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Ensenada By pass road

Nappo - 12-1-2015 at 10:41 PM

Anyone have an update on the Ensenada bypass road?

Ensenada bypass road

Nappo - 12-1-2015 at 10:48 PM

Posted on news, but wondering if anyone has info on the progress of the Ensenada bypass road...thx

dasubergeek - 12-1-2015 at 11:10 PM

It's not done, but it's graded. I see people driving it all the time. It's dirt the last couple klicks.

Whale-ista - 12-2-2015 at 12:46 AM

Is it worth taking to avoid town?

Where does it come back out to hwy 1 at southern end?

DENNIS - 12-2-2015 at 07:46 AM

To my knowledge, the first phase is going to end around the north end of Reforma, Ensenada.
I doubt I'll be seeing the road travel around the city in my lifetime. Won't make much of a difference anyway. Inner-city Ensenada has developed around freight being moved in and out. That won't change.

bajaguy - 12-2-2015 at 07:53 AM

Last time I was on it, the paved road ended at Ave Ruiz. You had to turn left onto Calle Ambar then right onto Reforma. Still had to drive through town on Reforma.

I'll give it a check in the next few days and report and new info

bajatrailrider - 12-2-2015 at 10:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

I would be surprised if went beyond Hwy. 3 (ie. halfway around)... It looked many years from looping around the entire city?? It would be nice with the Ensenada Nomads gave us some progress reports! :light:

How about a map on this David.

TMW - 12-2-2015 at 10:39 AM

Here is a Google Earth image dated June 5 2015. It appears that the pavement ends at the marker upper left. A bridge appears near completion at marker BP-B. As a reference I placed a marker at the entrance to the Horsepower Ranch lower right and it is at Hwy 3 KM9.
It's about 2 miles from the end of pavement to the bridge and about 2 miles to the HPR-TO.

Here is the Bypass from Hwy 3 to Hwy 3.

[Edited on 12-2-2015 by TMW]

rts551 - 12-2-2015 at 11:02 AM

Long way to go before it becomes a true bypass. Maybe they are waiting to see how much pressure Chapala to Mexicali HWY takes off of Ensenada?

[Edited on 12-2-2015 by rts551]

David K - 1-5-2016 at 11:22 AM

Anybody who lives in or near Ensenada have any progress reports from the ground?

Bajahowodd - 1-5-2016 at 05:58 PM

I have to wonder if a bypass road that takes you miles into the hills will actually save much time versus staying on the main highway and hoping you make the lights.

TMW - 1-5-2016 at 07:29 PM

The bypass road is close to the Hwy 1/Hwy 3 jct in Ensenada. The bypass is a four lane and when completed will have minimum stoplights and will save a lot of time getting thru Ensenada. The road is built for truckers to use but one can assume others will use it too as the locals who live in the area do now.

bajaguy - 1-5-2016 at 07:42 PM

TMZ, you should take a better look at that road. Maybe it was "supposed" to be a 4 lane but when you get east of the Hwy 3 jct, it is really a 2 lane. If they expect to put trucks on this to bypass Ensenada, they are in for a surprise. When/if it ever gets completed, it would be suicidal to share that road with trucks. The only exit you can use now will put you onto Ruiz. With this rain, I wouldn't be surprised if there are rockslides blocking what is already built

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

The bypass road is close to the Hwy 1/Hwy 3 jct in Ensenada. The bypass is a four lane and when completed will have minimum stoplights and will save a lot of time getting thru Ensenada. The road is built for truckers to use but one can assume others will use it too as the locals who live in the area do now.

mtgoat666 - 1-5-2016 at 08:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

I would rather drive a couple extra miles on a 4 lane curvy road than cross any city and deal with traffic, if given a choice. It is a min. of 1/2 an hour of the trip just to get across Ensenada!

But, that's just me... a country boy! LOL :cool:

The drive thru Ensenada ain't bad. It seems to go pretty quick. I always need to shop when heading south, so is practical to drive thru town.
Aren't nomads all retirees and vacationers? What's your hurry?

David K - 1-5-2016 at 10:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

1) I go to Baja to get away from traffic and cities.
2) I am not in a hurry when I am the land I love, with beaches and boojums!

Bajahowodd - 1-10-2016 at 03:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Have to go with goat here. Always enjoyed seeing the sights, as Ensenada was growing into a real metropolis.

