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Howdy, fat-bike friends! Sven here. Gomez and I have been working on putting together Fat-Bike Radio to do audio shows and we did a test episode yesterday to work out some details. This was our first shot at making a show and Uncle Gomez and I took it easy to get a feel for what we want to do. We’ve got mad plans! But check it out and let us know what you think.

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Not to worry

Crossing that arroyo is a piece of cake

Quote: Originally posted by larryC

That's his job, no dry tires.

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

yeah, can you imagine? some of those places have prolly never had another human stand in that spot.

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

better?

Quote: Originally posted by Mark_BC

I have some great news, I'm heading back in in! I have a month off over December / January so I'll drive down in my 4runner, and the plan is to park it at Coco's Corner and then head in from the north and make my way out the south end. Lots to do to prepare! The new bike isn't even finished yet, still needs paint!!!

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Quote: Originally posted by Mark_BC   I have some great news, I'm heading back in in! I have a month off over December / January so I'll drive down in my 4runner, and the plan is to park it at Coco's Corner and then head in from the north and make my way out the south end. Lots to do to prepare! The new bike isn't even finished yet, still needs paint!!! the south end of what?

Quote: Originally posted by Mark_BC

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Quote: Originally posted by Troyeb

Hi Mark, me troye from San Felipe/Gonzaga - heard wonderful things about the canyon. I met the ultimate non-pervy guru of the Baja in a sweet man name poncho at the mostincredible spear fishingand shore casting location possible. I caught 11 species there, 70 nmiles remote. You and theother mark should getin touch for details. Nice to have met you.

More palm trees washed out to the sea!
When my kids and I camped at Punta Candelero (that is where the road north over the two dry lake beds ends) the rock beach there was loaded with flash flood palm debris that probably flushed out of La Asamblea/Salsipuedes system, which empties into the gulf just north of Candelero.

Quote: Originally posted by RocketJSquirrel

OP realizes, I hope, that Salsipuedes means "Leave if you can". Not an inviting name for an area... Is that not right?

Quote: Originally posted by rich t

There is a new bike trail that makes it more accessible, it runs from BOLA to Gonzaga Bay, it is a single track called the palm trail.

While it is true that motorcycles are using some of El Camino Real from where it crosses the L.A. Bay highway to the area of Tinaja de Yubay, there is no part of the Jesuit road north of the dry lakes. See also www.caminorealbaja.com using Google Earth.

On a map that geoffff and I are working on (under construction here):
is the Camino Real from San Borja (bottom push pin) to Calamajué (top push pin). Map also shows Hwy. 1 and in lighter detail the L.A, Bay highway and the bigger lakebed:

Quote: Originally posted by David K

While it is true that motorcycles are using some of El Camino Real from where it crosses the L.A. Bay highway to the area of Tinaja de Yubay, there is no part of the Jesuit road north of the dry lakes. See also www.caminorealbaja.com using Google Earth. On a map that geoffff and I are working on (under construction here): is the Camino Real from San Borja (bottom push pin) to Calamajué (top push pin). Map also shows Hwy. 1 and in lighter detail the L.A, Bay highway and the bigger lakebed:

Quote: Originally posted by David K

On a map that geoffff and I are working on (under construction here): is the Camino Real from San Borja (bottom push pin) to Calamajué (top push pin). Map also shows Hwy. 1 and in lighter detail the L.A, Bay highway and the bigger lakebed:

Quote: Originally posted by matthew_mangus

Quote: Originally posted by David K   On a map that geoffff and I are working on (under construction here): is the Camino Real from San Borja (bottom push pin) to Calamajué (top push pin). Map also shows Hwy. 1 and in lighter detail the L.A, Bay highway and the bigger lakebed: David, What condition is that route? I'll be down there in Feb and was planning on taking the Calamajué Wash route from Coco's and then trying to stay on a bit of the Window Rock trail before dumping out to the pavement on the way into the Bay of LA. I'd be interested in checking out a new route if you don't mind sharing.

