BajaNomad - text of Bush's speech

text of Bush's speech

villadelfin - 5-15-2006 at 05:58 PM

Text of President Bush's speech on immigration Monday night:

Good evening. I have asked for a few minutes of your time to discuss a matter of national importance: the reform of America's immigration system.

The issue of immigration stirs intense emotions and in recent weeks, Americans have seen those emotions on display. On the streets of major cities, crowds have rallied in support of those in our country illegally. At our southern border, others have organized to stop illegal immigrants from coming in. Across the country, Americans are trying to reconcile these contrasting images.

And in Washington, the debate over immigration reform has reached a time of decision. Tonight, I will make it clear where I stand, and where I want to lead our country on this vital issue.

We must begin by recognizing the problems with our immigration system. For decades, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders. As a result, many who want to work in our economy have been able to sneak across our border and millions have stayed.

Once here, illegal immigrants live in the shadows of our society. Many use forged documents to get jobs, and that makes it difficult for employers to verify that the workers they hire are legal. Illegal immigration puts pressure on public schools and hospitals, strains state and local budgets, and brings crime to our communities. These are real problems, yet we must remember that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are decent people who work hard, support their families, practice their faith, and lead responsible lives. They are a part of American life but they are beyond the reach and protection of American law.

We are a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals. America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly and fair. So I support comprehensive immigration reform that will accomplish five clear objectives.

First, the United States must secure its borders. This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security. Our objective is straightforward: The border should be open to trade and lawful immigration and shut to illegal immigrants, as well as criminals, drug dealers and terrorists.

I was the governor of a state that has a 1,200-mile border with Mexico. So I know how difficult it is to enforce the border, and how important it is. Since I became president, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent, and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. The men and women of our Border Patrol are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances, and over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home about 6 million people entering America illegally.

Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border. By the end of 2008, we will increase the number of Border Patrol officers by an additional 6,000. When these new agents are deployed, we will have more than doubled the size of the Border Patrol during my presidency.

At the same time, we are launching the most technologically advanced border security initiative in American history. We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors infrared cameras and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings. America has the best technology in the world and we will ensure that the Border Patrol has the technology they need to do their job and secure our border.

Training thousands of new Border Patrol agents and bringing the most advanced technology to the border will take time. Yet the need to secure our border is urgent. So I am announcing several immediate steps to strengthen border enforcement during this period of transition:

One way to help during this transition is to use the National Guard. So in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 Guard members will be deployed to our southern border. The Border Patrol will remain in the lead. The Guard will assist the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems analyzing intelligence installing fences and vehicle barriers building patrol roads and providing training. Guard units will not be involved in direct law enforcement activities that duty will be done by the Border Patrol. This initial commitment of Guard members would last for a period of one year. After that, the number of Guard forces will be reduced as new Border Patrol agents and new technologies come online. It is important for Americans to know that we have enough Guard forces to win the war on terror, respond to natural disasters, and help secure our border.

The United States is not going to militarize the southern border. Mexico is our neighbor, and our friend. We will continue to work cooperatively to improve security on both sides of the border, to confront common problems like drug trafficking and crime, and to reduce illegal immigration.

Another way to help during this period of transition is through state and local law enforcement in our border communities. So we will increase federal funding for state and local authorities assisting the Border Patrol on targeted enforcement missions. And we will give state and local authorities the specialized training they need to help federal officers apprehend and detain illegal immigrants. State and local law enforcement officials are an important resource and they are part of our strategy to secure our border communities.

The steps I have outlined will improve our ability to catch people entering our country illegally. At the same time, we must ensure that every illegal immigrant we catch crossing our southern border is returned home. More than 85 percent of the illegal immigrants we catch crossing the southern border are Mexicans, and most are sent back home within 24 hours. But when we catch illegal immigrants from other countries, it is not as easy to send them home. For many years, the government did not have enough space in our detention facilities to hold them while the legal process unfolded. So most were released back into our society and asked to return for a court date. When the date arrived, the vast majority did not show up. This practice, called "catch and release," is unacceptable and we will end it.