Still don't know how much time a bypass road will save.

If anything, a bypass road around the clutter in Valle de San Quintin would more benefit Baja travelers heading way South. Something from around Colonet, to down past the Los Pinos area.

That is congestion.

durrelllrobert - 1-10-2016 at 08:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd

I have to wonder if a bypass road that takes you miles into the hills will actually save much time versus staying on the main highway and hoping you make the lights.

Main purpose of bypass isn't to save anyone any time. Being built to keep big rigs that are only heading south of Ensenada off the Ensenada streets

TRUCK BYPASS

J.P. - 1-11-2016 at 12:00 AM

The Truck Bypass was conceived about the same time the Container Ship Port at Clonet was to handle the expected increase of truck traffic hauling container freight to the U.S.
That proposed project has ben on hold about as long as the construction on the Bypass has.

durrelllrobert - 1-11-2016 at 12:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

On a GOOD day the drive from Punta Banda to the first toll gate is 30 minutes but on all other days it's an hour.

David K - 1-11-2016 at 03:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

On a GOOD day the drive from Punta Banda to the first toll gate is 30 minutes but on all other days it's an hour.

Exactly... and because of that, the mountains around Santo Tomás, and the farm town traffic through San Quintin, expect Hwy. 5 to become the more popular corridor to L.A. Bay and south to Cabo San Lucas once it is completed. The old dip-filled highway between San Felipe and Puertecitos will be in a big need of an upgrade to match the new style highways north and south of that 50-mile section.

bajaguy - 1-11-2016 at 03:43 PM

Hwy 5 from San Felipe south to the jct with hwy 1 will get pounded to pieces with the truck traffic and I wonder how the people of the Hwy 5 corridor through San Felipe and the south campos will like all of those trucks

bajaguy - 1-11-2016 at 04:58 PM

David - Just take a close look at the "new" pavement south of Puertecitos. It is starting to check and crack and potholes (although still small) are starting to form. There are sections of curbing/gutters that have failed/caved in, there are sections of some bridge embankment concrete that has started to collapse and road cuts are almost vertical causing rockslides (all standard for "better engineered" road construction - Just look and drive the scenic highway between El Mirador and San Miguel if you need an ezample of "better engineered"). The unregulated weight of commercial trucks and the cheapout construction methods will turn that "new" section of highway into a mess within 5 years............and again, the added truck traffic through town and the south campos before the "sulphur mine" road is built will be a big bonus.

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy

Hwy 5 from San Felipe south to the jct with hwy 1 will get pounded to pieces with the truck traffic and I wonder how the people of the Hwy 5 corridor through San Felipe and the south campos will like all of those trucks

Only south to Puertecitos may get pounded to pieces as that is old road construction. Puertecitos on south to Hwy. 1 is new, wide and better-engineered highway... the same as the new Hwy. 1 south of Maneadero.

The new highway 5 from the entrance to San Felipe to Puertcitos has already been discussed... it will be inland, nearer the sulfur mine, like the old road was... It is just a matter of how long will they wait to build it? That is when the dippy road along the South Campos will get really worn out!

David K - 1-11-2016 at 05:22 PM

bajaguy, you live there, so you do know that this is Mexico! There is no better road in Baja than these newest, with bike path size shouldered highways now being built down there.

To be fair, roads in the USA also wash out during storms. I just heard on the radio that a fire truck fell into a sinkhole in Poway!

bajaguy - 1-11-2016 at 05:27 PM

You are correct. I do live here and I do watch them build roads. I wouldn't have them build me a driveway. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it is good.....just keep watching the area between San Miguel and El Mirador

Quote: Originally posted by David K

bajaguy, you live there, so you do know that this is Mexico! There is no better road in Baja than these newest, with bike path size shouldered highways now being built down there.

To be fair, roads in the USA also wash out during storms. I just heard on the radio that a fire truck fell into a sinkhole in Poway!

David K - 1-11-2016 at 05:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy

You are correct. I do live here and I do watch them build roads. I wouldn't have them build me a driveway. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it is good.....just keep watching the area between San Miguel and El Mirador

Bajahowodd - 1-11-2016 at 05:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

On a GOOD day the drive from Punta Banda to the first toll gate is 30 minutes but on all other days it's an hour.

