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Dude, you are seriously out of touch

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

What a waste of time and money making these big meth busts. The only thing this does is get drug addicts to turn to more dangerous drugs like Heroin, and also turn to the most dangerous drug in the world, which is alcohol! I can't wait till new Mexican President, López Obrador, starts in office, so he will put a stop to the losing American or Mexican "war on drugs." _____________________________ Drug experts say alcohol worse than crack or heroin https://www.reuters.com/article/us-drugs-alcohol/drug-expert...

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

and also turn to the most dangerous drug in the world, which is alcohol!

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner

Dude, you are seriously out of touch I have chaired the board of a rehab center for the past 8 years. We would rather have a guy shoot up heroin in our lunchroom than see evidence of meth on his person. Meth is Death!!!

The Bajarunner, do you have a link to back up what you're saying? I ask because I'm tired of "Baja Nomad" members, claiming they have some type of specialized alleged credentials on certain topics as if that's supposed to end the debate.

Now actually I was just repeating what the Lancer study said, about alcohol being the most dangerous drug in the world, and from looking at the rankings, both Meth and Heroin are pretty close, as they are both bad addicted drugs, but usually Heroin ranks a little higher on many scales.

My other main point was the "war of drugs" is a losing war, and a waste of time and money.

In the early 2000's around 2005, the US was pretty successful, at stopping the buying of the legal ingredients to making meth, like many of the cold medicines, so the drug dealers, switch to selling heroin once again, and we now have all those deaths involving heroin overdose, or death by heroin like Fentanyl, that's laced in these drugs, and we have the opioid crisis.

But now meth is also back with a vengeance because the Mexican cartels, can easily provide cheap meth, to Americans, and their never ending insatiable appetite for drugs.

Here is one of my links that shows the drug ranking of the most dangerous drugs:




https://www.vox.com/2015/2/24/8094759/alcohol-marijuana

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

What a waste of time and money making these big meth busts. The only thing this does is get drug addicts to turn to more dangerous drugs like Heroin, and also turn to the most dangerous drug in the world, which is alcohol! I can't wait till new Mexican President, López Obrador, starts in office, so he will put a stop to the losing American or Mexican "war on drugs." _____________________________ Drug experts say alcohol worse than crack or heroin https://www.reuters.com/article/us-drugs-alcohol/drug-expert...

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

The Bajarunner, do you have a link to back up what you're saying? I ask because I'm tired of "Baja Nomad" members, claiming they have some type of specialized alleged credentials on certain topics as if that's supposed to end the debate. Now actually I was just repeating what the Lancer study said, about alcohol being the most dangerous drug in the world, and from looking at the rankings, both Meth and Heroin are pretty close, as they are both bad addicted drugs, but usually Heroin ranks a little higher on many scales. My other main point was the "war of drugs" is a losing war, and a waste of time and money. In the early 2000's around 2005, the US was pretty successful, at stopping the buying of the legal ingredients to making meth, like many of the cold medicines, so the drug dealers, switch to selling heroin once again, and we now have all those deaths involving heroin overdose, or death by heroin like Fentanyl, that's laced in these drugs, and we have the opioid crisis. But now meth is also back with a vengeance because the Mexican cartels, can easily provide cheap meth, to Americans, and their never ending insatiable appetite for drugs. Here is one of my links that shows the drug ranking of the most dangerous drugs: https://www.vox.com/2015/2/24/8094759/alcohol-marijuana

Don't be Dumb - Stick with that Demon Rum.

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

Liquor is an Elixir. Good for the body and the soul. Healthy and good-tasting, too. In moderation. Unlike just about EVERY other drug on any lists, non-addicting to other than the weak or defective. Speaking of which ...................... Time for a Stella Artois. Maybe (or not) even two before nightfall.

The Problem Lies with the People.

Quote: Originally posted by redmercury

Alcohol is not a drug. It is a food, a carbohydrate. If you were on a desert island with nothing but alcoholic beverages to consume, it would keep you alive. None of the other items on the list, with the possible exception of mushrooms, would help you stay alive. I have no idea how butane got in the list.

It used to get cooked up in the rural areas of the states ... appears they® must have gotten some degree of control ... with the replacement cook shops now in Mexico

Difficult to understand the desire to go down that road as a "user"

How a Common Fertilizer Became a Meth Magnet

https://modernfarmer.com/2013/05/how-a-common-fertilizer-bec...

I hear they® are rather harsh when it comes to penalties in some nations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_drug_tr...


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World Drug Report Reveals The Staggering Extent Of North America's Meth Problem

https://www.businessinsider.com/north-america-has-a-massive-...

Looking at the numbers ... would appear to be only growing

Well maybe that will take care of over population ... Not sure about the social costs, going that way



[Edited on 9-23-2018 by BajaNomad]