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Abreojos lot for sale

David Nuevo - 1-24-2018 at 05:30 PM

Prime ocean-front lot in the La Baliza area (where all the American-owned properties are) of Punta Abreojos, 1.5 miles from town and a few lots away from closest neighbors (the "UNFINISHED HOUSE" in the photos is on a different lot, well behind the back of this lot and hasn't been occupied for years). Dimensions are 20m x 60m; I have title and fideiocomiso. Asking $50K; similar lots have sold for up to $75K - all reasonable offers considered!

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BajaBlanca - 1-25-2018 at 07:34 AM

La Baliza is gorgeous GORGEOUS beachfront if you have never been there.

Wish you the best of luck with a quick sale! and looking forward to having a new next town over neighbor.

norte - 1-25-2018 at 11:20 AM

I can't tell. What are the investments? The unfinished house?

woody with a view - 1-25-2018 at 12:25 PM

The unfinished house is only a landmark, not part of this lot.

Bob53 - 1-25-2018 at 04:41 PM

60K invested in what exactly?

Paco Facullo - 1-25-2018 at 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
60K invested in what exactly?


Sand with an excellent view , what more do ya want, a house urr sumthin ?
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bledito - 1-25-2018 at 07:45 PM

lot price fido taxes fencing maybe clearing stuff dirt development.

David Nuevo - 1-25-2018 at 08:51 PM

Thanks, Blanca! Woody is correct: The house is on the lot behind mine -
included as a point of reference. The investment includes the original purchase price, establishing and paying the fideiocomiso and prop. taxes the last seven years. I'm getting older and had a change of plans, so I'm willing to sell at a loss.

MMc - 1-25-2018 at 10:12 PM

This is a PRIME lot there!

[Edited on 1-27-2018 by MMc]

norte - 1-26-2018 at 07:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David Nuevo  
Thanks, Blanca! Woody is correct: The house is on the lot behind mine -
included as a point of reference. The investment includes the original purchase price, establishing and paying the fideiocomiso and prop. taxes the last seven years. I'm getting older and had a change of plans, so I'm willing to sell at a loss.



Taxes and the Fideiocomiso are the cost of ownership. Taxes did nothing to improve the property and the new owner is going to have to establish theoir own ownership papers. Lets get realistic here. You are trying to recoop money from a bad investment sounds like to me.

norte - 1-26-2018 at 07:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by MMc  
This is a Prime lot there!



If it is a prime lot why all the sand around the entire area except for the abandoned house. I don't even see any utility poles.

rts551 - 1-26-2018 at 07:56 AM

This is a nice large ocean view lot. No utilities yet. Most of us use solar and water storage tanks (water is 1 mile away). Taxes are relatively low...do not sweat them. Community is outstanding. Make an offer if you think the price is too high...If he does not like the offer, no will not hurt you.

BigBearRider - 1-26-2018 at 09:09 AM

The negative comments seem unnecessary. The seller invest $60K in the lot. He's now willing to accept less.

David Nuevo - 1-26-2018 at 12:06 PM



"Taxes and the Fideiocomiso are the cost of ownership. Taxes did nothing to improve the property. You are trying to recoop money from a bad investment sounds like to me."

So...the "cost of ownership" isn't part of what someone has in a property?? And where does it say that it's an improved lot? And it's "recoup", unless you're trying to relocate your chickens. Thanks for your input...

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woody with a view - 1-26-2018 at 07:30 PM

Its a good spot. All you tire kickers move along. If you surf dont stop! If you dont surf dont start!

mtgoat666 - 1-26-2018 at 07:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
This is a nice large ocean view lot. y.


Large? Its 20 m wide. Small in my book.
Nice location, just a bit small. All that open space and postage-stamp size lots?

David Nuevo - 1-26-2018 at 08:18 PM

Sorry...I forgot to mention it's "only" about 13,000 sq. ft.

willardguy - 1-26-2018 at 08:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
This is a nice large ocean view lot. y.


Large? Its 20 m wide. Small in my book.
Nice location, just a bit small. All that open space and postage-stamp size lots?


is this goat fellow adorable or what! :lol:

Howard - 1-27-2018 at 06:52 AM

Ignore all the ignorant tire kickers and good luck with your sale. Why is it all the non buyers are first to jump on the negative bandwagon? Jealousy or really board with their lives?

rts551 - 1-27-2018 at 08:03 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
This is a nice large ocean view lot. y.


