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debit card

mcquerry - 12-10-2004 at 05:29 PM

WE ARE GOING TO BE IN MULEGE AT THE END OF DEC. AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO GET MONEY WITH OUR DEBIT CARD. THANK YOU. T. MACK

woody with a view - 12-10-2004 at 05:35 PM

NOT TOO MUCH!:lol:

THINK OF THE CONVENIENCE OF NOT GETTING ROBBED OF YOUR CASH (see other thread), AS OPPOSSED TO THE CONVENIENCE OF YOUR DEBIT CARD...

plus it keeps the economies of two nations steaming right along!:P

Anonymous - 12-10-2004 at 06:33 PM

Might think about travelers checks. In most of Baja these are a pain in the butt to cash BUT, in Mulege there is a nomad living there that will cash them for you with no hassle.


Bruce R Leech - 12-10-2004 at 09:13 PM

Ill take the Debit card or the traveler checks . or you can do a direct Bank transfer. I will also give you an official receipt that counts for your FM3 requirements.

Mulege money does not exist without a commission...

CasaManzana - 12-10-2004 at 09:37 PM

but just drop by a bank in Loreto or Santa Rosalia. If you have it set up with your bank, you can easly get $5,000 pesos/card/day ...we have two. On the other hand, the 8% comission you get charged in Mulege is often worth it for small-quick amounts if you look at the gas and time you save

bajalou - 12-10-2004 at 11:07 PM

I've been sitting here trying to remember when and where I saw a bank that wasn't in the business to make money, and I just can't remember. You pay to get your money from a bank in Mexico, usually in the rate of exchange when it's not stated seperatly. You probably get the best deal with debit cards tho. I'm still looking for the free lunch.

:biggrin:

money

mcquerry - 12-11-2004 at 08:34 AM

HI, I WANT TO THANK EVERY ONE FOR THERE REPLY. ALL INFORMATION HELPS. WE HOPE TO BE IN MULEGE FOR NEW YEARS, WE HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU THEN. T MACK

Bruce R Leech - 12-11-2004 at 08:37 AM

If you wire money here it will cast you 200 pesos + 1 % , that is cheaper than the bank rates and way cheaper than western union. If you want we will keep your money in our secure safe for you at no charge . you can withdraw funds as you need , again no cost. you can transfer in more money as you need.

Braulio - 12-11-2004 at 09:42 AM

Maybe there's something I'm missing here - I occasionally use a credit card to withdraw funds at banks at ATMs in Mexico and all I get charged is a couple of bucks - and the conversion rate the bank gives is better than the casa de cambios (money changing places) - in fact it's usually enough to more than cover the couple dollar charge.

Are they charging more in tourist areas or something?

I always thought the debit/credit card/atm thing was the way to go for cash in pesos.

Bruce R Leech - 12-11-2004 at 12:30 PM

thwoody in ob
there are no banks or ATM,S in Mulege. we use a regular store credit card machine and pay about 7% to the bank to use it and then IVA on top of that. then we pay a monthly rent on the equipment ,and an accountant to pay our taxes. the money you walk away with is mine not the banks and it takes me 15 days to git back so i can lend it to an other customer. It takes me 2 90 mile round trips to the bank.

How much would you charge to do that for me? I don't make much money on this most months and some months I lose.

we have Ben robed twice this year on the way back to Mulege.

I don't thing I am gouging for this service even though it is not free But it is a service that is needed here . and most of the people that use it are Happy that it is here

IN Loreto..

flyfishinPam - 12-11-2004 at 01:32 PM

My BofA account gets charged $5 for every ATM withdrawl from the Bancomer machine. For the convienence its well worth it.

Don't use traveler's checks- here's why:

there is lots of fraud with traveler's checks and for that reason, merchants have a charge attached to deposit them into their bank accounts, and they have to wait ten business days for them to clear.

So what? Well this is enough reason for most local merchants to decline them as payment.

Pesos is the best way to pay for everything and that's what the ATM's will dispense.

Another thing about traveler's checks is that the checkholder is the ONLY person who can trade them in a bank for cash- and with passport in hand. Bancomer in Loreto just recently became more lenient with this rule and will now accept a birth certificate and photo ID to exchange them, but before they did there were lots of folks who could do nothing with their travelers checks. Never know when rules and policies will change around here, so best be safe.

B of A ATM card for pesos?

latitude26n - 12-18-2004 at 02:31 PM

Pam-
are you using a B of A ATM card to do withdrawals from Bancomer? I've been looking everywhere to find out what US and Mexican banks are linked to provide this service.

