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Finally, a Jeep Pickup by 2019!

David K - 1-14-2016 at 10:49 AM

Willys/ Jeep, Kaiser/ Jeep, AMC/ Jeep... all had pickups... AMC dropped the full-size Gladiator truck with the introduction of the Comanche, but when Chrysler took over, the Jeep Comanche small truck was dropped since Dodge was already filling that need for them with the Dakota.

Well, Fiat owns Jeep now and like a Spaghetti Western, the Italians are going American with a pickup, based on the Wrangler and will be built in Toledo, OH at the Jeep factory.

Will it look like one of the concepts we have seen? Two door? Four door?

The story is at Four Wheeler: http://www.fourwheeler.com/news/1601-breaking-jeep-wrangler-...




Udo - 1-14-2016 at 11:01 AM

Cool looking, but I doubt that I'll replace my capable FJ cruiser.

David K - 1-14-2016 at 11:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
Cool looking, but I doubt that I'll replace my capable FJ cruiser.


I agree, Jeeps have always rated high on my "cool looking ORV index", but lacking the quality of a Toyota, I also will stay with my Tacoma. That Fiat runs Jeep now isn't exactly helping the reputation, but I will try and remain open-minded about the changes. I am no fan of the Fiat-Jeep Renegade, however.


mtgoat666 - 1-14-2016 at 12:01 PM

Looks like a land rover imitation. What is less dependable, land rover or jeep? I will stick to toyota!

The backseat looks like it only fits midgets.

motoged - 1-14-2016 at 12:26 PM

Oh boy....here comes all the huffing and puffing about whose rig is best....of course it's the one you own :biggrin:

PaulW - 1-14-2016 at 01:36 PM

David wrote
I agree, Jeeps have always rated high on my "cool looking ORV index", but lacking the quality of a Toyota, I also will stay with my Tacoma. That Fiat runs Jeep now isn't exactly helping the reputation, but I will try and remain open-minded
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Quality has many measures and the devil is in the details. Jeeps in general have poor reliability rating by Consumer Reports. 2 door Wanglers are rated better than average and the 4 door is slightly less. Thus the huge sales for those two models. And sure enough there are many satisfied owners of those two models. Best of all they come equipped with correct stuff many demand and are not found on most trucks. The Durango has the best rating of all Jeeps.
Yup, for reliability rating Toyota wins. For performance rating not so good.
Selling vehicles that tax the ability to keep up with the demand results in poor quality and lots of glitches from the various vendors.

[Edited on 1-14-2016 by PaulW]

chippy - 1-14-2016 at 02:59 PM

I learned my Jeep lesson with my first 4x4. It was a 1967 Kaiser/Jeep pickup. That POS over head cam straight six was the worst motor I`ve ever dealt with:mad:. Nice looking truck though;).

chuckie - 1-14-2016 at 03:00 PM

I checked at the coffee shop and couldn't find anyone who has been holding their breath waiting for a Jeep PU....

AKgringo - 1-14-2016 at 03:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
I learned my Jeep lesson with my first 4x4. It was a 1967 Kaiser/Jeep pickup. That POS over head cam straight six was the worst motor I`ve ever dealt with:mad:. Nice looking truck though;).


The military version of that truck that we had in Korea in 1969 removed all comfortable amenities, and combined the unreliable drive train with absolutely brutal suspension!

Nobody was eager to get them out of the motor pool when they went in for repairs, and any units still using the old M36 trucks from the 50s hung on to them as long as possible.

Full size Jeep Racing Truck...

David K - 1-14-2016 at 03:59 PM

Here's a photo taken by Nomad 'La Tijereta' of Roger Mears (also a Nomad) racing a Jeep J10 Honcho truck to a victory at the 1979 Baja 1000...





Here's a photo from a newer owner of that truck, so he says...
Roger Mears’ 1978 Jeep Baja 1000 Class Winner

"This 1978 Jeep Honcho pick-up is said to be the chassis and cab that Roger Mears and Mike Moore took to a class 3 victory at the 1979 Baja 1000 and a SCORE victory at Riverside Raceway. It has been modernized with coils but still looks great, and Google reveals some discussion and period photos here and an older listing here in 2010. "

chuckie - 1-14-2016 at 04:43 PM

1979?....Yaaaawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Tioloco - 1-14-2016 at 08:27 PM

Hopefully Jeep does a pickup on the Wrangler chassis. I have had 3 Wranglers and have been pretty hard on them and never had a reliability issue.
On a side note- My father in law has had a few Toyotas and has had fairly serious problems with each of them including his 2014 Tacoma (transfer case failure-dealer replaced).
I will cross my fingers about the factory Wrangler pickup.

mtgoat666 - 1-14-2016 at 09:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
1979?....Yaaaawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Well, wrangler hasn't changed in 30 years. Still a heep.