More popular with whom? For those of us in Coastal California, it makes no sense to spend the extra drive time and miles to get over to Highway 5. Net loss.

woody with a view - 1-11-2016 at 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

I just heard on the radio that a fire truck fell into a sinkhole in Poway!

check your sources, Ace! :lol:

https://twitter.com/sdbrichards/status/686711368125304832/ph...

rts551 - 1-11-2016 at 07:39 PM

give David a break....its not often he gets down that far. Yes the new section of 5 is showing some wear on the northern parts.

David K - 1-11-2016 at 08:32 PM

Hey there Ace, did you read me when I said I "heard it on the radio" and they said "a fire truck fell into a sinkhole"... maybe a little exaggerated, but that's what the do to get you to stay tuned.

woody with a view - 1-12-2016 at 05:50 PM

perhaps you should listen to a different station, one that spouts facts?

DENNIS - 1-12-2016 at 05:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

There is no better road in Baja than these newest, with bike path size shouldered highways now being built down there.

Quote:

Problem is...the wider the bike path, the bigger the truck using it for a passing lane.

[Edited on 1-13-2016 by DENNIS]

rts551 - 1-12-2016 at 06:31 PM

How True Dennis. SAme on the road to Tecate.

rts551 - 1-12-2016 at 06:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

perhaps you should listen to a different station, one that spouts facts?

How would one catch Rush if he listened to something fact based?

rts551 - 1-12-2016 at 06:35 PM

initially the by-pass road was to help with truck traffic and an anticipated port in Colonet. Now that 5 is most completed is there a pressing need for this road.

woody with a view - 1-12-2016 at 06:47 PM

there is. more roads can't be a bad thing....

Break Down Lane

J.P. - 1-12-2016 at 07:02 PM

In most States the lane to the right of the solid white line is considered a break down lane and you will get a ticket for driving in it
As a retired Ironworker and having experience working on many free ways in Ca. and other places. the requirements for constructing the Break Down Lane is considerably less than the main roadbed and will not support sustained usage.
Of course this esssss Mexico and if its wide enough a 18 wheeler may attempt to pass you on it.

TMW - 1-12-2016 at 08:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

On a GOOD day the drive from Punta Banda to the first toll gate is 30 minutes but on all other days it's an hour.

More popular with whom? For those of us in Coastal California, it makes no sense to spend the extra drive time and miles to get over to Highway 5. Net loss.

Leaving San Diego I can get to the Hwy 1/Chapala Jct faster using Hwy 5 than using Hwy 1.

ncampion - 1-12-2016 at 08:59 PM

Just drove from southern California to Loreto two days ago using the"back way" through San Felipe. A much more relaxing drive overall. Got through the dirt section in under an hour. Total mileage and driving time are almost the same as using hwy 1,but way more enjoyable, plus you get to see some different scenery.

Don Pisto - 1-23-2021 at 02:09 PM

fb reporting ensenada bypass 3 to 3 is completed, anyone drove it?

David K - 1-23-2021 at 03:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto

fb reporting ensenada bypass 3 to 3 is completed, anyone drove it?

Link please?

The Baja 1000 in November was using it for the start and finish of the race.

sredish - 5-2-2021 at 02:23 PM

this is old but I was on the bypass a few times this week. wide open, nice and easy driving. lots of people walking and biking on it for exercise. was much nicer drive dropping into the center of town than the old highway honestly. might've been close in time with the stops and traffic but much easier and less trouble.

bajaric - 5-2-2021 at 03:29 PM

Driving south on Hwy 3 approaching El Suazal I have seen the bypass, nice wide road signed "Ojos Negros". However, getting to Ojos Negros after the bypass connects with Hwy 3 will still involve a narrow, twisty grade up into the mountains.

I guess the bypass might help people in eastern Ensenada who are traveling north, by avoiding the main coastal route when it is shut down for the bike race or mardi gras or whatever.

Not much traffic on Hwy 3 east of Ojos Negros, case in point, has anyone driven past Km 54 / 55 recently on Hwy 3 east of Ojos Negros to see if the main road to Laguna Hanson has a gate across it, as was reported?

It might be that Hwy 3 up the grade to Ojos Negros will eventually be improved, to access a proposed international airport in the Ojos Negros Valley. That might be the end game here.