[Edited on 12-18-2004 by latitude26n]

Bruce R Leech - 12-18-2004 at 06:03 PM

Banamex changes there rate every 1/2 hour. I think the others do to. by the time I leave here to go to the bank it will Chang at least twice. watch the rate on the INTERNET for your bank.

I'm confused Bruce.....

Debra - 12-18-2004 at 08:17 PM

"2, 90 mile round trips to the bank"? Where on earth do you bank?

I've never been charged while using my ATM card at a bank in Baja except for the usual $1.50 (different bank?, don't know) I have to also say that I would think that a fee for the service that Bruce offers is WAY within reason (if I don't have to drag my lazy bottom off the beach, I'm more than happy to pay for that)

Bruce, do you also offer "Pay Pal"?

Debra...

Mexray - 12-19-2004 at 02:27 AM

I believe what Bruce is saying is that it's about 45 miles from Mulege, where his place is - to Santa Rosalia, where the nearest Banamex branch is located....hence the 90 mile round trip...plus about a $10 bill just for the gas he'll burn along the way...

Art - 12-19-2004 at 09:21 AM

Remember folks, you have no recourse when using a debit card. If someone decides to increase the amount of a transaction you could be stuck for huge amounts. A consumer visiting a foreign country bought some dishes with a debit card. The merchant changed the amount to over $18,000. and as far as I know the consumer has never gotten there $ back.

Use a Credit Card and you have all of the tools to dispute a charge, and prove what the original amount was (you do save your receipts don't you?)

Sure, the CC will cost you a little more than just a transaction fee, but the security is well worth it.

Bruce R Leech - 12-19-2004 at 04:16 PM

How can they change the amount after you complete the sale?

Keep your receipt. it is important that is all you need

[Edited on 12-19-2004 by Bruce R Leech]

Braulio - 12-20-2004 at 10:51 AM

Hose A - thanks for the test - that's the type of thing we need more of on the boards.

I haven't used travelers checks in probably 20 years. What I usually do is just use my credit card (I guess a debit would work as well) in the ATM at the bank - I don't think I've ever had much of a wait. Comparing exchange rates posted outside the change houses with what I receive from the ATM I've always (as of about 2 weeks ago) received a better deal from the atm - even taking in to account the fee.

I wonder if they're giving a different rate at the atm as opposed to the teller window?

My main reason for using the card is that I don't want to be carrying a wad of cash around - in any denomination - so using casas de cambio wouldn't be a solution for me.

I also don't like using credit cards in general for purchases in Mexico - because there are rings that can duplicate your card once they have the number.

In fact I wouldn't even consider using an uninsured card (like many debits) in Mexico.

I'll run a similar test to yours when I'm down after christmas - let's see what numbers I get.

Chau man.

Bruce R Leech - 12-20-2004 at 12:06 PM

just check your receipts and keep them and you should not have a problem . if they charge you moor than your receipt shoes they have a big problem. don't let theme run your card on the old Manuel machines. and don't let them take the card out of your site.

Reeljob - 12-20-2004 at 02:47 PM

All real good comments, but you still need the protection that the Credit Card Law (at least in the USA) provides that are NOT provided to debit cards.

You try and take your little receipt for a debit card transaction to the bank. They'll send you back to the merchant and GOOD LUCK.

You can take your CC receipt back to the bank, or under the Fair Credit Billing Act, dispute the CC charge in writing. Furthermore if you loose your CC the most you can be charged is $50.00. Not if you use a Debit Card. Your at the mercy of the merchant to make things right.

Credit / Debit cards

Al G - 12-20-2004 at 06:06 PM

Has anyone used a debit card and their bank not charged them a fee?
While in Todo Santos, I got money from the bank there ( Bankcor ??) from their ATM. I was not charged a fee by them or my bank, but I don't remember the exchange rate. The reason I bring this up is at the airport when I left I was out of pesos and wanted a beer. I got 50 pesos and was charged $1.50 by the ATM that I agreed to(I wanted a beer bad) Found out later My bank charged me $2.00 + $1.?? exchange fee. That beer cost me $9.00+. My point is be careful at stand alone ATM's. Maybe it's just airports, but they won't get me again. My bank is Washington Mutual and I say don't believe their ad "the buck fifty stops here".
Al G

:no::no:

Bruce R Leech - 12-20-2004 at 06:31 PM

next time you come back I will bye you a beer that will bring your average down to 4.50.

Bruce.......

Debra - 12-20-2004 at 07:20 PM

If you answered I didn't catch it. Do you accept Pay Pal?

Bruce R Leech - 12-20-2004 at 07:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Debra
If you answered I didn't catch it. Do you accept Pay Pal?

yes we do But usually a Bank transfer works better.