt road will take you down the beach where it is not inhabited. Keep going and there are still pristine beaches all around Coyote, many much nicer than Tecolote beach. There are plans for development and a golf course (did you see the new fences, palapa on the hill?). If a beach is crowded, just move on. There are still lots of beaches etc. left. If you want to see crowds, come on down during Semana Santa...but then again, these are Mexicans enjoying their beaches on their vacations. Caravans do not last long at any one place, but they do scatter dollars down the peninsula helping those who depend on them. Try Tecolote again and it'll be different.

Bob H - 1-30-2006 at 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords
Wow, the subject line made me see what happened at Tecolote...robbery, murder, ?. A caravan at a public beach that has free camping! If they filled the area between restaurants perhaps they were eating there and supporting the Mexican owners. More importantly, turn to your right, away from the restaurants, and the dirt road will take you down the beach where it is not inhabited. Keep going and there are still pristine beaches all around Coyote, many much nicer than Tecolote beach. There are plans for development and a golf course (did you see the new fences, palapa on the hill?). If a beach is crowded, just move on. There are still lots of beaches etc. left. If you want to see crowds, come on down during Semana Santa...but then again, these are Mexicans enjoying their beaches on their vacations. Caravans do not last long at any one place, but they do scatter dollars down the peninsula helping those who depend on them. Try Tecolote again and it'll be different.

Very well said!
Bob H

You should have been there

fdt - 1-30-2006 at 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by jones
As far as I could see there were motor homes, newly arrived and well organized. They took all available parking between the two restaurants. To the organizers and participants of this epic caravan: ARE YOU NUTS!
Eriik.

You should have been there when I first was at El Tecolote, no restaurants, nothing , specialy no paved road, there wasn't even a dirt road from Pichilingue, one had to take the dirt road before Pichilingue to the right past Playa del Tesoro.
As Bob H and Jack Swords agree, let them come, they are very welcome in my country.
As for who you call "she", the secretay of tourism is not outraged, I think she is probably very outraged that all of the work it takes to promote La Paz and the local goverment did nothing to provide a police escort for these visitors to help them get to Playa Tecolote and assist with theire parking needs, thank God M?xico is still a free country and there is no fear of the Harbor Police chasing me or others away.

vandenberg - 1-30-2006 at 10:13 AM

FDT,

Remember those " olden " days very well. Cabbies always frowned when you asked them to take you to Tecolote. Miles of dirt road, but the beach was fabulous. Can't believe that a gringo expects to keep that beach for himself and a few others. And like others said, if you're not afraid of a little hike, there are pristine beaches just a little further south (?),or is that north? Always get confused there :light:

vandenberg - 1-30-2006 at 10:17 AM

BTW, talking of " free " beach, what happened to the rumor going around a few years ago, that the fee for staying on BCS beaches, was going to be $ 11.00 a night, strictly enforced. :light:

jones - 1-30-2006 at 10:29 AM

Wow, is exactly what I said when I looked up and saw this huge line of Motor Homes waiting to park, people running around with walkie talkies, but still, things were well organized, just like Disney World in Florida. I guess it's welcome to the new Americanized Mexico. Sad for me, but not for others----because indeed, it's good for the Mexican economy. But is it? Erik.

fdt - 1-30-2006 at 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
FDT,

Remember those " olden " days very well.

They sure were great. And I personaly think the new days are good to. Was in La Paz last Easter and just as an example, I remember taking my girlfriend (a cachumbiar) to Costa Baja because it was so far, I love what they did with that place that is now a Fiesta Inn, it's beautiful. Let them all come just don't dirty the place PLEASE. :yes:

David K - 1-30-2006 at 10:38 AM

Erik, as one who saw Baja before the pavement... it is sad to see the changes, but totally unreasonable to not expect them.

The only option to keep going to unpopulated beaches is to invest in a 4WD and explore Baja... You will find other beaches that will be as nice or nicer than the one beach you hoped would never change.

My favorite beach, I call Shell Island, may someday be changed (although it is all federal land in the tidal zone)... El Dorado Ranch has bulldozed a new road to the south salt flat and put up a big sign on the north side of Bahia Santa Maria... I would think any buildings would need to be on stilts... But that is done in some areas prone to flooding!

Baja has 3,000 miles of coastline, we will find other beaches!

fdt - 1-30-2006 at 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by jones
just like Disney World in Florida. I guess it's welcome to the new Americanized Mexico. Sad for me, but not for others----because indeed, it's good for the Mexican economy. But is it? Erik.

Don't be sad, just go further and then further and guess what it's more fun going further. No exajeres it's not Disney it's Baja California

Can I go with you?

fdt - 1-30-2006 at 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by David K

Baja has 3,000 miles of coastline, we will find other beaches!

like when you took LdB

David K - 1-30-2006 at 11:02 AM

That would be great Ferna! I have room for 5 now!

bajarich - 1-30-2006 at 11:11 PM

When a large caravan uses a free beach, & cooks for itself, it doesn't seem to me that it is spreading around a lot of money. I hope this isn't the trend in caravans. I wonder how many other free beaches this company (that is leading the caravan) is using. Most other caravans contract with campsites along the way and leave a lot of money in the communities.

Capt. George - 1-31-2006 at 06:22 PM

great point bajarich...they can also carry an awful lot of "supplies" from up north.....Hey big spender, spend a little money here...Watch campers come and go in y little pueblo without spending a centavo...take advantage of all and leave nothing behind but poo-poo and garbage........

whatever, I gotta go catch a fish for supper...........George

surfer jim - 1-31-2006 at 08:46 PM

The caravaners just cought all the fish....so sorry Capt....... :biggrin:

Capt. George - 2-1-2006 at 05:16 AM

not where I am sj...no caravans here.

my heart is broken, I can't listen to their bullhorns!:moon:

adios & buenos dias