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AAA 1927 MAP *and* added 1962 Baja Maps plus the 1905 Mining Map!

David K - 5-22-2006 at 07:58 PM

The 'road' went as far as El Rosario, or at least the road log that went with these three maps...

Map 1: San Diego to Ensenada








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David K - 5-22-2006 at 07:59 PM

Map 2: Ensenada to San Antonio del Mar (Johnson Ranch)



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rpleger - 5-22-2006 at 08:00 PM

?Where do you find this stuff?

b-tchen

David K - 5-22-2006 at 08:01 PM

Map 3: Johnson Ranch to 'almost' El Rosario...



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David K - 5-22-2006 at 08:02 PM

You notice part of the San Quintin railroad is shown on the map leading east-northeast from the Old Mill...

David K - 5-22-2006 at 08:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rpleger
?Where do you find this stuff?

b-tchen


Thanks Richard!

Like Neal Johns (who is four wheeling in Australia), I collect Baja publications... The biggest collector is 'Rockman' who sells or trades off his list of Baja publications.

I found thie 1927 auto club reprint on the Internet... You should read the 9 page road log that goes with these maps!

David----

Barry A. - 5-22-2006 at 08:25 PM

-----actually, the resolution is great just as you posted it.

This is fantastic stuff, David. I love the photo, as well as the maps.

Good work---------you absolutely amaze me!!!

Bruce R Leech - 5-22-2006 at 08:36 PM

this is really fun stuff David. thanks

Sharksbaja - 5-22-2006 at 08:52 PM

Very cool! How big were those original maps David?

JESSE - 5-22-2006 at 09:03 PM

Great pics David!!!

David K - 5-22-2006 at 10:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Very cool! How big were those original maps David?


The three maps are on one page of the booklette (8 1/2" X 11") side by side.

Here's a part of a 1905 Baja mining map I have...




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Bob H - 5-22-2006 at 10:36 PM

David, this is great stuff. Thanks for sharing this.

David K - 3-24-2008 at 08:11 PM

Here is an old photo of the flour mill warehouse (Old Mill) at San Quintin, where the railroad began... It was going to near Yuma, just as the new planned railroad from Punta Colonet will do.

Towns of Baja.jpg - 45kB

David K - 9-9-2018 at 07:29 AM

Bump from 12 years ago...

advrider - 9-9-2018 at 07:47 AM

Thanks for bumping it,very cool maps!

John Harper - 9-12-2018 at 11:59 AM

Wow, what a find! Thanks, David, great job again!

John

JZ - 9-12-2018 at 12:13 PM

Would love to do a trip during that time. But with the tech we have today.

gueribo - 9-12-2018 at 09:14 PM

Great thread. Thanks.

The 1962 Auto Club Baja Map

David K - 9-13-2018 at 08:28 AM

This was close to what the "Highway 1" was like for my family in 1966. The pavement south ended north of Colonet and did not begin again until about 100 miles north of La Paz. It ended again about 10 miles south of La Paz with grading for the future highway not yet reaching Los Barriles. The main road south of Mulegé went through Comondú, not Loreto.

South of San Vicente, the wide, graded roads continued south of the pavement end to San Quintin area and not again until a section from Santa Rosalia to Mulegé. A long, miserable, washboard grading started again by Pozo Grande, through Constitución, to the pavement start, 100 miles from La Paz.

The road south to Todos Santos was graded. All the rest of the main road to Cabo or East Cape to Cabo was a single lane wide pair of ruts (unimproved dirt road)!

New link: https://octopup.org/img/media/maps/baja/1962--Baja-Californi...

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More of the 1905 Mining Map...

David K - 9-14-2018 at 08:39 AM

New link:

https://octopup.org/img/media/maps/baja/h/1905--Baja-Califor...



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fishbuck - 9-14-2018 at 10:54 AM

What was Johnson Ranch?

David K - 9-14-2018 at 05:35 PM

A big ranch made by the same family that created Rancho Meling in the mountains. It is still there and a descendant joined Baja Nomad even.

fishbuck - 9-14-2018 at 05:57 PM

Cool:coolup:
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
A big ranch made by the same family that created Rancho Meling in the mountains. It is still there and a descendant joined Baja Nomad even.

David K - 9-14-2018 at 06:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Cool:coolup:
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
A big ranch made by the same family that created Rancho Meling in the mountains. It is still there and a descendant joined Baja Nomad even.


I wrote about the Johnson's and their ranches in a recent Baja Bound article... Here that is: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/san_pedr...

My other articles are in the link (below in my signature): https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

bajaric - 9-19-2018 at 08:56 AM

For you Baja history buffs here is a little info I dug up. The man that drew the mining map pictured above, Richard Stephens, worked as a surveyor for the International Company (later called the Mexican Land and Colonization Company) at the turn of the century. He was a Canadian Engineer. Stephens drew the original plot map for the City of Ensenada. Will attempt to attach an image of it but if it does not show you can Google it under Map of Colony Carlos Pacheco. (Or maybe DK can post it happy birthday by the way) You can see his name on the bottom of the plot map. He laid out the streets of Ensenada that are still in use today. A history of the colonization of Ensenada that references Mr Stephens is here:

https://irsc.sdsu.edu/docs/pubs/Pinera_Ensenada.pdf

And a link to the Ensenada plot map is here:

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fp1.liveau...

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David K - 9-19-2018 at 02:27 PM

Great find 'bajaric'... Thank you for sharing those links!
There is some fun reading in that one pdf!

Mikey47 - 11-23-2018 at 06:20 PM

:cool:

Mikey47 - 11-23-2018 at 06:26 PM

Hi David. Great maps. I too have the 1963 “Sportsman” map as some call it. How were you able to date it as mine has no dates at least i can find. Michael

David K - 11-23-2018 at 06:42 PM

Hi Mickey, we have decoded the old AAA dating system and there is actually a thread here on Nomad that explains it... I will dig it up later for you.

EDIT:
On the bottom of the map's cover side is a code:
C-1268

The center two numbers are reversed so 26 = 62 (1962)
The first number is the day (1) and the last number is the month (8) or August.

So the map is dated Aug. 1, 1962.

The thread on the AAA map codes with more old maps in it is from 2015: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=79827

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ehall - 11-24-2018 at 05:03 AM

Cool maps . Interesting Tiajuana was spelled Tia Juana.

BajaBlanca - 11-24-2018 at 07:48 AM

La Bocana is not even in existence in the older maps you have! That always astounds me.

This is a wonderful thread...the amount of growth is mind-boggling.

David K - 11-24-2018 at 09:55 AM

La Bocana didn't exist way far back in time, plus in the 50s and 60s, the Auto Club did not do all the roads for their small road log they made then. They may not have even driven beyond Punta Abreojos. As you can see on the '62 map, only El Coyote (Campo Rene now) is shown as populated and not Punta Abreojos where the road is shown as ending. We know from Howard Gulick's great maps and road logs of 1956-1962 that there was indeed a road beyond Punta Abreojos and populated places, including La Bocana...



Blanca, here is the 1955 auto club map and it seems the road, coast data in your area is identical to what they used in 1962...



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fishbuck - 11-25-2018 at 09:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is an old photo of the flour mill warehouse (Old Mill) at San Quintin, where the railroad began... It was going to near Yuma, just as the new planned railroad from Punta Colonet will do.

So cool.

David K - 1-23-2019 at 11:31 PM

Yep... maps are windows to the past!

pacificobob - 8-3-2020 at 04:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Cool maps . Interesting Tiajuana was spelled Tia Juana.


i would have bet it was spelled Tijuana