BajaNomad

Hotel Gran Baja in La Paz question

Anonymous - 11-7-2002 at 08:20 PM

I read a post by Fred Metcalf on his board that the cement plant is moving and it made me wonder if anything is happening with the ol' Gran Baja. It seems there's always a rumor about the Japanese making a bid on it or some such thing. Anyone know if there's anything new happening on it, or is it still just crumbling away and being vandalized?

Stephanie Jackter - 11-8-2002 at 12:03 PM

As far as I know, it's still crumbling. The last rumor I heard is that it would be used as a casino if that bill ever got passed by the Mexican Congress. By the way, does anyone know what the status of that bill is?

Thanks Stephanie

Anonymous - 11-8-2002 at 08:50 PM

Without family members living in La Paz anymore, it's hard to keep up on the dirt and I only get to visit there for a couple months each year. I also wanted to say thanks for something you posted on the Political Forum, but I still haven't registered so I can't post there. I thought it was nice that you posted the Page numbers for the Gringo Gazette and the bit about the Ferries. On my slow computer, it's like watching paint dry waiting for a page of the Gazette to load, so being able to go directly to the page was great. It was the first I knew about the ferry situation. Wow, a lot of families are going to be out of luck this Christmas season without the ferries!

Stephanie Jackter - 11-8-2002 at 09:58 PM

Did you know that there is now a high speed ferry going to Topolobampo? You can't take cars on it, but I believe it gets you from port to port in 4 hours, costs between 35 and 55 dollars, depending on whether you go first class, and has a daily schedule. I can't wait to try it someday, but you're still right about the inconvenience the lack of ferry service will pose to the poor who go as cheaply as possible and those who want to transport their cars.

I know what you mean about the Gazette. It's agony waiting for it to load and my computer ain't all that old. When I post something from the Gazette, I'll try to summarize
the highlights, so you don't have to pull it up if it's not too deep an article. - Stephanie

Casinos

JESSE - 11-9-2002 at 11:17 AM

Mexican senate declared the issue "dead" a few days ago, at least in the next years,NO casinos in Mexico.

Anonymous - 11-9-2002 at 11:21 AM

HALLELUJAH! I'm amazed and pleased. I thought it would pass.-Stephanie

Anonymous - 11-17-2002 at 12:31 PM

This was just published on the 15th though....

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/1662782


JESSE - 11-17-2002 at 01:09 PM

Fortunatelly special interest groups have very little power in Mexican politics, while the issue might still be discussed in the future, at least in the next 4 years of president Fox term, the issue is "Dead"for now.

Why are tourist not going back to places like cabo and cancun? my opinion is that they dont want to go to a place where they can see a KFC sign from their hotel room.

Anonymous - 12-7-2002 at 01:31 AM

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/2002/dec/06/5...

December 06, 2002

Casino developer studies opportunities in Mexico

Las Vegas and Chinese gambling-hotel developer Steve Wynn has lined up a partner in Mexico in anticipation that casinos will be legalized in that nation, the Wall Street Journal reported today.

The Journal said Wynn plans to go to Mexico in January to scout locations and that he would operate a casino with a partner, Alberto Santos, a wealthy Mexican businessman and former senator.

Besides his developments in Nevada and China and his interest in Mexico, Wynn has recently explored gambling opportunities in Maryland.

The Journal reported that Wynn expects that the final version of a bill legalizing gambling won't permit casinos in most areas, including Mexico City, but would reserve them for tourist areas such as Acapulco, Tijuana, Cancun and Puerto Vallarta.

Many hoteliers support the bill -- hotels would be operated separately from the gambling halls, an official told the Journal.


JESSE - 12-7-2002 at 03:40 AM

They have been doing that for the last 12 years, even going as far as buying gambling equipment and stuff, but the Mexican senate declared the issue dead at least until 2006.

Wynn lines up Mexican partner

Anonymous - 12-10-2002 at 12:19 AM

http://www.onlinecasinonews.com/ocn/article/article.asp?id=2...

Casino and hotel magnate Steve Wynn has lined up a business partner in Mexico with an eye on the impending legalisation of gambling in that country.

Wynn plans to go to Mexico in January to scout locations. His prospective business partner is Alberto Santos, a wealthy Mexican businessman and former senator.

Besides his casino/hotel developments in Nevada and Macau and his interest in Mexico, Wynn has also recently explored gambling opportunities in Maryland.

Wynn expects that the final version of a bill legalizing gambling won't permit casinos in most areas, including Mexico City, but would reserve them for tourist areas such as Acapulco, Tijuana, Cancun and Puerto Vallarta.

Many Mexican hoteliers support the bill ? which would stipulate that hotels are operated separately from the gambling halls.

The five largest parties in Mexico?s house of congress have already agreed to approve the law before Dec. 15. Most of the bills approved in commission are voted into law.

Casinos are expected to boost Mexico's tourism industry, which already brings in $8 billion a year from foreign visitors. Mexico's tourism chamber estimates that 40 casinos would generate at least $3 billion in sales and create 200,000 jobs.

reefrocket - 12-10-2002 at 12:49 AM

Big money always wins! Great fleeced at the tables and scr%$ed at Pemex.:(

Mexico Gaming Prospects Dim

BajaNomad - 12-17-2002 at 10:23 PM

http://pokermag.com/managearticle.asp?c=150&a=687