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gas report dec 8th...

Bob and Susan - 12-9-2006 at 06:06 AM

gas report...fri dec 8th

all stations have gas...
to El Rosario no problems at all both gas and deisel

deisel is different...past El Rosario

Villa Jesus Maria NO DEISEL
Guerrero Negro NO DESIEL

Vizcano HAS DEISEL!!!

San Ignacio NO DESIEL
Santa Rosalia NO DESIEL

Mulege HAS DESIEL!!!

The guy in Mulege says they have plenty.

rts551 - 12-9-2006 at 07:35 AM

Thanks Bob and Susan

Looks like we had better stay full of diesel and carry 5 gal extra.

Phil S - 12-9-2006 at 09:17 AM

Wendy & I can vouch for B&S's report. WE got caught with our diesel Dodge there. I usually stop at Viszcano to fill up after full tank at Loreto, but decided to go on to Guerro Negro to fill up after noticing what I thought were signs on the aprons which keep you from pulling into the pumps & meaning out of diesel or gas. When got to G.N. on highway past military camp attendant says NO DIESEL (we didn't have enought to make it to El Rosario, and Santa Maria according to attendant had a vehicle run into the diesel pump putting diesel out of the picture for some time. Attendant said no diesel in town station either. So we were stumped. So we went into town anyway & met the local police officers there. I think we counted six officers we had conversations with by time we paid our fine.
Watch out on the paved blvd going through town. Stop signs are way on the edge of the very wide street. I got stopped for running stop sign, speeding?????? and something else I never could figure out what it was.
(they wouldn't give me a copy of the ticket, though there is the original and one copy) My spanish sucks, and no one seemed to speak any english (I know, it's not my their problem, but mine) Much arguing, and they took us to the "little jail house" where I explained again that I wasn't speeding nor did I run a stop sign. All to no avail. I mentioned the word Consulate in T.J. and that got a reaction (not good enough to waive the fine which was $100.00) Then mentioned Tourismo officina in Mexico City and wanted to make phone call. That didn't work either. He eventually (they guy behind the desk) reduced fine to $50.00 and I paid it, and wished them Felize Navidad & walked briskly to the pickup and headed to Malaremo R.V. park & restaurante, as we are Vagabundo del Mar members, and so stopped there, as I know they speak English there (sort of) Told them my story, and asked if he knew of anyone who had diesel stored in a drum somewhere. (oh yes. I stopped & talked with (yeah talked is a joke when I say it) two different diesel truck drivers to see if I could syphon some diesel & pay them "anything". No luck. Felt sorry for me, but wouldn't budge. Anyway the fellow at Maleremo's made a couple phone calls, then said "Viszcano station says they have plenty of diesel?????? About an hours drive back south. What does one do??????? One goes knowing if it is closed to diesel we wouldn't have enough to get back to G.N. He said NO PROBLEMA. And by the way. He needed a part for his transmission and would I mind stopping at the partes tienda across the street since I'd be there and pick it up. And gave me $100.00 peso's. By then I'd have picked up a greased pig if he'd asked, considering his helping me out.
Made the drive. Got the diesel & part returned to G.N. thanked him & offered him a tip & he said no, returing the part was enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, turns out the problem with the diesel supply was the barge couldn't get to Santa Rosalia because of the Sea of Cortez was too rough to make delivery.
Oh yes. And the attendant at the downtown station being a very nice young fellow who spoke o.k. inglish says might be several days before delivery is made to G.N. If we'd like, we could stay in his spare bedroom. What a nice offer. Everyone was so gracious that day, except for the Policia. Oh well. When in Baja "sway with the wind". We did, and we are home now in Oregon and everything worked out o.k. Took about 20 minutes to get through the T.J. immigration line. Was a "fast crawl" getting through there. They were really passing through the cars. Our stop was maybe 5 minutes at the most as he asked what did you buy while in Baja? Showed him our passports, and a wave on. That was fast for being on a Friday and about 9 a.m. No vendors other than the coffee & juices for sale folks who walked the route.

FUELING UP

vacaenbaja - 12-9-2006 at 11:50 AM

Back in the old days when ever we traveled south the supply and quality of gas was such that you never passed up an opportinity to top off once passed El Rosario.Even if you had a half or 3/4 tankfull. Fuel availabilty was and still is sketchy
between El; Rosario and points south. I drive a diesel and on
my last trip down to Asuncion I noticed the same drill as in times passed. As I passed Villa Jesus Maria, they had Diesel.
I did not need any as I have a 45 gallon tank and had just toped off at El Rosario. I get about 15 miles per gallon loaded
down. But I stopped to check to show my friend about fuel availability and of course the Tamles. Boy a number of eateries have sprung up on the place wher Carmen used to have a monopoly. Anyway V Jesus Maria had diesel and is
a small town. I told my friend watch G N roadside will have none and the same for the other stations in town.
As we were headed to Asuncion, I was counting on a fill up
at Viscaino, which is a large station frequented by many bigrigs. Thank goodness they had diesel. I broke my old rule.
Had I topped off at Villa Jesus Maria, I would have been prepared for the worst should Viscaino had been dry. When traveling in baja it is always good to have more than enough
fuel and water. Extra large or auxillery fuel tanks can add a
cetain amount of piece of mind and time saved if fuel lines are large.