We are taking several important steps to meet this goal. We have expanded the number of beds in our detention facilities, and we will continue to add more. We have expedited the legal process to cut the average deportation time. And we are making it clear to foreign governments that they must accept back their citizens who violate our immigration laws. As a result of these actions, we have ended "catch and release" for illegal immigrants from some countries. And I will ask Congress for additional funding and legal authority, so we can end "catch and release" at the southern border once and for all. When people know that they will be caught and sent home if they enter our country illegally, they will be less likely to try to sneak in.

Second, to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program. The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively, we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across.

Therefore, I support a temporary worker program that would create a legal path for foreign workers to enter our country in an orderly way, for a limited period of time. This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing. Every worker who applies for the program would be required to pass criminal background checks. And temporary workers must return to their home country at the conclusion of their stay.

A temporary worker program would meet the needs of our economy, and it would give honest immigrants a way to provide for their families while respecting the law. A temporary worker program would reduce the appeal of human smugglers and make it less likely that people would risk their lives to cross the border. It would ease the financial burden on state and local governments, by replacing illegal workers with lawful taxpayers. And above all, a temporary worker program would add to our security by making certain we know who is in our country and why they are here.

Third, we need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees, because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility. A key part of that system should be a new identification card for every legal foreign worker. This card should use biometric technology, such as digital fingerprints, to make it tamper-proof. A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place.

Fourth, we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration.

Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation. That middle ground recognizes that there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record. I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law to pay their taxes to learn English and to work in a job for a number of years. People who meet these conditions should be able to apply for citizenship but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law. What I have just described is not amnesty it is a way for those who have broken the law to pay their debt to society, and demonstrate the character that makes a good citizen.

Fifth, we must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one Nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language. English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America. English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a grocery from cleaning offices to running offices from a life of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own. When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize their dreams, they renew our spirit and they add to the unity of America.

Tonight, I want to speak directly to members of the House and the Senate: An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together or none of them will be solved at all. The House has passed an immigration bill. The Senate should act by the end of this month so we can work out the differences between the two bills, and Congress can pass a comprehensive bill for me to sign into law.

America needs to conduct this debate on immigration in a reasoned and respectful tone. Feelings run deep on this issue and as we work it out, all of us need to keep some things in mind. We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone's fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain. We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say.

I know many of you listening tonight have a parent or a grandparent who came here from another country with dreams of a better life. You know what freedom meant to them, and you know that America is a more hopeful country because of their hard work and sacrifice. As President, I have had the opportunity to meet people of many backgrounds, and hear what America means to them. On a visit to Bethesda Naval Hospital, Laura and I met a wounded Marine named Guadalupe Denogean. Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean came to the United States from Mexico when he was a boy. He spent his summers picking crops with his family, and then he volunteered for the United States Marine Corps as soon as he was able. During the liberation of Iraq, Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean was seriously injured. When asked if he had any requests, he made two a promotion for the corporal who helped rescue him and the chance to become an American citizen. And when this brave Marine raised his right hand, and swore an oath to become a citizen of the country he had defended for more than 26 years, I was honored to stand at his side.

We will always be proud to welcome people like Guadalupe Denogean as fellow Americans. Our new immigrants are just what they have always been people willing to risk everything for the dream of freedom. And America remains what she has always been the great hope on the horizon an open door to the future a blessed and promised land. We honor the heritage of all who come here, no matter where they are from, because we trust in our country's genius for making us all Americans, one nation under God. Thank you, and good night.

END

It's about time...

Mexray - 5-15-2006 at 10:36 PM

...the 'leader' of our country came out and made a stand on this issue!

I'll give the President credit for finally going on record about protecting our sovereignty at our borders! I've long thought he wouldn't face this issue till after the mid-term congressional elections...perhaps he wants to get something done on this issue BEFORE this November!

I especially liked his comments about detaining and returning those caught illegally crossing our sovereign borders - no more 'catch and release' - a terrible policy allowed by several past administrations in DC, Rep's and Dem's alike.

It was good to hear the President mention that 'English' is America's language, and immigrants need to learn it in order to succeed and prosper here...It still eats at my craw every time I see Election Ballots printed in languages other than English - American Election documents are for American CITIZENS, and our 'language' is ENGLISH!...eh', how many official documents have you seen the Mexico Government provide in languages other than Spanish???

