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3 held after pot cache seized at secret airstrip

Anonymous - 3-19-2004 at 11:05 PM

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20040317-9...

By Anna Cearley
March 17, 2004

TIJUANA ? Federal agents detained three people and confiscated 1,724 pounds of marijuana shortly after a small plane landed on a hidden airstrip south of Ensenada, authorities said.

The Cessna was detected by radar as it approached the San Quint?n Valley. Agents with Mexico's Federal Agency of Investigations arrived at the site soon after the plane landed Friday morning and arrested three suspects: Adri?n Javier Ram?rez, Levit Serrano V?zquez and Juan Pablo Fr?as.

Authorities described the landing area as a rural zone about three hours south of Ensenada. Apparently the drugs already had been unloaded from the plane and were found in an old Ford pickup. They were in 470 packets, covered in plastic tape.

Baja California's top federal prosecutor said Monday that he didn't know which drug trafficking group was responsible for the shipment.

The Arellano F?lix cartel is the primary drug trafficking group in Baja California, but it has been weakened by the arrests and deaths of its top leaders. Other cartels have been muscling onto the Arellanos' turf in recent years.

"All we know is simply that an important quantity of drugs was confiscated," said Antonio Mendoza Ch?vez, who recently was named to head the Baja California division of the Federal Attorney General's Office.

Over the past year, federal agents have confiscated drugs linked to at least two other planes that landed on secret airstrips on the outskirts of Mexicali, but no immediate arrests were made in those cases.

Potpourri

hyme7of9 - 3-22-2004 at 01:13 PM

Now the cops will won't run out and have to do another bust for a long time. Hyme

Dave - 3-22-2004 at 03:31 PM

Most definitely NOT one of the cartels. They pay for protection.

what losers.....the serious potters use boats!

capt. mike - 3-23-2004 at 06:50 AM

now they'll be more GD u.s. pressure to close remote dirt strips by getting the mex feds to raise yearly license fees or close and ditch perfectly good recreational and ranch strips. what a bunch of BS. thx loser dip sh*t smugglers.

Dave - 3-23-2004 at 12:32 PM

Mike, I believe you should redirect your anger toward those truly responsible:

AMERICANS who use illegal drugs.

The smugglers are simply servicing their clients and without the demand, would be out of business.

JESSE - 3-23-2004 at 02:44 PM

600 kilos of pot, and they where using an airplane, my sources say its a rather small plane, because the big boys use mainly modified Airkings to bring their load up.

600 kilos of pot is nothing, any small to medium dealer moves that every 15 days.

Moving the goods

academicanarchist - 3-24-2004 at 04:30 PM

They also truck it to the border region, and have different ways to get it across including tunnels built under the border fence. I have a friend with family in the Rio Grande Valley, who once identified all of his relatives involved in getting drugs across the border. Dave is right when he says that the blame lies with the demand.

Pot

Margie - 5-30-2004 at 10:06 PM

Legalize and regulate it, take it out of the hands of the criminals.

Set up treatment and educational programs throughout the USA and Mexico.

Come up with a cash crop for the farmers who harvest the coca and subsidize them.

Revise and impose stiff penalities for smugglars and dealers of heroin, cocaine and meth.

Anyways, the "best quality" grass is coming in from Canada, not Mexico.

This little bit of grass was nothing, and keep in mind it's right before elections, the streets get cleaned, a new face of paint on everything, and a few small time busts, typical.


Boats and pot

Taco de Baja - 5-31-2004 at 08:21 AM

Several years ago a friend was hiking the costal bluffs close to the beach around Punta Blanca on the pacific and stumbled upon 2 kilos of pot wrapped in plastic, a jacket and a machine gun with a bullet jammed in the ejection port :o

.....We don't know what went down...but probably not good for someone. Looks like someone was guarding the pot, something made him try to shoot the gun, which jammed, he ran off, dropped the gun, continued running, threw off off his jacket, and ran off into the desert....

Once my friend stopped his heart from racing and determined that the stuff had been there for at least a while, based on the small fuzz of rust on the gun...he decided the best corse of action was to bury everything, which he did.

Where ?

jrbaja - 5-31-2004 at 11:08 AM

Where ?:lol:

DOPE

Skeet/Loreto - 5-31-2004 at 04:20 PM


ANY ONE CAUGHT USING DOPE TO BE DEPORTED TO A LARGE PRIVATELY RUN JAIL IN IRAG

SHUTDOWN ALL DRUG RELATED CLINICS

SEND ALL ADDICTS BACK TO THEIR PARENTS

FIRE AND DEPORT ALL COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY PERSONNEL CAUGHT USING DRUGS

DEPORT ALL PARENTS WHO GIVE THEIR CHILDREN DRUGS, TO ABOVE JAILS

Several years ago 2 Pangas approaching the coast Line above San Nicolas were "Blown out of the Water for Firing back at the helicopter trying to stop them from hauling DOPE across from the Mainland"
"No Quarter for the Hauler/Seller" put them away for Life."It is Cheaper in the Long run.

Skeet/Loreto

"In God I Trust"

surfer jim - 5-31-2004 at 04:51 PM

How about that....I was planning a "surf trip" to Punta Blanca.....:bounce:...maybe JR knows how to get there?;D

Dave - 5-31-2004 at 07:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto

ANY ONE CAUGHT USING DOPE TO BE DEPORTED TO A LARGE PRIVATELY RUN JAIL IN IRAG



Shooting them on sight would be cheaper.:biggrin:

Draconian measures work IF they are uniformly enforced. That's how China solved its opium problem.

