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Location and Name for David K

Skeet/Loreto - 8-21-2014 at 12:17 PM

David: Many years ago someone from up North , may have been Canada came an built a fairly large size Building North of Loreto and San Bruno. It was on the Beach I think near m+Mercanieras' It was kind of strange as the people arriving in Loreto were not allowed to talk to the Locals and were transferred to the location,
i went in there a couple of times and the building was empty.
it seems as it was connected to a Group up North.

Do you have any information and is the Building still there. There was a locked Gate about a mile before the Bldg.

Thanks for your help' Skeet

durrelllrobert - 8-21-2014 at 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
David: Many years ago someone from up North , may have been Canada came an built a fairly large size Building North of Loreto and San Bruno. It was on the Beach I think near m+Mercanieras' It was kind of strange as the people arriving in Loreto were not allowed to talk to the Locals and were transferred to the location,
i went in there a couple of times and the building was empty.
it seems as it was connected to a Group up North.

Do you have any information and is the Building still there. There was a locked Gate about a mile before the Bldg.

Thanks for your help' Skeet
Sounds like the private membership club that the Fisher family here in Punta Banda was developing along with private investors.

David K - 8-22-2014 at 07:21 AM

Sorry skeet, I don't have any data on that.

dtbushpilot - 8-22-2014 at 08:07 AM

Not going to give up that easy are you DK?

David K - 8-22-2014 at 12:37 PM

Sometimes you just got to pass instead of play.

dtbushpilot - 8-22-2014 at 01:20 PM

Come on David, at least give us a map.

BajaBlanca - 8-22-2014 at 01:24 PM

slightly off topic but I was approached by a gentleman today who said there is a large lot in san Bruno that is for sale at 60 thousand pesos. that is all the info I have.

I can't thank you enough David ,for all the times you have taken the time and effort to show us all the locations of places being talked about. You are a walking history book yourself!


map map map David (((:

David K - 8-22-2014 at 03:40 PM

Guys thank you. I am not home. I will add maps when I am. If you go to my web site mission page I have satellite maps of the sites, including San Bruno. http://vivabaja.com/missions4

David K - 8-22-2014 at 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
slightly off topic but I was approached by a gentleman today who said there is a large lot in san Bruno that is for sale at 60 thousand pesos. that is all the info I have.

I can't thank you enough David ,for all the times you have taken the time and effort to show us all the locations of places being talked about. You are a walking history book yourself!


map map map David (((:


You are welcome Blanca! Maps are a look back in time and space!

SAN BRUNO 1683-1685 (the Jesuit colony before Loreto)

1701 MAP:



2003 MAP:




ZOOM IN (see San Bruno near the coast, north of Loreto):



[Edited on 8-23-2014 by David K]

Marla Daily - 8-23-2014 at 12:05 AM

I bet Skeet is talking about the VERY strange huge facility built on the water maybe 15 miles up the coast past El Bajo about 20 years ago. A very expensive gated high security road was blasted and paved to the "secret" site. Local rumor had it there was a child-smuggling operation going on, run by a foreigner with a Mexican wife. One day we heard there was a raid; the children (75+) were taken away in buses. The facility has remained abandoned ever since. It had multiple buildings in the complex, a common large dining hall, dormitory rooms, private house, etc.
Very odd indeed.

Cliffy - 8-23-2014 at 01:10 AM

The plot thickens!

LaTijereta - 8-23-2014 at 07:34 AM

Go to google earth, and you can see the buildings just inside of Punta Mangles.. North of San Bruno..
The story about this place involved a cult following, and children that were spotted in Loreto back in the 80's...

Skeet/Loreto - 8-23-2014 at 08:05 AM

Thanks Nomads.\\

I have stopped a couple of times and gone into the Bldg. There was a one time a Ford Pick up there.
I was near the House being rented in loreto and was not allowed to talk to the Youngsters, It seems as if it was equal boys and girls in their Teens.

I appreciate all the Info, I am writing it down for my Kids to read later on.