Large? Its 20 m wide. Small in my book.
Nice location, just a bit small. All that open space and postage-stamp size lots?


And just how much beach front do you own?

Mexitron - 1-27-2018 at 12:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
Its a good spot. All you tire kickers move along. If you surf dont stop! If you dont surf dont start!


I liked it better before there were any houses there, camp on the bluff, pero, es la vida.

David Nuevo - 1-27-2018 at 01:29 PM

Okay, Take 2: I'm willing to accept that the cost of ownership expenses might not be considered as part of an investment. Rookie mistake; my bad...I've never sold property before. That said, I will reduce the asking price to $50K/OBO - still substantially lower than what I paid. As for the other alleged issues: I had no control over how the municipio/ejido laid out the lot sizes, so...sorry for the"postage-stamp" dimensions; it's what is considered a full-size lot there.
There is sand all around it because it's in the Vizcaino Desert, which is what deserts are generally made of. Every single "developed" property looked exactly like this when purchased - it's called a blank slate. It's not a "bad investment", just one I don't want anymore. I've owned it since 2010, and it has become clear to me that at my age (70, if you must know) I'm never going to develop it. So, just because I'm moving on, and it might not check all your boxes, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a dream opportunity for someone else. Lastly, let me assure all of you that I'm not some sketchy scammer - Abreojos has seen its share of those! - I'm proud to say that I have a very respectable 40+ year history in Abreojos. Now...everybody happy?

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BajaBlanca - 1-27-2018 at 01:49 PM

Folks, this is such a beautiful location for a home! walking the beach in front is just wonderful. It is off the grid - everyone uses solar there. The neighbors are really nice. Very few live there all year round so it is quiet as well.

My student Ramiro's dad (also Ramiro) does construction and I have been told he is good.

If I could split myself in two, one part would stay here in La Bocana and the other half would be right at that beach in La Baliza.


David Nuevo - 1-27-2018 at 02:57 PM

Gracias, Blanca - you're hired!

rts551 - 1-27-2018 at 04:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David Nuevo  
Okay, Take 2: I'm willing to accept that the cost of ownership expenses might not be considered as part of an investment. Rookie mistake; my bad...I've never sold property before. That said, I will reduce the asking price to $45K/OBO - still substantially lower than what I paid. As for the other alleged issues: I had no control over how the municipio/ejido laid out the lot sizes, so...sorry for the"postage-stamp" dimensions; it's what is considered a full-size lot there.
There is sand all around it because it's in the Vizcaino Desert, which is what deserts are generally made of. Every single "developed" property looked exactly like this when purchased - it's called a blank slate. It's not a "bad investment", just one I don't want anymore. I've owned it since 2010, and it has become clear to me that at my age (70, if you must know) I'm never going to develop it. So, just because I'm moving on, and it might not check all your boxes, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a dream opportunity for someone else. Lastly, let me assure all of you that I'm not some sketchy scammer - Abreojos has seen its share of those! - I'm proud to say that I have a very respectable 40+ year history in Abreojos. Now...everybody happy?


Postage Stamp? Can't have much more than that in a fidieocomiso anyway. Some don't seem to understand that.

MMc - 1-27-2018 at 08:15 PM

This place is so nice, If were looking to move to Abreojos I would be all over this. Great town, great beach, great fishing, surf is good too. I understand keeping track of your cost when it comes to owning anything.

rts551 - 1-27-2018 at 08:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
... (water is 1 mile away).
That from the municipal water supply? Where's the town's water come from?


Yes...dump station at the municipal storage tank. Water is piped in from Vizcaino via Asuncion.

David Nuevo - 1-27-2018 at 08:20 PM

Water is piped down from Vizcaino into a large pila and from there to houses in town. It must be trucked out to La Baliza, either with your own trailer or by one of a few enterprising guys in town. Either way, it's extremely inexpensive.

willardguy - 1-27-2018 at 08:28 PM

I can't believe you can buy an oceanfront lot in Abreojo's for $45K! anyone tried sinking a well?

David Nuevo - 1-27-2018 at 08:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
I can't believe you can buy an oceanfront lot in Abreojo's for $45K! anyone tried sinking a well?
All you'd get is saltwater.

David Nuevo - 1-28-2018 at 07:28 AM

More like 90-100 miles. Until a few years ago, a gov't.-run Diesel-powered desalination plant supplied potable water, but it was abandoned when the pipeline was established.