David K - 1-15-2016 at 12:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
1979?....Yaaaawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Well, wrangler hasn't changed in 30 years. Still a heep.


Yes, the Wrangler was created in almost 30 years ago in 1986 but it indeed has changed... from YJ to TJ (in 1995) to the bigger JK (in 2006).

The Wrangler YJ replaced the CJ-7 (born in 1976) which was a slightly longer version of the long-running CJ-5 (1954-1983).

captain.olives - 1-20-2016 at 09:14 AM

I'm pretty sure thats still the AEV Brute and not Jeep's actual work. They work very closely with Jeep. Its been available for those with the disposable cash for some time nw (like $80K +/-) and available with a diesel, albeit not a small diesel. Thats just not my tax bracket unfortunately.

Been hearing the "confirmed" Jeep direct model rumor for a couple years now from senior mgt. Just waiting for Jeep to actually follow through, hopefully on the next model major redesign.

While we are wishing, dreaming, hoping.... I'd like to see it with a small clean (ok.... real clean not VW clean) efficient diesel or small gas engine mated to that 8spd auto and get 30mpg. Lots of us dont need to pull 10k lbs, but want a small four door pickup that can carry dirtbikes, boards, camping gear etc capably overland for great distances efficiently. I know its a small niche market... but I cant be alone.

The Taco really is the best choice now. Hopefully there is more options in the future. In the interim, would love to figure out how to import a Land Rover Dender 130 double cab pickup. :biggrin: Not going to happen in California... so I guess I am stuck with my old Disco II for a few more years.



[Edited on 1-20-2016 by captain.olives]

durrelllrobert - 1-20-2016 at 09:45 AM

I really loved my 1957 FC-150 Jeep because I could see every rock on the trail in front of me + lot's of room for big Mule Deer in back. I swapped out the 4 cylinder flat head for a 283ci Chevy V8 and added overdrive for highway cruising.

Jeep Pickup

J.P. - 1-20-2016 at 10:40 AM

I had a 1955 Willis Jeep pickup it came with the Hurricane 226 cid. engine which was one of the most used industrial engines of that time when I restored it I put a Warren Over Drive in it and turned if from a 55mph. truck to a 70 mph . truck it was a good looking little truck.

David K - 1-20-2016 at 01:03 PM

I have seen the FC-170 or 150 Forward Control Jeep Truck turned into a camper/ motorhome once... How perfect for space utilization and visibility climbing grades as Robert said.

Keep the Jeep pickup history coming!

Roller coaster

AKgringo - 1-20-2016 at 02:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I have seen the FC-170 or 150 Forward Control Jeep Truck turned into a camper/ motorhome once... How perfect for space utilization and visibility climbing grades as Robert said.

Keep the Jeep pickup history coming!


Which is scarier, going up the cog rail climb on a roller caster, or plunging down the other side?

That is kind of how I felt when I briefly owned one of those cab over jeeps in the mid 70s. Unless I had a pretty good load in it, it was almost a choice between braking or steering. Also, sitting right over the front springs tends to maximize the bounce factor.

It was my first 4x4, and I admit it was at the bottom end of the condition scale when I got it, But I don't miss it!

David K - 1-20-2016 at 03:29 PM

They are so odd looking, but the off roading concept (at slow speed, of course) is way cool... No mystery of where your front tires are going, because you are forward of them!



Jeep recently created an FC concept truck...

JC43 - 1-20-2016 at 06:35 PM

Looks like "Made in China"

David K - 1-21-2016 at 07:47 AM

The FC concept? Made in Michigan, I believe. Jeeps main plant has been in Toledo, Ohio. That goes back to the days of Willys-Overland.

chuckie - 1-21-2016 at 08:18 AM

Wow!

Yesterday on the trail

Ken Cooke - 1-31-2016 at 07:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Well, wrangler hasn't changed in 30 years. Still a heep.


My heep can pull helplessly bogged down trucks out of sand and mud. :light:
Jeep pickup? Bring it on!!:bounce:









[Edited on 2-1-2016 by Ken Cooke]

Dead pickup, happy Jeep!

Ken Cooke - 1-31-2016 at 07:50 PM







This is Jeep country!:cool:

Custom Overlander Model Gladiator

David K - 4-27-2019 at 08:25 AM

https://www.youtube.com/v/Qy6YoEjA2r0



Get this for Leidy Laura, Ken!