It's hard to argue against the case that we have to curb the 'demand' for illegal immigrants in our labor pools - AND - curtail the mass illegal crossings of our borders!

OK, my head's not in the sand, and I know many will attempt to gain political 'hay' and oppose the President's proposals - but we as a nation have got to get a 'handle' on this issue...it just continues to get worse as time goes by.

Sharksbaja - 5-15-2006 at 11:55 PM

I hope they print it in Spanish.....

Skeet/Loreto - 5-16-2006 at 03:50 AM

The Presidents speech: Well spoken and Timely:\
For those who respect our country the speech will mean something completely opposite as those who hate Bush and seem to have a strong desire to turn this country into something Like France.
I would suggest that the Bush Haters, America Haters,"Nera Do Wells" pack up and Leave!!

This Great county will survive and go on to even Greater Heights.

Skeet/Loreto

"In God I Trust"

Bruce R Leech - 5-16-2006 at 06:16 AM

Right on Skeet :tumble:

it was real nice of all the do good-er liberals to help the ileagles organize there march on May 1. they alone are responsible for all this happening.

I just love it when they do them selves in. maybe they will go help Iran build nukes next :lol:

Paula - 5-16-2006 at 06:53 AM

Is this really your opinion, Bruce, or just a joke?

Certainly you can do better than just blame the "do-gooder liberals"??

"All this happening"? Maybe something good would come out of this debate if we had some thoughtful, creative, out-of-the-box leadership in the country right now-- both liberal AND conservative.

You can't fix everything with guns and money!!

Bruce R Leech - 5-16-2006 at 07:01 AM

Paula did you see any Conservatives helping with the marches? I did not. there is no passing the blame this time they did it and now they get to live with it. and I thank them very much. :lol:

Don Alley - 5-16-2006 at 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
The Presidents speech: Well spoken and Timely:\
For those who respect our country the speech will mean something completely opposite as those who hate Bush and seem to have a strong desire to turn this country into something Like France.
I would suggest that the Bush Haters, America Haters,"Nera Do Wells" pack up and Leave!!

This Great county will survive and go on to even Greater Heights.

Skeet/Loreto

"In God I Trust"

So, if I don't like Our Great Leader I must hate America, want to turn it into France, etc?

Gee Skeet, maybe you'd be happy living in North Korea....

The big point of that speech, and all the border babble, is that there is an election coming up and the government, Fox News and the talk show blowhards want us to be talking about an issue that tests out toward the right wing...they don't want us talking about Iraq, wiretapping, stagnant wages, budget deficits, Rumsfeld, Rove, indictments, Tom Delay, gasoline prices, where's Osama, etc etc.

Anyway, as far as leaving the country, I guess I already have. Au Revoir, Skeet!

Don Alley - 5-16-2006 at 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
Paula did you see any Conservatives helping with the marches? I did not. there is no passing the blame this time they did it and now they get to live with it. and I thank them very much. :lol:

The marches were a direct result of, and response to, legislation passed in the US House of Representatives by a conservative majority.

Partly as a result of the march, that legislation died in the Senate.

So I guess you guys can chortle about how much the marches helped your point of view, and the marchers can chortle about how they successfully defeated some piece of legislation.

Personally, I've avoided marches and demonstrations since the sixties. I think they're all silly and tend to be self defeating, unless there are some good rock bands. And there haven't been any good bands since the sixties. I guess that's why I don't demonstrate anymore. Besides, Skeet ran me out of the country. :lol:

Bajaboy - 5-16-2006 at 07:25 AM

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Let's see, what Mr. Bush proposes to spend on border security is what the US will spend in just two weeks in Iraq. It's not just Democrats that think Mr. Bush is doing a poor job. The last poll I saw put Mr. Bush's approval rating somewhere near 35%. To me, that suggests that the majority of the US public does not approve.

If I didn't care about our Country, I would give a rat's ass about Bush. He's really screwed this place up but I do agree with most of his speech last night. Now let's just see if he was pandering....