BajaNomad - 12-9-2006 at 12:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Phil S
turns out the problem with the diesel supply was the barge couldn't get to Santa Rosalia because of the Sea of Cortez was too rough to make delivery.
Out of my own curiosity on what they do....

I thought all the Pemex fuel (gas, diesel) on the peninsula was transported from either La Paz or Rosarito/Ensenada bulk plants. I am not aware of any transport via barge through Santa Rosalia.

Anyone have further information on this?

Thanks,
--
Doug

Iflyfish - 12-9-2006 at 04:26 PM

Thanks, really appreciate the gas updates.

Iflyfish

Bob and Susan - 12-9-2006 at 04:31 PM

i'm traveling up tomorrow sunday 12/10

i'll give a report when i get "back to WORK":mad:monday

Iflyfish - 12-9-2006 at 08:52 PM

Bob and Susan
You said "i'll give a report when i get "back to WORK"monday".

I am considering reporting this post. How insensitive to use words like "going back" and "WORK" on this site. And you used them in the same sentance. Some of us are very sensitive to these words.

I recall once when I had to .........................oh, never mind.

Iflyfishwhennotgivingcraptothosenotyetretired

dean miller - 12-9-2006 at 10:45 PM

I have had two experiences when the fuel dried up in Baja.

The last one was about 10-12 years ago. It was a bad scene. We were told there was no gas south of GN. Cars were driving in the camp grounds asking for gas, in Santa Rosalia American & Canadian Cars, Campers, Vans, RVs and every thing else was lined up and camping on the highway around the turn and into the city. It was a sight that will long be remembered by me and I am certain by those who sat and camped in the street for 3 days in the blowing wind.

A that time I was informed that the fuel came on a barge from the mainland to Santa Rosalia. I recall at that time the wind was extremely strong and blew day and night for about a week.

So perhaps fuel does come from the mainland???

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Capt. George - 12-10-2006 at 03:36 AM

w,w,w,w,w,,wor, wor, wor, wor, work?

the four letters that provoke nightmares........

the captain

shari - 12-10-2006 at 10:01 AM

Yep all our fuel south of Guerrero Negro comes from the mainland...so guess what....lero leeeeero...we have diesel here in Asuncion!!! I convinced our local gas guy to always have a barrel for the cruisers and visitors in their deisel trucks. I would like to reming all Nomads going through Guerrero Negro, if you have any questions or problems, contact our special correspondent Sirena to help you out....her cell is 044-615-104-1328....she knows everybody and can help you out with any problems plus show you where to shop and play!

Iflyfish - 12-10-2006 at 11:48 AM

Shari

Good one!!

Iflyfish

LarryK - 12-10-2006 at 01:05 PM

Question, It is my understanding that all fuel from El Rosario north is from the states, everything south is Mexican gas. Can anybody confirm this?

Minnow - 12-10-2006 at 03:20 PM

The wife says Definately Gas comes from Mainland to Sta. Rosalia on a boat. As a matter of fact the capt. of the boat is a family friend.

synch - 12-11-2006 at 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Phil S
...turns out the problem with the diesel supply was the barge couldn't get to Santa Rosalia because of the Sea of Cortez was too rough to make delivery.



Sounds a bit fishy to me ...

David K - 12-11-2006 at 10:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LarryK
Question, It is my understanding that all fuel from El Rosario north is from the states, everything south is Mexican gas. Can anybody confirm this?


Antonio told me (a while ago) that only Premium came from U.S. side... at the northern Baja Pemexs... Of course that is what THEY told him!

PEMEX is government controlled, the stations are private businesses, but highly controlled by Pemex... ie. the government... in other words socialism... It's no wonder so many Pemex stations cheat as they aren't allowed to have the free market set the gas price, to sell tires, do mechanical work, anything to make a fair profit. Fortunately, El Rosario's owner has the Baja Cactus Motel to help keep the station operating without cheating, as always.

CShirk - 12-11-2006 at 11:53 AM

any news on V. Jesus Maria?

Bob and Susan - 12-11-2006 at 01:54 PM

sunday plenty of gas just no diesel

cabobaja - 12-14-2006 at 01:09 PM

All gas stations closed in Cabo this morning. Left Cabo at 12:30pm, all still closed.

backninedan - 12-14-2006 at 05:13 PM

No gas in Guerrero Negro this afternoon. They are saying later today or tomorrow. We shall see.

Los Barriles Pemex

bajadave1 - 12-15-2006 at 05:43 AM

No gas in Los Barriles for four or five days now.

:?::?::?:

backninedan - 12-15-2006 at 05:18 PM

No gas in Guerro Negro again. After waiting two hours for the gas truck to arrive and pump, I was able to get gas in Mulege at approx. 2 this afternoon. There were 40 or 50 cars waiting to gas up. I got back home here in Loreto about 4 this afternoon and they were pumping gas at that time. Carry gas cans.

Capt. George - 12-16-2006 at 03:43 AM

backninedan

have not noticed you on here for quite some time, or is it me??

ya know we got a place in Alaska now..e me gpurrm@hotmail.com

george

backninedan - 12-16-2006 at 09:43 AM

It has been a while, 6 years or so. I started gathering info prior to my move to Loreto and have been here three years now. Its still a good place to pick up odds and ends and put in an occasional post.

BajaNomad - 12-16-2006 at 09:47 AM

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