The auto road from Calamajué Mission/ Mill south to Hwy. 1 (Km. 251 or Km. 261 (El Crucero) is easy the last two times I drove it (2012 & 2016)... just a lot of whoops north of El Crucero. The water was not deep both those trips (both in the summer).

Some photos along that way:


View of Calamajué from the gold ore mill.


Mill ruins


Dropping to the arroyo. At the bottom, look for a track to the left and across, to go see the mission site


1766 Mission church outline (across the arroyo from the mill). See the road dropping to the arroyo, across the way?


A few palms in the canyon.


Road in the canyon (sometimes has a few more inches of water, watch for holes)


Dancing boojums are passed before El Crucero.

Quote: Originally posted by rich t

Larry C, I have all my Baja almanacs in Baja so I can't reference Lat/long for you, if you look in the almanac you will see a spot called Laguna Seca, there is a Y before you enter it, the east leg goes to Condelero beach thru the canyon, if you go to the north end of Laguna Seca it dead ends at a mountain range, Bill Nichols cut a single track up the rocky hill, it is a rough trail, it parallels the coast then opens up toward Calamujue fish camp, it is east of Calamuje wash, then the trail continues north and uses the Pioneer Mine trail to get to Gonzaga.

When I drove to Laguna Seca and on to 'Candelero Beach', the road stayed along the east side of the lake, parallel to the big mesa (on the east side of the lake... at the north end of the lake and the end of the mesa, the road turned to the east and went into the colorful Los Candeleros Canyon to the coast.

The 19.6 mile section I added to the AAA map...



I didn't note any fork, but I was focused on getting to the coast that trip and it was a long time ago (2002). I do show it on my maps... to Punta Candelero:

Cool!
Well, if you ever want to see it from space and record the GPS for it, Google Earth is your friend! There is also the CalTopo map system from Nomad geoffff that can flip maps and satellite images back and forth.
https://caltopo.com/map.html

Laguna Seca to north of mesa:









[Edited on 12-15-2020 by David K]

Quote: Originally posted by rich t

TMW, No this is not the Window Rock Trail, I have done the Window Rock many times, it run west/east, if you were in the dry lake bed out of BOLA heading north and got to the junction that would be a left turn to the Window Rock Trail, don't turn, continue going north, that will take you into another wash called Laguna Seca, it is a 2 track, go as far as you can go and you will see the single track. There are many trails that share that junction heading to the Window Rock.

Quote: Originally posted by rich t

I looked up the track, the junction at Condelero and Laguna Seco is N29.14.664' w113.51.289', go into Laguna Seca to N29.18.012 W113.54.084' this is where the single track starts, there is a short spur that goes a couple of hundred yards to the left, then it deadends. The junction that takes you to Salsepuedes(spelling) beach is N 29.25.333' W113.55.648' it is about 6 1/2 miles to the beach from the last junction.

Quote: Originally posted by rich t

David, I could not find a degree key on my key board, I knew you would figure it out(LOL)

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by rich t   I looked up the track, the junction at Condelero and Laguna Seco is N29.14.664' w113.51.289', go into Laguna Seca to N29.18.012 W113.54.084' this is where the single track starts, there is a short spur that goes a couple of hundred yards to the left, then it deadends. The junction that takes you to Salsepuedes(spelling) beach is N 29.25.333' W113.55.648' it is about 6 1/2 miles to the beach from the last junction. With help from geoffff, we converted your waypoints to ones that work on CalTopo or other imaging systems, just add a space instead of the degree ° symbol or the period you had . : N29 18.012' W113 54.084' I see the trail west of the lakebed and climbing the hill! Cool. Is the final one the junction of Salsipuedes with La Asamblea?

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Quote: Originally posted by David K   Windows 10 Alt + 248 You doing that on your numeric keypad of your keyboard? A lot of people don't have one.

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Quote: Originally posted by David K   Windows 10 Alt + 248 You doing that on your numeric keypad of your keyboard? A lot of people don't have one.