Zac

[Edited on 5-16-2006 by Bajaboy]

David K - 5-16-2006 at 07:34 AM

The elementary school kids I saw marching in our streets with foreign flags where NOT the result of any conservative actions. These little minds full of mush were directed to participate in this anti-national garbage by their socialist-liberal trainers (teachers?) and did so on the International day of world socialism (May 1).

High school kids also were marching on several days, mostly to get out of doing real schoolwork. They were just stupid and when interviewed had little knowledge as to why they were out there.

School kids in this country need to learn U.S. history and American patriotism... In Mexico they can carry Mexican flags and speak Spanish...

Bruce R Leech - 5-16-2006 at 08:13 AM

thank you David K. :bounce:

Reference David's comments-----

Barry A. - 5-16-2006 at 08:43 AM

I offer the following:

What it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated
that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this
out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina,
Kansas, USA. It was taken from the original document on file
at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in
Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.

8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS -1895

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no
modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph.
4. What are the principal parts of a verb?? Give principal
parts of "lie," "play," and "run."
5. Define case; Illustrate each case.
6. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of
punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show
therein that you understand the practical use of the rules
of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1:25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide.?
How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at
50cts/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4 District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the
necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per
month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at
7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft.
long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10
percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the
distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the
Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell,
Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607,
1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic,
orthography, etymology, syllabication.
2. What are elementary sounds?? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each:
Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.'?
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.'? Name
two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. ?Illustrate
each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with
a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the
following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card,
ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site,
sight, fane,
fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate
pronunciation by
use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa,
Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez,
Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of
each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the
same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean
returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the
inclination of the earth.

Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a
whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

Also shows you how poor our education system has become...
and, NO I don't have the answers to this test!

this left me wondering how I ever made it out of 6th grade
not even to mention 8th.... good grief, a college graduate
who is danged near illiterate.

Packoderm - 5-16-2006 at 08:50 AM

To be fair about your test, you'd have to add in the same number of high tech related questions. We still know a lot of stuff. We just had to forego some of the old stuff to make room for the new stuff (which really might be more important in the scheme of things). A stanza never helped get a space shuttle off the ground.

Packo----

Barry A. - 5-16-2006 at 08:52 AM

----point well taken.

villadelfin - 5-16-2006 at 09:04 AM

Quote:

Every worker who applies for the program would be required to pass criminal background checks.

Excerpt from transcript of speech--This is something I had not discerned before. Will baja citizens seeking entry into the US be required to bring a note from home? How the h will this be accomplished?

Skeet/Loreto - 5-16-2006 at 09:44 AM

Don: I too left the Good ole USA in 1968,escaping from the Drugs, Nudity,Filth,The lack of Respect, Morals, "If it feels Good, Just Do it" attitude. but I did not give up on My country!!!
I saw the changes in the Alduts and their children that was hard to take, being a Veteran of the Korea War, Fighting for my country, to go to San Francisco especially there and have my Wife flaxhed three times from the Bart Station to the Theater.
The lack of manners, morals, repect turned me off. The huge increase in the use of Drugs! The lack of Disapline in the Schools and the Community!

I was a Harry Truman Demorcat and stayed a Demorcat until Lyndon Baines Johnson became President and brought on the EOA. I observed first hand the effects of "Giving" money away to "Change the Social Order".

I voted for Kennedy and still think he Was a Good President. After that the Moral fiber of this Great county started downhill. The Dr. Spock teachings, the Take over of our Universities by the "Liberals" most of who had only learned about Life from a Book.

I found in the Mexican people, Happiness, Honor, Truth ,even when they lived in a Cardboard Shack.
Living each Day and not concerned about Tommorow!

The hate, the Protests, the Attempt to bring this country to its Knees, will not Happen through HATE but will survie by Love, Faith, and the respect of each other!!

It is Sad that this country is Divided. The attempts to Divide will fail as time goes by because of the Fact that most of the People have Faith!!

