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Mr. President, Tear Down This Wall

Riom - 3-11-2013 at 01:39 PM

"NEARLY 700 miles of walls now separate the United States and Mexico. [...] ...these barriers are having a significant and lasting effect nonetheless: they are harming communities on both sides of the border. We should tear them down before the damage becomes irreparable."

New York Times Op Ed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/opinion/mr-president-tear-...

DENNIS - 3-11-2013 at 03:24 PM

No mention of the drugs coming across in the article. Wonder why?

Ohhhh....I know......... the writer is a prof at Berkley.

schwlind - 3-11-2013 at 03:28 PM

That famous quote, "...tear down these walls" was Reagan to the repressive Soviet Union to allow its peoples freedom... It was to allow people to escape Soviet Russia, not to keep them in! Our "walls" are to keep certain persons out!... big difference!

schwlind - 3-11-2013 at 03:34 PM

We, as a soverign country must secure our borders... This is not a Mexican issue, as there are almost as many persons of other nationalities that defy our laws, and enter the US illegally. Check out how the Mexican government deals with illegals... it is not pretty.

toneart - 3-11-2013 at 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
No mention of the drugs coming across in the article. Wonder why?

Ohhhh....I know......... the writer is a prof at Berkley.


I'll bet the writer knows how to spell Berkeley! :rolleyes:

Oh, and you already know I am no fan of the wall either.:no:

DENNIS - 3-11-2013 at 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
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Originally posted by DENNIS

Ohhhh....I know......... the writer is a prof at Berkley.


I'll bet the writer knows how to spell Berkeley! :rolleyes:





When did they change it? Did Herb Philbrick know about this?
I'm gonna file a report. We'll get this straightened out....pronto.

willardguy - 3-11-2013 at 06:09 PM

You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You?

alright, who ordered the code red?

Alan - 3-11-2013 at 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Riom
"NEARLY 700 miles of walls now separate the United States and Mexico. [...] ...these barriers are having a significant and lasting effect nonetheless: they are harming communities on both sides of the border. We should tear them down before the damage becomes irreparable."

New York Times Op Ed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/opinion/mr-president-tear-...
I'll bet he still has locks on the doors to HIS house!

Mexitron - 3-12-2013 at 05:53 AM

Ciudad Juarez growing, despite the war:

Besides sentiments of belonging and shared destiny, this “third nation,” as it is known, is bolstered by synergistic local economies. Border states are among the fastest-growing regions in both countries. Ciudad Juárez, once a city of 1.5 million, lost about a quarter-million inhabitants who fled from drug cartel-related violence to various destinations across Mexico. Yet the city’s industries continue to add jobs, fostering some $80 billion in trade between Juárez and neighboring El Paso in 2011, a $10 billion increase from the previous year.

chuckie - 3-12-2013 at 08:17 AM

And your point is?

Alan - 3-12-2013 at 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Mexitron
Ciudad Juarez growing, despite the war:

Besides sentiments of belonging and shared destiny, this “third nation,” as it is known, is bolstered by synergistic local economies. Border states are among the fastest-growing regions in both countries. Ciudad Juárez, once a city of 1.5 million, lost about a quarter-million inhabitants who fled from drug cartel-related violence to various destinations across Mexico. Yet the city’s industries continue to add jobs, fostering some $80 billion in trade between Juárez and neighboring El Paso in 2011, a $10 billion increase from the previous year.
It points out that the wall has not damaged the local economies which are in fact flourishing. A $10 billon increase in one year is pretty significant and hardly indicates the wall is an obstruction to commerce.

Bob H - 3-12-2013 at 10:02 AM

Another WALL story... incredible stuff...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall

Barry A. - 3-12-2013 at 10:10 AM

The walls are to help limit ILLEGAL activity, a noble cause.

LEGAL activity, as has been pointed out, is flourishing from what I believe and read.

Do the fences around your backyards intimidate you? Probably not. It's all in your perspective, and how you choose to interpret things.

Barry

toneart - 3-12-2013 at 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by toneart
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Originally posted by DENNIS

Ohhhh....I know......... the writer is a prof at Berkley.


I'll bet the writer knows how to spell Berkeley! :rolleyes:





When did they change it? Did Herb Philbrick know about this?
I'm gonna file a report. We'll get this straightened out....pronto.


:lol::lol:
He might have had he lived to see you change it. But he died in 1993. You're a good sport, Dennis. I'm glad I caught you on one of your good days. :tumble: Actually, Humpty Dumpty has already filed a report. :biggrin:

mtgoat666 - 3-12-2013 at 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Alan
It points out that the wall has not damaged the local economies which are in fact flourishing. A $10 billon increase in one year is pretty significant and hardly indicates the wall is an obstruction to commerce


the long border lines on south side of the wall is in many places a significant obstruction to commerce!

DENNIS - 3-12-2013 at 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by toneart
He might have had he lived to see you change it. But he died in 1993. You're a good sport, Dennis. I'm glad I caught you on one of your good days. :tumble: Actually, Humpty Dumpty has already filed a report. :biggrin:


Yeah...I can take it. :biggrin:
Herb died? Sitting at his typewriter in the attic? I think we need a Herb Philbrick Day.
DEP Herb.