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Map of Hwy. 1 to Bahía Magdalena

David K - 1-15-2018 at 06:06 PM

Not a lot to put on this one, but needed to show the roads I logged for the Baja Bound Guide for visual enhancement...

advrider - 1-15-2018 at 07:16 PM

Are you going to sell a completed guide book or is it going to just be online? How long will it take to put out a guide book, I'm sure it's a lot of work...

David K - 1-15-2018 at 10:25 PM

The Guide data gathering was sponsored by Baja Bound. What they will do with it hasn't been decided. Both online and printed editions are being considered. I have a lot more plans I hope to accomplish.

Bob and Susan - 1-16-2018 at 12:24 PM

isn't the gas station on the wrong side of hwy one?

David K - 1-16-2018 at 12:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
isn't the gas station on the wrong side of hwy one?

The icon of a gas pump can't always fit in an ideal spot but implies a Pemex station is in that town or along that part of the highway. However, if you told me which of the pump icons you are referring it would help. In this case, they are actually correct. In Insurgentes, there is a Pemex just east of town on the north side of Hwy. 1 as well as one in the middle of town south of the Lopez Mateos highway. In Constitucion, there were several Pemex stations on BOTH sides of Hwy. 1.

motoged - 1-16-2018 at 01:16 PM

My recollection is that the Pemex in Insurgentes is just south of the traffic circle on the east side of Hwy 1.....isn't the one east of the traffic circle closed?

David K - 1-16-2018 at 01:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
My recollection is that the Pemex in Insurgentes is just south of the traffic circle on the east side of Hwy 1.....isn't the one east of the traffic circle closed?


No, not last August... at Km. 1. Hey, maps and guides are only 100% accurate the day you are there researching for them. Thanks to Nomads, I can update the info because things do change. Because of Baja Nomads and our shared passion, I think this guide will be one of the best!

Bob and Susan - 1-16-2018 at 03:41 PM

maybe you should take another ride down to correct your data before you post

an error like this would make someone turn north instead of south for gas...its a BIG error


gas.jpg - 135kB

[Edited on 1-16-2018 by Bob and Susan]

maspacificoII - 1-16-2018 at 04:18 PM

Picky.....there is another one if you turn right at the intersection. You can see the one your google earth pic shows from the intersection. Actually there are almost as many Pemex stations as there are OXXO stores now. I think a gas station sign in a town should suffice. Great work David!
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David K - 1-16-2018 at 04:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by maspacificoII  
Picky.....there is another one if you turn right at the intersection. You can see the one your google earth pic shows from the intersection. Actually there are almost as many Pemex stations as there are OXXO stores now. I think a gas station sign in a town should suffice. Great work David!
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Seriously...
as I said Bob, the Pemex is EAST of town on the NORTH side of Hwy. 1 at the Km. 1 marker. There is also a station NORTH of that highwya jcn., in town, on the WEST side of Hwy. 53, south of the Lopez Mateos jcn.

That is at least three Pemex stations in Insurgentes.

As I said, the pump icon is just letting you know there is gas in that area. For instance, at Lopez Mateos, the station is on the NORTH side of the road as it enters town. However, I put the icon on the south side because of the 5,000 ft. airstrip icon of an airplane is located on the north. There just was no reason to crowd both those on one side of the road line.

Thank you for your interest, however.

Bob and Susan - 1-16-2018 at 05:53 PM

a map should be correct

garbage in garbage out

I spent ALOT of time correcting data and
mapping for computers to sort letters during my life...

if you make a published map it should always be as correct as possible

Bob and Susan - 1-17-2018 at 06:22 AM

no...when it wrong its wrong

you are being PAID to provide correct info not what you think is correct

someone paid you to get data not take data from old maps

your report should be correct

if I was grading this map you would get a B-

mtgoat666 - 1-17-2018 at 07:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
a map should be correct

garbage in garbage out

I spent ALOT of time correcting data and
mapping for computers to sort letters during my life...

if you make a published map it should always be as correct as possible



Well, he is doing his drafting in Word Perfect, so is probably too much work to be bothered with correcting mistakes :(

mtgoat666 - 1-17-2018 at 07:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
a map should be correct

garbage in garbage out

I spent ALOT of time correcting data and
mapping for computers to sort letters during my life...

if you make a published map it should always be as correct as possible



I agree Bob... and the gas pump is located where there is a gas station. I don't need to put three gas pumps around Insurgentes, as one answers the need for a quick look to find a town with a Pemex.

The AAA Map uses the letter G or GD in a box to show gas stations. It just happens that they put the gas station symbol in the same place as I put mine. I don't think there was a Pemex at Km. 1 on the road to Loreto back then, either? So, I am in good company, yes?