Skeet/Loreto
Aka Anon The Preacher

"In God I Trust"

The Sculpin - 5-16-2006 at 09:49 AM

Hey Skeeters, you done fell for the trap! This issue isn't as black and white as some would like to portray it. The importance of yesterdays speech was that the top law enforcement official in the land admitted there was a problem, and that the country needs to address it! The last time that happened, Reagan was president, and by many accounts, he screwed it up! Bush Sr, Clinton, and Bush Jr did nothing in between. I very rarely agree with how Bush executes his policies, and I have no reason to believe that he'll get it right this time, but even a blind dog will find a bone! So kudos to Bush for framing the debate, so let's have a debate!! What I fear is that the White House will unilaterally decide what's best, as it has in the past, and will really screw it up!

Regardless, we only have 2 more years of this mess, and then we can complain about the new one......

Secure the Border, Secure the Border,

MrBillM - 5-16-2006 at 10:08 AM

Secure the Border.

I agree with the predominant Conservative position, as written by the House, that the NUMBER ONE objective should be to STOP the bleeding. Do whatever it takes to slow or stop the incoming flow. We don't need COMPREHENSIVE immigration reform at this time. Using the Liberal's own logic (what a joke). The eleven or twelve million (or whatever) already here aren't going anywhere. We aren't going to launch any big roundups until the Congress passes some sort of legislation, so concentrate on getting the situation under control.

Looking at Don's Laundry list of things the Republican's don't want Voters thinking about :

...they don't want us talking about Iraq, wiretapping, stagnant wages, budget deficits, Rumsfeld, Rove, indictments, Tom Delay, gasoline prices, where's Osama, etc etc.
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ONLY Gasoline prices (number one) and Iraq are of any concern. We'd love to have the "Wiretapping" as a predominant issue since EVERY SINGLE Poll shows a significant majority agreeing with the Administration. The remainder rank LOW anytime the question is put to the voters.

border?

pacificobob - 5-16-2006 at 10:43 AM

look forward 30 years......do you still see a border as we now know it....like it or not the nature of life on on this spanish speaking continent will change. as for the presidents speach...he is so for down in the polls he has become desperate to embrace any issue in that will draw attention away from his war. remember this is a man who has dicked up everything he has ever done and believes god wants him to be president. by the way...how does one visually identify a consertive or liberal organizier of a ralley?

[Edited on 5-16-2006 by pacificobob]

Not too sure about the Ralley

MrBillM - 5-16-2006 at 11:49 AM

But, I would assume you could figure out the political bent of someone organizing a Rally by the objectives promoted in that Rally.

Thankfully, GWB's numbers have DROPPED again recently. I say that because the current drop is shown to have been CONSERVATIVE defections. That got his (and the GOP's) attention. Perhaps now, we'll see a return to the Right's Roots.

"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition"

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[Edited on 5-17-2006 by BajaNomad]

Skeet/Loreto - 5-16-2006 at 12:18 PM

Doug: It seems that the Off Topic Forum has been moved to the General Discussion :

As this is a Political and Non- Political I think it best for me to withdraw from this discussion as it gets "My Dander Up!!"
Notice how all the regular Off-Topic moved over to this discussion?
I cured my Addiction once, I do not want to take a second Dose of that Medicine.

Maybe some day we can all have a big Political Party Gathering in Loreto and discuss the future of the Good Ole USA , eyeball to eyeball.

Skeet/Loreto
Anon The Preacher
Skeeter Peter
SkeetTexas
"In God I Trust"

Skeet/Loreto - 5-16-2006 at 12:27 PM

To all of you Great Posters-Good and Bad!
Tommorow is my 75th
Unofficial count shows that I placed 2nd there fore will be elected as an Alderman of Timber Creek Canyon{class B Munciplity near amarillo Texas.
I am attending a Special "Make a Wish" Party on Saturday where I will Judge the "Best Calf Fries'.
I am Training a new "Super Horse Colt' once a Day.
I am attending church on sunday.
I start Classes in Sept. at WTA&M for my Masters in Criminal Justice .
And in between all those Activites I have to take care of my Beautifull young wife and Keep the Barn Clean!!

About some of you coming by and helping me Shovel Poop and teach me how to Pass the GRE Test??

