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Weather and water report for midriffs

pescadorrr - 6-16-2018 at 11:52 AM

Hi everybody,

This is my first post here so please forgive me it it’s in the wrong location.

A friend and I have been planning a free dive trip down to the islands off San Francisquito.
We were planning on trailering a boat down and putting in at BOLA this weekend. It looks like hurricane Bud may have pushed some hot water up the Cortez.
Here are my concerns:

1. Based on my experience with really warm water around the islands of San Lorenzo, Salsipuedes, Guardian Angel, etc., it seems like once the water is over 72 degrees, most of the reef fish (cabrilla, grouper, etc) and even the yellows get out of dodge or go down way too deep for us. Can anyone speak to this? I have gone there two years in a row in June. 2013 it was great. 2014 it seemed like there were no fish. The water was super hot. We even saw 80 degree water in some spots.
3. Red tide. Does anyone know how far south the red tide goes?
4. At what temperature do the cabrilla start to go down?

I do know that there usually is a pretty good thermocline down arond the islands around San Lorenzo, but I am not sure if the typical upwelling and currents that keeps the traditonal cool water and reef fish around, will be enough to keep the hot hurricane water out. We just don't want to waste our time and effort to chase firecracker yellows and small quantities of reef fish in really green water.

Any advice would be appreciated.


[Edited on 6-16-2018 by pescadorrr]

David K - 6-16-2018 at 12:38 PM

Welcome to Nomad!
The host (Doug, aka 'BajaNomad') may move the posts for you to the Q & A forum if he feels that is more appropriate. Don't worry... you will get plenty of advice! I was at all the places you are thinking of last year, but not to fish or dive... just to drive the roads and see what was there. My 2017 trip reports on Nomad are full of photos.

DaliDali - 6-16-2018 at 03:53 PM

Year in and year out.....the waters in the Bay area are much cooler than any part of the Sea of Cortez.....due to deep water upwelling in the Salsipuedes channel.

One would think that the farther you go south, the warmer the water...not true and that is why the yellowtail fishing is good in the summer months....no 85 degree water.

Not sure if your aware of it......but a gringo couple were just murdered there while trying to thwart a boat theft.
And I don't think the culprits have been nabbed.

Not to deter you at all.....just an aviso.

Look at Tempbreak.com....even today, June 16th, the water temps in and around the bay are in the low 70s with warmer water just to the south.

Bud was a low grade tropical depression by the time it make its way into the Sea.....what I am unsure of is how fast the Salsipuedes channel upwells of cooler water can vanquish any warm water.

I would recommend you go to https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/forum/baja-mexico-fishing-...

There are many topics and reports there from fisherfolks who frequent the bay often.
Let that be your guide

AKgringo - 6-16-2018 at 04:08 PM

I can't help with fishing advice, but about Bud, he lost strength for lack of warm water. If anything, I suspect the water would be slightly cooler after he passed over it and mixed things up.

JZ - 6-16-2018 at 04:51 PM

We fished in March out at the reef by sail rock, 40 miles North of BoLA, and the fish were jumping in the boat.