Anonymous - 5-31-2004 at 08:43 PM

Sounds a little suspisious on the amount, 1700 pounds of cargo would put a small aircraft over weigth unless it only carriered a couple gallons of fuel. Sounds to me, some officiels are pumping...

Drug Addiction

Margie - 5-31-2004 at 10:00 PM

The issue of addiction is hardly black and white, and there are no simple solutions, such as shooting someone or sending them back to their parents if they are addicts.

Drug addiction is an illness, like alcoholism.

Perhaps before making hasty judgements, it would behoove all of us to study the reasons behind the addictive personality and the schools of thought regarding treatment and rehabilitation.

Here are some basic ideologies to get you started:


Chemical Dependency Research Working Group:
Introduction to Neuroscience and Theories of Addiction

http://cdrwq.8k.com/mono2-2htm

Drug Addiction As A Psychobiological Process by Michael A. Bozarth:

http://wings.buffalo.edu/aru/ARUreport04.html

A Strategy For The Control of Drug Addiction by Gibbs Williams:

http://www.gibbsonline.com/strategy.html




drivel

baja rooster - 5-31-2004 at 10:03 PM

After reading this thread, I wonder where most got their edukations?

1: no supply, no demand.
2:There are plenty of Cessnas that will haul 1700# of anything.
3:who is gonna pay the poppy farmers?
Let me guess,---- the U.S. taxpayer?
4; Hate Rush ,using legal drugs, not imports.

More information For Gull

Margie - 5-31-2004 at 10:36 PM

First, let me say, I do not smoke grass.

But the fact of the matter is, that Canada distributes the best quality of maijuana. Canada is the major source of highly potent hydroponic marijuana.

Everybody knows this, from users who stick up their noses to Mexican grass to Law Enforcement.

Rather than use private sources, here are a couple of references for you, you can
findmore on the net:

Popularity of Hydroponic Marijuana:

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/8643087.htm


Canadian Pot Growing Concern, US says by Barrie McKenna 3/2/04:

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/...


broad mind??

baja rooster - 5-31-2004 at 10:41 PM

Is that your total capacity?
Anyone can post links. :o

Hydroponic Marijuana

Margie - 5-31-2004 at 11:17 PM

What are you talking about? The guy needed some references. In addition, you can type in Hydroponic Marijuana and read all about it.









:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Skeet/Loreto - 6-1-2004 at 05:52 AM

Talk about changing the Subject!

Does the Govt. Tell each one whether or not to Smoke dope?

There is an old saying""Our on Free wil and Accord".

Using Using Drugs for Pleasure ,Boose, Pot, Crank shows a "Weakness in Character!

Illness claims are B--S---{Just another Excuse for not facing Reality} Getting off of you Duff and "Accepting the Responsibility of your own Acts.

"As we know Jesus better, his divine power gives us everything we need for living a godly Life.... 2 Peter 1:3

Wake Up!! to a beautiful Sunrise,to a Friend in Need,Go forth with a Song in your Heart!

Skeet/Loreto

"In God I Trust"


Song in our hearts

jrbaja - 6-6-2004 at 06:52 PM

I wish I were in
Tijuaner
Smokin high grade Canadian
Marijuaner:lol:

Sorry Skeet, i just had to.:cool:

JESSE - 6-6-2004 at 09:34 PM

The best grass in the world is in Amsterdam, followed by the american, canadian, and lastly the Mexican. As far as quantities are concerned, the US is first as they produce tons of the stuff locally, followed by Mexican weed, and lastly canadian, i have never heard of anybody smuggling pot from Holland.

El Jefe - 6-6-2004 at 10:26 PM

Seems to me that it's all about limits and where we collectively set them. Dope is illegal but we don't seem to care if a little gets trhough that doesn't hurt anybody and that some folks can taste just a bit of it now and then for fun. Same with immigration, just enough workers seem cross over to pick our grapes cheaply. Then there is the speed limit on the highway, who really sticks to that?
A few laws are set without wiggle room. Thou shall not kill (except in war and capital punishment). Oh, maybe there is room there too. But most laws as they say are made to be broken, or at least evaded just un poquito.
So, the folks that make me nervious are the ones who proclaim ultimate authority in the law and expect that all "law breakers" should be severly punished no matter how minor the crime.
Thank heavens that the way the world really works is that each criminal act for which a person is caught is considered individually and prosecuted accordingly through a court of law. Although, I'd sure like to see some graffiti "artists" get their trigger fingers amputated! .......Not really....I guess..
Anyhow, I gotta agree that treatment and education of users and potential users is the best way to deal with the drug issue.
I'm just glad to be typing all this blather with a good wine buzz in the privacy and safety of my own home.
Last time I tried the reefer was a few years ago at Burning Man. It happened to come around, and I hadn't been to that particular altered altered reality place in many years so I figured what the hell. It was OK I guess, there were no ill effects, and it didn't seem as much fun as I remembered. It kind of put me in a lonely, isolated place for some reason. To each his own I guess. I'll stick to a good cabernet.

OK, I'm ready for the lectures on how drugs ruin lives, speed kills and illegal immigrents ....ah...stand around on street corners.

Margie - 6-7-2004 at 12:27 AM

No lectures, just a great link, which includes the opinions of federal and state judges:

http://www.november.org/dissentingopinions/dissentingopinion...

and...

this is an old one -

http://www.judgesagainstthedrugwar.org/

and...

http://www.november.org/

Just like Iraq, we're going the wrong way on the War On Drugs. Period.