Take care and stay Happy

Skeet

Skeet/Loreto - 8-23-2014 at 09:11 AM

If anybody remembers the Name I would appreciate them Posting. I am trying to do a background

Skeet

dtbushpilot - 8-23-2014 at 09:16 AM

Thanks for the excellent maps DK.

Even though I've been in Baja many years I often read posts about places I've heard of but I'm not sure exactly where it is. The maps help to bring a story to life, maps from different time periods make it even better. Thanks again DK, I appreciate your efforts. :yes::yes:

luv2fish - 8-23-2014 at 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Come on David, at least give us a map.


Or some tire tracks:lol::lol::lol::lol:

ncampion - 8-23-2014 at 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LaTijereta
Go to google earth, and you can see the buildings just inside of Punta Mangles.. North of San Bruno..
The story about this place involved a cult following, and children that were spotted in Loreto back in the 80's...


Do you have coordinates for that spot??

.

David K - 8-23-2014 at 12:11 PM

Glad the maps are welcomed. Hope MMc isn't too bothered. I am in Yuma having lunch. Take care everyone!

defrag4 - 9-13-2020 at 09:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Marla Daily  
I bet Skeet is talking about the VERY strange huge facility built on the water maybe 15 miles up the coast past El Bajo about 20 years ago. A very expensive gated high security road was blasted and paved to the "secret" site. Local rumor had it there was a child-smuggling operation going on, run by a foreigner with a Mexican wife. One day we heard there was a raid; the children (75+) were taken away in buses. The facility has remained abandoned ever since. It had multiple buildings in the complex, a common large dining hall, dormitory rooms, private house, etc.
Very odd indeed.


interesting, i recently heard this rumor and thought my fishing captain was just pulling my leg!

he said its haunted now and occasionally you will see little kids running around in the hills above the ruined house :o

[Edited on 9-13-2020 by defrag4]

defrag4 - 9-13-2020 at 09:30 AM

i wonder if Skeet is still alive

David K - 9-13-2020 at 10:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
i wonder if Skeet is still alive


I thought the same thing. I hope is is well if he is still with us!
We met Skeet at the very first Pyramid Resort Book event in 2003... Here is is with Jimmy Smith:



Jimmy Smith (wearing the hat) and Skeet act like old chums!

BajaNomad - 9-13-2020 at 10:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
i wonder if Skeet is still alive


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1812689992095243&...

David K - 9-13-2020 at 11:26 AM

That a 2-year-old photo of them. I didn't find anything newer of Skeet. Thanks for the link.

honda tom - 9-13-2020 at 10:34 PM

I cane across this place in 2002 - 2004... I saw it from the water and told my Mexican captain I wanted to take a look. We anchored my boat and swam ashore (3 of us gringos) . we walked around for about an hour. a lot of money was spent here on a 6-8000 foot main house and 2 large guest houses about 100 yards away.... none completed, and the main house had been destroyed before its completion... giant steel beams had been pushed over and many cut with torches and hauled away. there were 2 giant patios with palapa post overlooking the sea of cortez. cinder block foundations and a sewer systew were all in place....conduit for electrical had been run everywhere under huge slabs of cement.... it was very strange that so much work had been done and nothing was there.

when we returned to the boat my captain told me a story that made it even more weird..... he said the home was bein built by an Italian doctor. The doctor was in prison on the mainland for harvesting organs from kidinapped children and selling them worldwide. the captain said that after the doctors arrest the mexican military were the ones that pushed over the structure and hauled off the steel.

