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Self contained spetic systems

ligui - 1-11-2013 at 10:47 AM

Hi everyone , got a quick ? . Has anyone bought, used , installed, or even know a bit about them . I'm looking at them for possibly of using on my property.

Thanks ! john

DENNIS - 1-11-2013 at 11:01 AM

I had to look these up:

http://www.acrux.hu/en/water/sewage.html

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/plumbing/msg07195757231...

monoloco - 1-11-2013 at 11:03 AM

Are you referring to the rotoplas type that look like a tinaco?

DENNIS - 1-11-2013 at 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
Are you referring to the rotoplas type that look like a tinaco?

I've seen those in a brochure, but they seem to be really small.

monoloco - 1-11-2013 at 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by monoloco
Are you referring to the rotoplas type that look like a tinaco?

I've seen those in a brochure, but they seem to be really small.

Exactly my impression.

ligui - 1-11-2013 at 11:50 AM

Cost of these units vs reg. spetic ?

monoloco - 1-11-2013 at 11:57 AM

I paid about $2500 for a 3m x 6m x 2.5m deep concrete 3 chambered tank, but that was about 4 years ago.

DENNIS - 1-11-2013 at 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by monoloco
I paid about $2500 for a 3m x 6m x 2.5m deep concrete 3 chambered tank, but that was about 4 years ago.

Jeeeezo.....that thing is huge.
I bought a 1000 gallon tank from http://www.tank-depot.com/ for almost a grand. Picked it up at a freight depot in San Diego and brought it down.

Mula - 1-11-2013 at 12:40 PM

We had a huge hole dug, filled it with big rock, broken cement blocks, put a plastic cover over it and backfilled with dirt, planted agave's on top.

Then between that and the bathroom, put 2 55 gallon plastic barrels in with 4" PVC.

Works great, cheap and 6 years old. Never a problem . . . course this is in San Nicolas.

monoloco - 1-11-2013 at 12:41 PM

Dennis, Was the tank you bought designed as a septic tank? I didn't see septic systems listed in your link. I know that if you use a plastic tank, you are supposed to fill it with water and add concrete to the soil before back filling to prevent them from collapsing.

Pompano - 1-11-2013 at 12:48 PM

Installed and working well in Coyote Bay, BCS. Passes all environmental demands/restrictions.

http://www.clivus.com/

Here's the real deal.

Bob and Susan - 1-11-2013 at 12:57 PM

i brought one down last year...
in a pickup

this is EXACTLY what you want
my neighbor installed it in one day

they dug a hole
dropped it in
set the leech lines

very easy

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they are 3 chamber
you do need to have leech lines
and gravel and news paper for on top of the leech lines

they are about 700 gallons total

septic tanks are ALWAYS filled with water
thats how they work

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Bob and Susan - 1-11-2013 at 01:10 PM

careful...dennis's link has a virus attached

monoloco - 1-11-2013 at 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Installed and working well in Coyote Bay, BCS. Passes all environmental demands/restrictions.

http://www.clivus.com/

Here's the real deal.

They work good but don't put it in the house like a neighbor of mine did, he had problems with odor and flies.

ligui - 1-12-2013 at 07:54 AM

Bob and Susan , is the water that comes out of the line usable for plants ? What kind of cost for this tank ? Thanks for any more info you've got . Would like to use a good system and reuse the water for plants . Thanks for your help.

john

DENNIS - 1-12-2013 at 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
Dennis, Was the tank you bought designed as a septic tank? I didn't see septic systems listed in your link. I know that if you use a plastic tank, you are supposed to fill it with water and add concrete to the soil before back filling to prevent them from collapsing.

Two chamber septic tank.."the Bruiser"..it's called.

http://www.tank-depot.com/browse.aspx?id=1

Like Bob, I brought it down in my truck. The price at the time was just under a thousand bucks, so I was able to take it over at TJ without importation, although I did pay the 14%....or whatever it was.

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DENNIS - 1-12-2013 at 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
careful...dennis's link has a virus attached

Really? How do you know? I'm protected by Norton all around.

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DENNIS - 1-12-2013 at 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by ligui
Bob and Susan , is the water that comes out of the line usable for plants ?

Gray water doesn't come out of a septic tank. It's designed so the water percs into a leech field. That is an important step in the proper procedure of a septic system.

ligui - 1-12-2013 at 08:41 AM

I guess i'm looking more toward these systems .http://allertonenvironmental.com/mini-4pe-biofilter.htm

oladulce - 1-12-2013 at 09:00 AM

A neighbor got one of these (as a "test" model I believe) and had a nice green yard for a while, and then the system pooped out. Sorry I don't know the particular problem and if it was an operator or equipment issue. It requires electricity to run the aerating fan. This distributor is in La Paz.

http://www.bioinge.com/ingles/newscfc8.html

In '05-'06 this system ran about $8000 dollars.

There were rumors that SEMARNAT was going to require this system for residences as part of a mandatory Environmental Impact Study. We were told that this type system requires water-flow, or usage to maintain it properly and we didn't think we'd be living in the casa year-round so we went with a giant 3-chamber concrete bunker which sounds like monoloco's- and spent about the same $$ anyway. During our inspections and throughout the impact study process we were never asked about our extensive, expensive, environmentally sensitive black water treatment system :rolleyes:

We opted for a Gray water recycling system to re-use water from showers, laundry, etc and it'll be installed in the next few weeks.

monoloco - 1-12-2013 at 09:10 AM

My neighbor was required to install a high tech grey water treatment septic system due to their proximity to the beach, they have a lot of problems with smell and the thing backing up.

durrelllrobert - 1-12-2013 at 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Installed and working well in Coyote Bay, BCS. Passes all environmental demands/restrictions.

http://www.clivus.com/

Here's the real deal.

here's a more economical model:

DENNIS - 1-12-2013 at 09:43 AM

Here's just another method of dealing with it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet

durrelllrobert - 1-12-2013 at 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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This is DENNIS' bruiser

ncampion - 1-12-2013 at 10:06 AM

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ncampion - 1-12-2013 at 10:06 AM

When we built near the water about three years ago, SEMERNAT was only approving a limited number of "acceptable" sewage treatment systems. They had to be "active aerobic" systems. Our system can process up to 500 gal/day of sewage(gray and black). The effluent is a clear, oderless water that we then pump through our drip irrigation system. Virtually 100% of our water is reused for irrigation. It does require a 24/7 air pump to inject air into the mixture in order to create an aerobic environment that kills the "stinky" bacteria and promotes the growth of aerobic bacteria which are able to completely digest the solids. So far after three years in operation it has been perfect. No smell, no maintenance except for hoseing off a filter once a year. Here's a link:

sorry wrong link, here is the correct one:

http://mightymac.com.mx/

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monoloco - 1-12-2013 at 10:38 AM

That definitely looks better than the system my neighbor had installed.

DENNIS - 1-12-2013 at 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
This is DENNIS' bruiser

That's it. So pretty I almost left it on top of the ground so me and my neighbors could admire it. :lol:

desertcpl - 1-12-2013 at 10:55 AM

here is another way

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