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Old Mill boat ramp and parking lot under water

rts551 - 11-25-2015 at 06:17 PM

Not sure why, and some people can not remember this ever happening but today the boat ramp and parking lot at the Old Mill San Quintin was under water. Pictures on Talk Baja.

rts551 - 11-25-2015 at 06:30 PM

Photo by BajaGringo.

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AKgringo - 11-25-2015 at 06:35 PM

King tide today, higher than normal tides!

David K - 11-25-2015 at 06:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
King tide today, higher than normal tides!



... and a natural, normal condition! :light:

micah202 - 11-25-2015 at 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
King tide today, higher than normal tides!


...happy full mooooon+

,,always stronger tides on the moon,,can't yer feeeel it!? :spingrin: :tumble:


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rts551 - 11-25-2015 at 07:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
King tide today, higher than normal tides!



... and a natural, normal condition! :light:



If they are higher than "normal" how does that all of a sudden become "natural and normal".


does not seem to fit the definition. "conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural. "

rts551 - 11-25-2015 at 07:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by micah202  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
King tide today, higher than normal tides!


...happy full mooooon+

,,always stronger tides on the moon,,can't yer feeeel it!? :spingrin: :tumble:


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Problem is...no one can ever remember it flooding...so not just the moon!

woody with a view - 11-25-2015 at 07:03 PM

it not magic or climate change. it happens every year going back to day 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_tide

BornFisher - 11-25-2015 at 07:07 PM

Plus heavy north west winds. There is a coastal flood advisory for some SoCal beaches.

. Coastal Flood Advisory remains in effect until noon PST
Friday...

* locations... low-lying areas along the immediate coast.
Especially susceptible locations include Imperial Beach...
south Mission Beach... La Jolla shores... Cardiff... and
Oceanside in San Diego County and Newport Beach... Seal Beach...
and Sunset Beach in Orange County.

* Timing... during morning high tides through Friday.

rts551 - 11-25-2015 at 07:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
it not magic or climate change. it happens every year going back to day 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_tide


Then why no floods in the past?

rts551 - 11-25-2015 at 07:12 PM

No one is helping to explain why this has not happened in recent history.

micah202 - 11-25-2015 at 07:26 PM

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...yah,,the king tide is something extra,,,,they did a bunch of sandbagging up here in vancouver waterfront just for the 'event',, that certainly doesn't happen twice a year though....

.....''While the term 'king tide' isn't a scientific term, it is used to describe an especially high tide event occurring twice a year, when there is alignment of the gravitational pull between sun and moon. ''

woody with a view - 11-25-2015 at 07:29 PM

it was a 7.6' high tide with winds pushing the water towards the shore from the storm that passed. watch this clip. it happens regularly: http://www.cbs8.com/Clip/11953732/high-tide-at-marine-room-i...

maybe SQ is sinking since they pump out all of the ground water to grow strawberries and tomatoes.

mtgoat666 - 11-25-2015 at 07:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
it not magic or climate change. it happens every year going back to day 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_tide


Then why no floods in the past?


King tide is a SoCal surfer term, sounds stupid, like something a surfer would say. Better to call it a spring tide.
Spring tides will be anomalously high when the barometric pressure is low, there is a storm surge, or sea level is rising. In this case may be a little of all of the above. Scientists tell us that sea level is rising, so not surprising to see new flooding during a spring tide where no flooding was recorded historically.
Perhaps dk has a picture of a palm tree to dispute the sea level theory, eh? :lol:

bajaguy - 11-25-2015 at 07:34 PM

No mention of surfers here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_tide

Or here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perigean_spring_tide
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
it not magic or climate change. it happens every year going back to day 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_tide


Then why no floods in the past?


King tide is a SoCal surfer term, sounds stupid, like something a surfer would say. Better to call it a spring tide.
Spring tides will be anomalously high when the barometric pressure is low, there is a storm surge, or sea level is rising. In this case may be a little of all of the above. Scientists tell us that sea level is rising, so not surprising to see new flooding during a spring tide where no flooding was recorded historically.
Perhaps dk has a picture of a palm tree to dispute the sea level theory, eh? :lol:

sancho - 11-25-2015 at 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  




King tide is a SoCal surfer term, sounds stupid, like something a surfer would say. Better to call it a spring tide.











Been surfing since '64, never heard the term King Tide until
recently. Come on goat, give us So Cal Spicoli's a break...
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BornFisher - 11-25-2015 at 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
No one is helping to explain why this has not happened in recent history.


I can explain it. Too many people have CRS!!!! Jeeze I remember them closing 101 between Cardiff and Solana Beach many times. If you drove it during one of these events (moon + storm wind) you risked being hit with a rock (tossed from the surf) or driving through lots of sea water and seaweed to get through. So they would close 101 until tractors could remove the debris then reopen until the next high tide. Oceanfront homes and restaurant incurred heavy damage (Marine Room, La Jolla, Chart House, Cardiff). Windows had to be boarded. Seaweed and seawater were flooding roads (Mission Beach) and people complained they had to step over the debris just to walk on a sidewalk. So it`s because of Can`t Remember chit or more commonly know as CRS!!!
Thanks for the pics, I love stuff like that!!

rts551 - 11-26-2015 at 07:22 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/...

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Expect-More-King-Tides...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/this-year-likely-to-be-warmest-o...

rts551 - 11-26-2015 at 08:12 AM

From what I can find out, David has it partly right. Warming water causes rise in sea level due to El Nino. Winds push up abnormal swell. Moon/earth/Sun alignment causeing extreme tides.

Put this all together with man made climate change and we have flooding never seen before in recorded history.

On edit: I am still waiting for nature to put in an immediate fix.


[Edited on 11-26-2015 by rts551]

mcfez - 11-26-2015 at 09:14 AM

The pacific waters have been warming up for the last 5 months due to El Nino......add this to a full moon and peak tides. The term "king tide" originated in Australia, New Zealand and other Pacific nations to refer to an especially high tide that occurs only a few times per year.

For a great explanation:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/...




[Edited on 11-26-2015 by mcfez]

Udo - 11-26-2015 at 11:33 AM

Thanks for the epic photo, RTS.

Enjoyed the new view.

55steve - 11-26-2015 at 11:54 AM

http://www.cbs8.com/story/30606071/king-tides-peak-today-cau...

The interesting part:

The King Tide arrived Tuesday morning and it's the highest astronomical tide of the year. The ocean condition will create the potential for similar saltwater soakings of generally dry land through Friday, according to the National Weather Service, which has issued coastal flood advisory that will remain in effect until noon Friday.

Hook - 11-26-2015 at 01:08 PM

I heard that a Beaver Moon makes all things rise a little higher.

David K - 11-26-2015 at 01:11 PM

:lol:

AKgringo - 11-26-2015 at 01:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
I heard that a Beaver Moon makes all things rise a little higher.


So it was beavers that dammed up the boat launch area?

Edit; Sorry for the highjack, but at least this hasn't evolved into a political/environmental slug fest!

[Edited on 11-26-2015 by AKgringo]

Cliffy - 11-26-2015 at 08:12 PM

The polar ice cap must have suddenly melted :-)

David K - 11-26-2015 at 11:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
The polar ice cap must have suddenly melted :-)



South Pole maybe...? The North Pole cap is ice floating on the sea... and it could all melt and not raise sea level one inch. Ice on land that melts could add to the level, perhaps?

redhilltown - 11-27-2015 at 01:47 AM

Yikes!!! That is a lot of water that may cover the parking lot of the Old Mill...if guests can't park there, who is Jim going to yell at!!!!???