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Have a look where the gas station is shown for Loreto... it isn't there, but it is in Loreto:



Here in the USA I use GasBuddy app to find lowest price gas. GasBuddy app is very precise about mapping gas stations. So is google maps. And Bing. And every other online map. Just saying!

Never tried GasBuddy app in Baja, sounds like it would be a good app for customers to rate “honesty” of pumps :light: :light: :light: :light:

LaTijereta - 1-17-2018 at 08:29 AM

As long as we are considering locations... there is a new station on Hwy 1, east of the traffic circle on the north side.. this station sells both gas and diesel. Something to consider on these maps when showing locations, is to identify what type of fuel is sold (ie AAA map)..
Getting correct locations of the stations would be a big help for travelers towing boats/ trailers and planning your fuel stops going north or south..
My other thoughts on these maps, is that they should be available as a “download” for gps units.. They would be much more useful for traveling these routes with apps like Back Country or Polaris navigation loaded on your device.
Just my thoughts...

David K - 1-17-2018 at 09:35 AM

BOB, it is put where the gas station is, just as LaTijereta said. The Pemex is on Hwy. 1, east of that traffic circle, 1 km. The others are north and south of that intersection. The one icon covers all of Insurgentes and it IS where there is an open Pemex in August 2017.

A town with three gas stations doesn't get three gas pump icons.

The maps are for use with the road guide, to enhance them. That I added gas pumps at all was to provide one added bit of info...

David K - 1-17-2018 at 09:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
a map should be correct

garbage in garbage out

I spent ALOT of time correcting data and
mapping for computers to sort letters during my life...

if you make a published map it should always be as correct as possible



Well, he is doing his drafting in Word Perfect, so is probably too much work to be bothered with correcting mistakes :(


I am editing in Word by recommendation of a fellow book author and it works fine. I make edits many times to these maps. Try and pay attention goat. Never too much work to have correct data.

The maps have been through as many as 6 edits each, so far. I put them out here so you guys can help my old failing eyes spot errors.

David K - 1-17-2018 at 09:53 AM

Please note Bob and Goat, on this map, the gas pump for Puertecitos is not out in the Gulf of California where the icon is placed (neither is the runway):

LaTijereta - 1-17-2018 at 09:57 AM

As long as we are considering locations... there is a new station on Hwy 1, east of the traffic circle on the north side.. this station sells both gas and diesel. Something to consider on these maps when showing locations, is to identify what type of fuel is sold (ie AAA map)..
Getting correct locations of the stations would be a big help for travelers towing boats/ trailers and planning your fuel stops going north or south..
My other thoughts on these maps, is that they should be available as a “download” for gps units.. They would be much more useful for traveling these routes with apps like Back Country or Polaris navigation loaded on your device.
Just my thoughts...

Map vs guide

AKgringo - 1-17-2018 at 10:02 AM

A guide should be as accurate and up to date as possible. It is a big bonus if is on line and can be edited as necessary!

With a map....I prefer KISS vs TMI!

I like what David is producing.

motoged - 1-17-2018 at 10:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by maspacificoII  
Picky.....there is another one if you turn right at the intersection. ...


"Left....right"....useless kind of reference....try using compass point re: directions (nsew)....L/R depends on direction of travel....:light:

[Edited on 1-17-2018 by motoged]

David K - 1-17-2018 at 11:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by maspacificoII  
Picky.....there is another one if you turn right at the intersection. ...


"Left....right"....useless kind of reference....try using compass point re: directions (nsew)....L/R depends on direction of travel....:light:

[Edited on 1-17-2018 by motoged]


So true Ged!
In the guide, unless there is no possible mistake, it is all compass directions or both "Turn north (left)"... It was one of the things my editors would remind me if I started using left/ right... The compass directions work better if you use the same road to go the other direction! Of course, you have to know some basics like which way is north, south, east, west! That is why I will often have left or right included on side roads more than Hwy. 1.

JZ - 1-17-2018 at 11:01 AM

Never been to Mag Bay. Anything worth seeing there?

David K - 1-17-2018 at 11:39 AM

Mangroves, Nature Photography, Grey Whales, it's a huge inland water body with numerous passages and sheltered bays (one of the finest natural harbors on the Pacific Ocean it was once said).

As you can see from the map, paved highways go to ports there. A few Nomads live or have homes in Lopez Mateos. To the south of San Carlos, a graded dirt road goes to Puerto Cancun and further south a paved road goes to Puerto Chale (from Santa Rita)... technically that is on Bahia Almejas but connected to Bahia Magdalena.