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Phosphate Mine News.

Beagle - 5-19-2018 at 03:43 AM

Pretty sure this is the one off of Scorps.

http://www.miningweekly.com/article/mexican-federal-court-ok...

chippy - 5-19-2018 at 05:28 AM

This is what they show.

https://www.odysseyminerals.com/current-projects

Paco Facullo - 5-19-2018 at 07:24 AM

It's never "good" to disturb Mother Nature.

David K - 5-19-2018 at 07:28 AM

This one is very visual on how and where they will dredge the underwater sand, over 20 miles from the coast: http://www.dondiego.mx/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/DD_NTSing_...

Paco Facullo - 5-19-2018 at 08:13 AM

I just read what David posted and it "looks" like they did their research and it will not cause much harm. ( I just hope it's all true ) and if so good for them.
The need for phosphate is truly there.

chippy - 5-19-2018 at 08:35 AM

The only problem is these mining companies always paint a rosey picture and are usually the worst abusers of the planet. :light:

elgatoloco - 5-19-2018 at 09:35 AM

Mining comes in different forms. Mining via dredge is different then some other types of surface mining. Science is good. I have read the report and this project has my stamp of approval. :saint:

tecatero - 5-20-2018 at 03:39 AM

this is horrible news....No good comes out of churning the ocean floor for phosphate. The plume of muck will travel and disturb an area bigger than they or we know.. The Bay of Uoloa is a very fragile environment that has been fished by local co-ops for years. Turtles in that area,,,,,done,,,,,Whales are yet to see what happens. The only thing that will stop this will be a big NW current pushing all the muck down the peninsula and affect the Cabo/todos region. If that happens then the pug will be puled. 10 years of persistent payoffs and they somehow got approval. They made a Mexican packed celebrity video speaking out against this project 3 years ago and it stopped it,,,,,$$$$$$ is stronger than words.....good luck mother ocean !

Paco Facullo - 5-20-2018 at 06:38 AM

Well it looks like the public's being hornswoggled once again by the need for economic advancement.

David K - 5-20-2018 at 08:18 AM

The link showed new tech on managing the plume so the situation tecatero described is not the case, so much. Naturally, any mining is not without consequences.

StraighouttaOside - 5-21-2018 at 08:49 AM

This is horrible news. I imagine this will ruin water quality and kill fragile wildlife/ecosystem for a huge stretch of coastline in that area. Mining companies always have bullchit environmental impact reports from scientists that they pay to say what they need them to say...

The map they have on their website shows the mining happening right off shore of Las Barrancas, literally right offshore....

https://www.odysseyminerals.com/current-projects?lightbox=da...

David K - 5-21-2018 at 09:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by StraighouttaOside

This is horrible news. I imagine this will ruin water quality and kill fragile wildlife/ecosystem for a huge stretch of coastline in that area. Mining companies always have bullchit environmental impact reports from scientists that they pay to say what they need them to say...

The map they have on their website shows the mining happening right off shore of Las Barrancas, literally right offshore....

https://www.odysseyminerals.com/current-projects?lightbox=da...

Wrong map, the dredging proposal it is not right offshore...

There are other maps that actually show the planned mine region, and it is far out to see (20+ miles). The map you posted is the area they are calling Don Diego Tenement. See page 5 the actual map of the mining strip, 40 kms. offshore: http://www.dondiego.mx/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/DD_NTSing_...

tecatero - 5-22-2018 at 05:58 AM

By the time they shut this down, I imagine the miners will have harvested 4 million metric ton of phosphate, profits made, so who cares. The ocean will need 100 years to recover form this

bajaric - 5-22-2018 at 04:22 PM

Sounds like a bad idea. Strip mining, underwater.

Who knew Morocco was the phosphate capital of the world,
learn something every day --

woody with a view - 5-23-2018 at 06:16 AM

7+ billion humans sucking oxygen and every one of them wants the latest gadget or doo-dad. Come down off your soap boxes and embrace your hipocracy!

Paco Facullo - 5-23-2018 at 07:38 AM

Yes ,Woody the population of this earth is akin to locust, devouring all natural resources in it's path with the added pollution it creates as a bonus.

Not to worry as Mother Nature always finds a way to deal with such things..
Like a good pandemic or asteroid for instance......

Heck, Man could also get in on the act with a nice nuclear war.

StraighouttaOside - 5-23-2018 at 04:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by StraighouttaOside

David K you are correct on the fact that I was looking at the wrong map. 20 miles offshore still isn't far enough offshore to keep this project from doing some damage...

Swell, currents, and wind will carry the debris from dredging all over Baja Sur....

David K - 5-23-2018 at 04:49 PM

Probably, as it isn't a perfect world for us humans. Look at homeowners on the southeast part of Hawaii's Big Island!

Where should phosphate come from if not out at sea? In the end, it is Mexico's deal and decision, right?

SFandH - 5-23-2018 at 05:39 PM

The first paragraph of the article linked to in the original post states that the Superior Court overturned a previous denial of the environmental permit.

I wonder what organization denied the environmental permit and why.

Could it be environmental considerations were overruled by bu$ine$$ considerations?

That doesn't happen, does it?

[Edited on 5-24-2018 by SFandH]