Skeet/Loreto

"Faith, Hope and Charity

"In God I Trust"

Cincodemayo - 5-16-2006 at 12:30 PM

If anyone here really wants to be in the know about the Border Patrol and what a joke our immigration process is read Michelle Malkin's book, INVASION and you will get the clear picture.
What's wrong with a militarized border anyway?? Every other freakin country has it except Canada and they aren't even armed...they run when there is a crisis and close the border....sounds kinda like what France's policy is!

Bruce R Leech - 5-16-2006 at 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cincodemayo
If anyone here really wants to be in the know about the Border Patrol and what a joke our immigration process is read Michelle Malkin's book, INVASION and you will get the clear picture.
What's wrong with a militarized border anyway?? Every other freakin country has it except Canada and they aren't even armed...they run when there is a crisis and close the border....sounds kinda like what France's policy is!

good points Cincodemayo

Cincodemayo - 5-16-2006 at 02:53 PM

Bruce...The book would blow you away. The 9-11 perps were aided by illegals on how to obtain driver's licenses w/o documentation and the next group of terrorists have already come across with dirty bombs. All our homeland security is an absolute joke. A guy named Angel Recindez was going back and forth across the border and getting caught, deported, serving time, deported, back across....he ended up murdering over 9 people...in and out of Immigration hands, let him loose again and he murdered 4 more before they got their crap together and now he's getting 3 squares a day on death row. His rap sheet was over 5 pages long. One hand has NO clue what the other is doing in our Border Patrol, Immigration, or Homeland Security. They have a computer system now costing over 80 million taxpayer dollars that STILL doesn't work or they don't know how to use it! Bushes new security measures are just a coverup to appease the masses until they legalize the 12 million illegals...Same BS different day. Again, read the book....
INVASION by Michelle Malkin. Should be required reading by CONgress and the Senate.

Packoderm - 5-16-2006 at 04:55 PM

Unless something substantial actually materializes from Bush's recent rhetoric, I'm going to have to believe that as far as the current administration is concerned, homeland security is worth surrendering the American values of freedom; however, it does not seem to be worth giving up cheap labor from those who sneak across the border.

B.S.

MrBillM - 5-16-2006 at 08:06 PM

I just finished watching Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Greta Van Sustical's show. She asked him what penalties an employer would be subject to if he were found to have KNOWINGLY hired an illegal alien. MushMouth talked and talked and NEVER answered the question. Greta gave it a second try, rewording the same question and he still didn't answer it, just mouthed more double-speak. No wonder the Conservatives are bailing on the Administration.

God, I'm glad that GWB gave up on nominating him for a Supreme Court Justice.

GOOD NEWS !

MrBillM - 5-17-2006 at 11:05 AM

Los Angeles Times Front Page Lead Headline:

"House GOP Fail to Warm to Bush Border Policy" .

The House Republican leaders are making it clear that they still stand by the House version of the Immigration Bill. No matter what the Senate does, it is unlikely that the House will move in that direction. What that probably means is that my previous prediction that NO Immigration Bill will be passed this year is more likely to be correct. NO Bill is better than one like the Senate is debating.

Cincodemayo - 5-17-2006 at 11:55 AM

One of my posts hit the perverbial nail on the head about the political sitch in Mexico at the moment and it seems to get worse daily.

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- As presidential elections near, many Mexicans fear the country is teetering on the edge of chaos -- a perception that could hurt the ruling National Action Party and benefit Mexico's once-powerful Institutional Revolutionary Party.

Some blame President Vicente Fox for a weak government. Others say rivals are instigating the violence to create that impression, hoping to hurt National Action candidate Felipe Calderon, who has a slight lead in recent polls.

A poll published Friday in the Excelsior newspaper found 50 percent of respondents feared the government was on the brink of losing control. The polling company Parametria conducted face-to-face interviews at 1,000 homes across Mexico. The poll had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The conflicts are "a warning sign," said Yamel Nares, Parametria's research director.

Security is the top concern for Mexicans, and Fox has struggled to reform Mexico's notoriously corrupt police. Meanwhile, drug-related bloodshed has accelerated, with some cities seeing killings almost daily.

In April, suspected drug lords posted the heads of two police officers on a wall outside a government building where four drug traffickers died in a January 27 shootout with officers in the Pacific resort of Acapulco.