How true? Ya got me. But my captain is a pretty straight guy and has lived in Loreto for 40+years.

you can see the circle patios... and the guest houses to the south on google earth.

honda tom - 9-13-2020 at 10:39 PM

From what I saw the building looked as it had not been completed.... possibly it could have been... the guest homes were completed on the exterior ... but no finishes on the inside.

defrag4 - 9-14-2020 at 09:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  
I cane across this place in 2002 - 2004... I saw it from the water and told my Mexican captain I wanted to take a look. We anchored my boat and swam ashore (3 of us gringos) . we walked around for about an hour. a lot of money was spent here on a 6-8000 foot main house and 2 large guest houses about 100 yards away.... none completed, and the main house had been destroyed before its completion... giant steel beams had been pushed over and many cut with torches and hauled away. there were 2 giant patios with palapa post overlooking the sea of cortez. cinder block foundations and a sewer systew were all in place....conduit for electrical had been run everywhere under huge slabs of cement.... it was very strange that so much work had been done and nothing was there.

when we returned to the boat my captain told me a story that made it even more weird..... he said the home was bein built by an Italian doctor. The doctor was in prison on the mainland for harvesting organs from kidinapped children and selling them worldwide. the captain said that after the doctors arrest the mexican military were the ones that pushed over the structure and hauled off the steel.

How true? Ya got me. But my captain is a pretty straight guy and has lived in Loreto for 40+years.

you can see the circle patios... and the guest houses to the south on google earth.


i heard the same organ harvesting rumor, spooky!

i wonder who owns the land now, its a beautiful spot and some damn good fishing right out your front door!

Sparetimewanted - 9-19-2020 at 11:49 AM

I know the place fairly well. I have kayaked through a few times and camped on that beach. I have also fished with a guy=Roberto Romero RIP, who had been there his whole life. He told me someone started it and planned for it to be some type of recovery house for alcoholics and addicts. Wanted it to be remote enough where the residents wouldn't walk off. Didn't get all the funds that he needed, and apparently walked away from it.

kylet - 10-2-2020 at 02:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
i wonder if Skeet is still alive


I thought the same thing. I hope is is well if he is still with us!
We met Skeet at the very first Pyramid Resort Book event in 2003... Here is is with Jimmy Smith:



Jimmy Smith (wearing the hat) and Skeet act like old chums!

Is that Jimmy “the grinning gargoyle”? He looks so much like someone called that who I remember from my childhood. He was friends with Dick Maugg and we met at Dick’s house in Playa Colorada.

David K - 10-3-2020 at 07:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by kylet  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
i wonder if Skeet is still alive


I thought the same thing. I hope is is well if he is still with us!
We met Skeet at the very first Pyramid Resort Book event in 2003... Here is is with Jimmy Smith:



Jimmy Smith (wearing the hat) and Skeet act like old chums!

Is that Jimmy “the grinning gargoyle”? He looks so much like someone called that who I remember from my childhood. He was friends with Dick Maugg and we met at Dick’s house in Playa Colorada.


Yes, Jimmy Smith was The Grinning Gargoyle of San Ignacio in the 1960s (a moniker bestowed upon him by Desert Magazine editor, Choral Pepper during one of Erle Stanley Gardner's campfire gatherings). Jimmy adopted it with glee! Jimmy relocated to Los Barriles some years late, towing his love Lupe along with him.



[Edited on 10-3-2020 by David K]

kylet - 10-3-2020 at 02:06 PM

David, thank you for the history lesson! I remember him fondly, though I was in elementary through high school when I got to hang out with him. I wasn’t aware he was so well known. Did you know Dick Maugg as well? I was very sad I didn’t get to say goodbye when he passed a few years back. I wish I had been older and more interested in these crusty characters when I was in the East cape a bunch as a kid. The world is a good deal less crusty, and therefore far less interesting these days.

I found a picture of Jimmy I took in La Ribera in probably ‘88 or 90. Attached here.

Sorry for the thread jack everyone.

65DA44B6-82CD-444A-8880-161DE188BA64.jpeg - 47kB

David K - 10-3-2020 at 03:58 PM

Oh, that's great stuff... thanks for the photo addition. This is a 6-year-old thread, so you didn't hijack a thing.

I don't have a lot of good photos of Don Jimmy. His daughter Sara is a Nomad, maybe she will pop in with something?

I will add the few photos I have with Jimmy Smith in them once my website is back online Monday.