StuckSucks - 4-27-2019 at 08:52 AM

I just purchased a '19 (with apostrophe) Tacaoma -- I am not worried. Remember, the MS Zune was going to be the iPod killer. I know there are Jeep people who will embrace the Gladiator, but I predict it will only last a few years, then fade into the sunset.

John Harper - 4-27-2019 at 10:19 AM

Those Jeep Renegade taillights remind me of cartoons where someone is drawn "knocked out" unconscious, or dead. Very ugly and bizarre.

John

Ken Cooke - 4-27-2019 at 10:23 AM

The Gladiator looks like a winner. Although it has a long wheelbase for trails like Pioneer, or Big Bears John Bull, I think that by keeping one stock for simple overland-type trails will be a good idea.

A 24 month lease will set you back $143/month or a nicely equipped Rubicon model will cost about $255/month based on depreciation after two years as seen in the Autoblog article, I may step into a Gladiator while keeping my reliable and fun 2003 Rubicon for the more challenging trails and Pioneer trails of Baja.

My wife will get a kick out of driving the truck and she is happy that I plan on keeping the suspension stock, unless I plan on upgrading to a 40" tire.

chuckie - 4-27-2019 at 12:49 PM

This thread is THREE years old?...

mtgoat666 - 4-27-2019 at 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
This thread is THREE years old?...


That’s longer than the warranty on a jeep!
Do people even bother to keep jeeps after warranty expires?

John Harper - 4-27-2019 at 03:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

That’s longer than the warranty on a jeep!
Do people even bother to keep jeeps after warranty expires?


Maybe that's why they have a 24 month lease. Dump it before it falls apart?

John

David K - 4-27-2019 at 04:34 PM

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Ken Cooke - 4-28-2019 at 11:58 AM

194,000 miles and it can be used to jumpstart a :o Prius :o

willardguy - 4-28-2019 at 01:13 PM

not a jeep guy but sure looks like Jeep hit a homer with this one!

mtgoat666 - 4-28-2019 at 06:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
194,000 miles and it can be used to jumpstart a :o Prius :o



It looks like the real story is that the prius is giving a jump to the jeep!

thebajarunner - 4-28-2019 at 06:04 PM

Double ugly!!

Ken Cooke - 4-28-2019 at 06:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
194,000 miles and it can be used to jumpstart a :o Prius :o



It looks like the real story is that the prius is giving a jump to the jeep!


I was parked nearby eating a Chicken wrap (due to blood sugar problems) and the driver walked up to me and told me that his Prius needed a jump start. I thought that it was a joke as the Prius has so many batteries. He told me the battery went too low to start. After I finished my burrito I helped him and in 10 minutes he was driving his battery-challenged Lyft vehicle back towards Palm Desert.

I was driving to Calexico For the 'el imposible' 4WD Run.

geoffff - 4-29-2019 at 09:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
I thought that it was a joke as the Prius has so many batteries.


For reasons I haven't learned yet, the Prius (I have one) has a little 12v lead-acid battery which powers the car computer and interior lights. This can easily be run down if the interior lights are accidentally left switched on when the car is parked. (The interior lights are old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, and have no auto-off timer.) The Prius can't do anything when this 12v battery is dead.

John Harper - 4-29-2019 at 09:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
The interior lights are old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, and have no auto-off timer


Jeez, even my 2000 Ranger has that feature.

John

TMW - 4-29-2019 at 10:53 AM

I rented a Prius once a couple of years ago and I had to read about half the owners manual to figure out how to start it. It was fun to drive but the rear window needs to be changed, when I first looked into the rear view mirror I thought the trunk was open.

del mar - 4-29-2019 at 10:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
I thought that it was a joke as the Prius has so many batteries.


For reasons I haven't learned yet, the Prius (I have one) has a little 12v lead-acid battery which powers the car computer and interior lights. This can easily be run down if the interior lights are accidentally left switched on when the car is parked. (The interior lights are old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, and have no auto-off timer.) The Prius can't do anything when this 12v battery is dead.


lol...I just replaced this battery, hard part was finding it!

Ken Cooke - 5-1-2019 at 09:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
I thought that it was a joke as the Prius has so many batteries.


For reasons I haven't learned yet, the Prius (I have one) has a little 12v lead-acid battery which powers the car computer and interior lights. This can easily be run down if the interior lights are accidentally left switched on when the car is parked. (The interior lights are old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, and have no auto-off timer.) The Prius can't do anything when this 12v battery is dead.


I was puzzled. Thanks for explaining.