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Policies pulling people over in Maneadero

Patrick21 - 9-27-2017 at 08:10 AM

Two weeks ago I got pulled over in Maneadero on the way to Camalu. I was told by a young officer that I hadn't stopped at one of the many stop signs. I told him in Spanish that I did stop. We went back and forth he told me it was a 3000 peso fine. I told him I wanted to go to the station. He took my license and registration and I followed him. After 5 minutes he pulled over and gave me my documents back and said I was free to go. I didn't t have to give him anything. I was on my way down again last Thursday and in Maneadero I saw the same cop pull California plates over and was talking to the driver. Possibly the same shake down. . Be careful when going through Maneadero!

SFandH - 9-27-2017 at 08:23 AM

Thanks for the heads up.

I carry an expired license and registration with me. No way am I going to give anybody my current ID.

motoged - 9-27-2017 at 08:24 AM

Policy????


Here we go again.....just drive legally folks....

Questions?

SFandH - 9-27-2017 at 08:28 AM

The OP said he did stop but was pulled over anyway. It happens in Mexico.

Barry A. - 9-27-2017 at 08:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Thanks for the heads up.

I carry an expired license and registration with me. No way am I going to give anybody my current ID.


I do the same, and entirely agree with SF&H here.

bajatrailrider - 9-27-2017 at 09:08 AM

the op did correct thing go to police station. tourist in police station they don't like that. complaint to tourist protection hated by policeman. common to give lic back after 1 block call it quits.

Excrement Occurs ..................

MrBillM - 9-27-2017 at 09:20 AM

................AND, no doubt, now and then traffic violation extortion happens.

BUT, it would be incredibly Naive to accept at face-value the circumstances as related by the (supposed) victims so often posted.

In 50 years of extensive travel on both sides of upper Baja and a number of stops, I can remember only ONE extortion stop which "could" be described as unwarranted.

In that ONE, the officer had insisted that MY assumption of 60KPH allowing 40MPH was incorrect and I should have been driving at no greater than 36MPH.

Which was contrary to the practice wherever there was dual signage and 60/40 was the practice.

Other than that, EVERY single time that I was pulled over, I HAD committed the offense triggering the extortion negotiations.

Of course, times change and there may be a greater frequency of unwarranted stops nowadays.

MAYBE.

TMW - 9-27-2017 at 09:26 AM

Same thing happened to me last year. I went thru a flashing green light, too late to stop. They said I ran a red light and wanted $60, I told them no way and we started for the police station when they stopped and let me go.

bajaguy - 9-27-2017 at 09:45 AM

Get a dash cam

AguaDulce - 9-27-2017 at 09:49 AM

pulled over last July in Ensenada. At 6 a.m. . Only car on road. officer said I should have waited for left turn arrow. Went back to intersection and the light was in-op. He apoligized

Alm - 9-27-2017 at 10:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  

In that ONE, the officer had insisted that MY assumption of 60KPH allowing 40MPH was incorrect and I should have been driving at no greater than 36MPH.

Which was contrary to the practice wherever there was dual signage and 60/40 was the practice.

Offtopic here, but the officer was right, posted limit 60 k/h = 36 m/h, not 40 m/h. There is no practice posting dual signage in Mexico, the govt regulations require km/h. Officers normally ignore first 10 km/h over the limit... EXCEPT FOR WHEN HE NEEDS CASH. Holidays are coming, or his novia wants a new dress, who knows...

sancho - 9-27-2017 at 11:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  

I carry an expired license and registration with me. No way am I going to give anybody my current ID.













SF, have you ever used that tactic? Sounds good, but
I might be a bit apprehensive, not sure of his reaction.
Probably wouldn't pay attention or read the expiration dates though

SFandH - 9-27-2017 at 11:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by sancho  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  

I carry an expired license and registration with me. No way am I going to give anybody my current ID.


SF, have you ever used that tactic? Sounds good, but
I might be a bit apprehensive, not sure of his reaction.
Probably wouldn't pay attention or read the expiration dates though



No, I've never had to use it. I understand what you're saying though.

AKgringo - 9-27-2017 at 11:54 AM

I got shaken down on the west side of La Paz in 2013, by a cop on a motorcycle. He used the drivers license hostage routine to extort a bribe for not confiscating it. That's the short version.

I was told by a former member of the L.P. P.D., that they don't actually have the authority to confiscate it (Feds do) so just show it, and don't allow him to take it.

I did just that in the spring of 2014, and told them, "no mordida, give me a ticket, or let me go" It worked! I don't think he wanted me talking to a judge.

Lose your license!

AKgringo - 9-27-2017 at 12:03 PM

Not in Baja, but in the state where you live. On the same spring 2014 trip, my license wound up being left at the TSA security on my Flight back to Anchorage.

I had to go to the DMV and get an duplicate, and shortly after that, I received the one I left behind in the mail. The old one is the one I carry SOB, with the new one secured. I obviously need to us the new one in the US, but I have a disposable, current one that I can put at risk.