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Ateo - 1-28-2018 at 07:55 AM

If only this was available 10 years from now...........I'd be on it. =)

woody with a view - 1-28-2018 at 11:03 AM

^^^what he said^^^

willardguy - 1-28-2018 at 11:28 AM

wish I would have built there instead of the other side!:light:

rts551 - 1-28-2018 at 12:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
wish I would have built there instead of the other side!:light:



Surfing, fishing, beach combing, and generally relaxing. Good, friendly people in town. Great climate. Off-grid is not that big a deal and various contractors to choose from if wanting to build.

The first couple of years after the subdivision was created prices escalated...but since then have been relatively stable.

Downside...It can get windy...and for those that enjoy bars and restaurants, they are far and few between. The night life consists of the town's social activities.

The other thing I have seen is people get all excited, buy and then find the 600 plus mile trip to get there daunting and they lose interest.

Just my take on things.

PS
New Dave's lot is a good deal relative to what other sellers want.

David Nuevo - 1-28-2018 at 04:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David Nuevo  
More like 90-100 miles.
Ah, then it actually originates nearer the coast than (the community of) Vizcaino? You know what the source is? Does that same aqueduct feed all the coastal communities from Bahía Tortugas to Abreojos? :wow:

It comes from the aquifer up there. I based the distance estimate on the fact that it's about an 85 mile drive from Abreojos to Vizcaino, but part of it is the 50 mi. out to Mex 1 first, so maybe the pipeline is shorter. Not sure about Tortugas, but it definitely comes via Asuncion and down the coast. Abreojos is the last town in the chain.

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woody with a view - 1-28-2018 at 04:42 PM

David Nuuhiwa makes this lot worth more than the tire kickers can comprehend!:light:

rts551 - 1-28-2018 at 04:43 PM

Same pumping system feeds all the Pacific communities from Bahia Tortugas to Punta Abreojos. The wells fed Asuncion and Bahia Tortugas for many years. 2-3 years ago the system was expanded south along the coastline from Asuncion to Punta Abreojos (65 miles) interconnecting all the coastal communities. The wells are to the west of Vizcaino and can be seen along the hwy (about 15 miles as I remember right).

David Nuevo - 1-28-2018 at 06:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
David Nuuhiwa makes this lot worth more than the tire kickers can comprehend!:light:
Wait til they find out I'm not even a goofy-foot.

woody with a view - 1-28-2018 at 06:06 PM

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

gnukid - 1-28-2018 at 08:08 PM

Everyone loves the beach there

Ateo - 1-29-2018 at 08:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
David Nuuhiwa makes this lot worth more than the tire kickers can comprehend!:light:


Was thinking the same thing about 10 seconds ago.............

David Nuevo - 1-29-2018 at 01:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
2-3 years ago the system was expanded south along the coastline from Asuncion to Punta Abreojos (65 miles) interconnecting all the coastal communities. The wells are to the west of Vizcaino and can be seen along the hwy (about 15 miles as I remember right).

Thanks.

It sounds like it indeed is well over 100 miles long. What an amazing-- and delicate-- lifeline.
In a pinch, a pipa (water truck) can be summoned from La Bocana or San Ignacio.

rts551 - 1-29-2018 at 01:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David Nuevo  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
2-3 years ago the system was expanded south along the coastline from Asuncion to Punta Abreojos (65 miles) interconnecting all the coastal communities. The wells are to the west of Vizcaino and can be seen along the hwy (about 15 miles as I remember right).

Thanks.

It sounds like it indeed is well over 100 miles long. What an amazing-- and delicate-- lifeline.
In a pinch, a pipa (water truck) can be summoned from La Bocana or San Ignacio.


And every town has a storage facility and most houses store water (2 to 5000 ltrs or more)

DianaT - 1-29-2018 at 06:27 PM

In Bahia Asunción we always had two tinacos with enough water for two weeks for the house --- not enough for much laundry, however.

We also kept several of those big blue barrels full all the time for watering the yard and washing dogs. And we had extra large bottles of drinking water for us and the dogs.

The pipe and pumps coming from Vizcaino are old and do break down--- just need to be prepared, It is just of part of living there.

Abreojos is a great place and that looks like a great lot. We often wished we had chosen Abreojos.





[Edited on 1-30-2018 by DianaT]