Alm - 9-27-2017 at 01:35 PM

If I were a cop, expired license would've raised a red flag to treat the driver with more caution - at the very least. There is a good chance that I would've noticed this (if I were a cop). They are trained to notice details that don't matter to other people.

One tip that I was given - tape to the back of the DL a piece of paper:

SINDICATURA del GOBIERNO MUNICIPAL
TIJUANA 683-4095
ENSENADA 617-1561

Put a lot of crease on the tape so that the turd at the back of DL will make him look.

Never had to use this on Mex cops. NOB cops glanced briefly, didn't say anything.

Lee - 9-27-2017 at 02:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Thanks for the heads up.

I carry an expired license and registration with me. No way am I going to give anybody my current ID.


And when the cop looks at the expiration date, and calls you on it?

You need a DL with a VALID date, not expired, so be a little more creative?

sancho - 9-27-2017 at 02:38 PM

Recently, I believe on another site, maybe Mexicali, guy
pulled over, speeding? Cop said it was going to be $20 mordida, I haven't
heard of $20 in 20 yrs., but he told the cop he wanted to go pay
at the station, where he paid $900 pesos, $50 dlls. or so.
Other Mex Nationals there paid the same for same offensives

DENNIS - 9-27-2017 at 03:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Get a dash cam



....and watch it be confiscated for "evidence" never to be seen again.
Like the idea, Terry, but it could easily go wrong for lots of impromptu reasons. If the recording could be Wi-Fi saved....that would be cool....but the judge won't be on your side, and illegal taping [legit or not] could become an issue....legit or not.
So....record it and save it for a grandiose YouTube vid that the world gets to enjoy.

My routine is to make my own licenses, as well as other cards with my printer-scanner.... altering muy important details......laminate them with a 20 buck Amazon machine, and tell the armed robber "I'll go to the station myself"....as I head down the avenue in my desired direction.
Eff'em.

DENNIS - 9-27-2017 at 03:36 PM


Mordida is here to stay. It's an aspect of culture. Play the game, or devote yourself to refusal, but you won't change anything.
My choice is refusal.

mtgoat666 - 9-27-2017 at 04:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  

Mordida is here to stay. It's an aspect of culture. Play the game, or devote yourself to refusal, but you won't change anything.
My choice is refusal.


i seem to recall that some nomad here said the best response is to act insane when stopped by the police -- deters the cops. but over-acting could get you committed for a psych hold?

Alm - 9-27-2017 at 04:23 PM

Counterfeiting the DL could work, or could backfire worse than an expired license.

Don't know if Ca DL these days are that low-tech and easy to print. My DL is Canadian, not very easy. There is a regular photo and a smaller photo with DOB numbers that can be read at certain angles, like those old 3-dimensional photos. And a metallic print with govt logo - laser printer won't do this. And a magnetic strip like on credit card - I could print a fake strip, but have a feeling that many card readers would read it if the DL was genuine - it's just a magnetic strip with personal data.

fandango - 9-29-2017 at 08:45 PM

I thought that a ticket could be written and payment made by mail. What area is that in and by what cops? Fed,municipal or city. Or all three?

fandango - 9-30-2017 at 11:10 AM

Bump
Anyone know about tickets being issued?

mtgoat666 - 9-30-2017 at 11:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Counterfeiting the DL could work, or could backfire worse than an expired license.

Don't know if Ca DL these days are that low-tech and easy to print. My DL is Canadian, not very easy. There is a regular photo and a smaller photo with DOB numbers that can be read at certain angles, like those old 3-dimensional photos. And a metallic print with govt logo - laser printer won't do this. And a magnetic strip like on credit card - I could print a fake strip, but have a feeling that many card readers would read it if the DL was genuine - it's just a magnetic strip with personal data.


You got to be really dumb to think the cops are dumber than you. I encourage you all to show those fake IDs. And, yes, the cops are smart enough to read a license expiration date.

I like the USA reality show, "cops"
Is there a Mexican version? There should be!

[Edited on 9-30-2017 by mtgoat666]

willardguy - 9-30-2017 at 11:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Counterfeiting the DL could work, or could backfire worse than an expired license.

Don't know if Ca DL these days are that low-tech and easy to print. My DL is Canadian, not very easy. There is a regular photo and a smaller photo with DOB numbers that can be read at certain angles, like those old 3-dimensional photos. And a metallic print with govt logo - laser printer won't do this. And a magnetic strip like on credit card - I could print a fake strip, but have a feeling that many card readers would read it if the DL was genuine - it's just a magnetic strip with personal data.


You got to be really dumb to think the cops are dumber than you. I encourage you all to show those fake IDs. And, yes, the cops are smart enough to read a license expiration date.

I like the USA reality show, "cops"
Is there a Mexican version? There should be!

[Edited on 9-30-2017 by mtgoat666]


I think you're finally on to something! there's no doubt in my mind that every single cop in mexico is waaay smarter than the goat!:yes:

bajatrailrider - 9-30-2017 at 03:29 PM

Everybody on this site is smarter then mt666. Don't call him a goat even they have a brain.:bounce: