BajaNomad - Bed and Breakfest anyone?

Sounds great Mike.
Is the price is per person, double occupancy?

Double occupancy.

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 10:20 AM

It will be very picturesque. I will start my plant nusery there in the camp and find some mature trees that I can bring in and make each spot pretty and private.
Right on the bay. So nice.
Plenty of space and super quiet there.
Plenty of shelter from the wind from the ajacent houses, usually empty...

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 10:27 AM

We are gated and fenced and guarded.
There is a Night Watchmen who lives nearby in a camper.
And a fulltime caretaker lives the too with his family.
Very secure. Safe.
The Army is at the end of my road, at the highway.
I hear the respond very quickly when called...
But I have never needed them or anyone else. I'm usually the only one there.

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by fishbuck]

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 11:02 AM

My friend Corey is coming with me. And my new girl who I will probably marry.

Corey is the best natural halibut fisherman there is. He is a Newport/Mesa native and grew on on the sand.
He is vegan and is able to subsistance fish even here.
He is a former racecar driver and is a Beemer/Merc master mechanic. 31 years old.
Corey's family owns a small beach resort compound over near Puertecitos.
So we have atleast 1 beachfront casita that we will rent out too.
I'll fly you over from my place.
They have a good long runway there. Easy.

Linda, my girl, is retired with me. She is a Ca. State licensed Physician's Assistant and has had some high power jobs. She is solid and a good counterweight to my somewhat mercurial demeanor.
She is helping me greatly. A keeper.
A angel sent to me by God.

So... let's fish.

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by fishbuck]

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 11:14 AM

Corey's brother, Mike, is a Marine Biologist at Cal State Long Beach.
The best fishing gear rigger on this planet.
He has been signing on any boat that will get him out to the Bluefin.
But so far he has only brought home piles of Yellowtail, Yellowfin, Mahi.
He's going out tomorrow and some of the bluefin are now at 300lbs.

He is helping me with my Tilapia Ranch..

So I'll fly him down when he has time...
He also has a six pack license...

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by fishbuck]

shari - 11-2-2018 at 11:47 AM

Sounds like you're on a roll amigo! Go for it and enjoy the ride.

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 11:51 AM

I'm including you in.
Airplane rides for Juan and Shari... and extended family member's.
"Will fly for fish"...
I make deliveries...

I'll meet you at the border gate and have a car waiting...
You'll need to get a tourist visa there.
They will ask later wherever we land. And a passport or card.
The plane and I will already be legal and ready
I think I can make it straight shot to Guerro Negro.
About 4 hours.
We can make a stop or 2.
Have to go to Loreto 1st for gas unless G.N. has it... use to have it...

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by fishbuck]

David K - 11-2-2018 at 01:39 PM

OK, so that will be choices of $50, $60, or $100 per night?
Maybe offer all three price choices with these as options:
A=Room+ breakfast is $50
B=Room+ breakfast & dinner is $60
C=Room+ breakfast, dinner, and tour is $100.
:?:

Just thinking out loud!

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 01:56 PM

OK, so that will be choices of $50, $60, or $100 per night?
Maybe offer all three price choices with these as options:
A=Room+ breakfast is $50
B=Room+ breakfast & dinner is $60
C=Room+ breakfast, dinner, and tour is $100.
:?:

Just thinking out loud!

You're a good thinker!

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 02:02 PM

Dinner at the camp, Jardine's, Old Mill, Cirlito Lindo, Oysterio...
Where ever you want.
Linda has a big Buick that I 'm using as my limo.
Corey has a diesel Merc that we're turning into a "Rally Car". A big boxey yellow one. I think it has a turbo...
Or you can have a quiet dinner at camp...
Around a camp fire... and a cook...

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by fishbuck]

David K - 11-2-2018 at 02:02 PM

Just thinking out loud!

You're a good thinker!

Only some of the time! LOL
The numbers may be too low at 25, 30, 50 per person with meals... Just crunch the numbers and check with other B&Bs in Baja for what works: Baja's Best (El Rosario), Ignacio Springs (San Ignacio), and there is Blanca in La Bocana and Shari in Asuncion... but I don't think they include breakfast anymore?

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by David K]

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 02:06 PM

Keeping it cheap and simple...
But as elegant and comfortable as is possible...

caj13 - 11-2-2018 at 02:10 PM

vegans eat fish?

bajaBEATS - 11-2-2018 at 03:07 PM

yo b, you gotta lotta squirrels runnin around that coco.

Bubba - 11-2-2018 at 03:22 PM

[He has been signing on any boat that will get him out to the Bluefin.
But so far he has only brought home piles of Yellowtail, Yellowfin, Mahi.
He's going out tomorrow and some of the bluefin are now at 300lbs.
[Edited on 11-2-2018 by fishbuck][/rquote]

Pacific Dawn just got 17 Cow BFT for 17 Anglers on a day and a half trip. Go get some!

Phil C - 11-2-2018 at 03:49 PM

Where do I sign up?

mtgoat666 - 11-2-2018 at 04:10 PM

I am thinking of renting yerts on my fish camp.
All set up. Cots, clean sheets, etc.

I am living in a house nearby so it will be open for use during the day.
Big breakfest spread in the morning.
Rides into town daily.
4 x 4 pinics to the San Quintin point or the mountains. I have an F-350 Offroad. I can mount bench seats in the back. Seat belts and all. It has a Roll bar. You can stand up in the back offroad.
Complimentery inflatable boat rides around the bay.
Drive down, or I can pick you up at TJ International in my plane and back.
Curtesy car for all pilots who fly in.

I’m pretty sure it’s normally spelled “yurt.”

Put beds in the yurts. Cots are for tents. Yurts should be pretty deluxe accommodation. Put in hardwood floors, nice furniture, bathrooms, etc. and they would be good lodging.

If you want to be more minimalist, then go with cots in wall tents on platforms, and shared bathhouse.

San q gets cool at night, and cool in off season, so equip tents or yurts with oil or propane heaters.

[Edited on 11-2-2018 by mtgoat666]

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 04:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Yes, real beds and a reaised floor.

David K - 11-2-2018 at 05:11 PM

Raised floors are great as it can be so wet at San Quintin...
We really liked when Cielito Lindo (Dave and Juanita) Gypsy's RV Park was open with its INDOOR camping building... the early 2000s.

LancairDriver - 11-2-2018 at 05:25 PM

vegans eat fish?

Only if they cheat. Fish are not on their menu. Only plant based foods.

woody with a view - 11-2-2018 at 05:37 PM

For $25 (AND BREAKFAST!) I hope it’s clean between the sheets! Go big or you’ll never break even.

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 05:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

For $25 (AND BREAKFAST!) I hope it’s clean between the sheets! Go big or you’ll never break even.

I voted $50.
+$25 includes candlite dinner for 2. Vegan or Mexican.
+$25 harbor cruise to the bars on the bays.

Hundred... fullboat

David K - 11-2-2018 at 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

For $25 (AND BREAKFAST!) I hope it’s clean between the sheets! Go big or you’ll never break even.

For $50/ night, it shouldn't be a problem to have clean sheets! Not like that Cabanas Linda motel in Cataviña, right?

fishbuck - 11-2-2018 at 06:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

For $25 (AND BREAKFAST!) I hope it’s clean between the sheets! Go big or you’ll never break even.

For $50/ night, it shouldn't be a problem to have clean sheets! Not like that Cabanas Linda motel in Cataviña, right?

Guaranteed clean sheets. The staff will be on hand when you arrive. If you don't like the sheets we will clean.
I'm including clean towels and I'll set up a warm shower.

advrider - 11-2-2018 at 06:29 PM

Sounds like a good place for us moto guys to make a stop over, must have cold beer...

caj13 - 11-2-2018 at 06:34 PM

vegans eat fish?

Only if they cheat. Fish are not on their menu. Only plant based foods.

thats what I thought, but fishy boy says one of the superstars hes bringing in is a vegan that survives on subsistance fishing? just trying to figure out how that all works.

"Corey is the best natural halibut fisherman there is. He is a Newport/Mesa native and grew on on the sand.
He is vegan and is able to subsistance fish even here"

[Edited on 11-3-2018 by caj13]

pacificobob - 11-3-2018 at 07:49 AM

activating spell check is quick and easy on most devices.

fishbuck - 11-3-2018 at 08:01 AM

Quote: Originally posted by advrider

Sounds like a good place for us moto guys to make a stop over, must have cold beer...

Yes. Plus I am looking for a spot for a Vet track motocross ranch. Corey and I are thinking full half pipe too.
I thinking in the hills back by the Bien Pastor hospital. It has it's own runway.
I'll be my own med air evac if needed.

mtgoat666 - 11-3-2018 at 08:46 AM

vegans eat fish?

Only if they cheat. Fish are not on their menu. Only plant based foods.

thats what I thought, but fishy boy says one of the superstars hes bringing in is a vegan that survives on subsistance fishing? just trying to figure out how that all works.

Perhaps his superstar practices subsistence farming, and the “subsistence fishing” is to what he does to provide fertilizer for his garden. Would caching fish to fertilize garden qualify as vegan?

I suppose we will know after fishy opens his hotel and we can visit the vegan breakfast buffet he will provide to guests.

Bob and Susan - 11-3-2018 at 12:15 PM

lets do some simple math...

$50 rent
$9.5 tax
$3 wash towels and sheets
$8 breakfast
$25 one staff with benefits
$3 cleaning supplies and cleaning (water Dishes etc)
$4 one gallon gas and some propane
$-2.5 you are OUT of Business

chuckie - 11-3-2018 at 12:31 PM

Caching fish would certainly make fertilizer...

John Harper - 11-3-2018 at 12:48 PM

lets do some simple math...

$50 rent
$9.5 tax
$3 wash towels and sheets
$8 breakfast
$25 one staff with benefits
$3 cleaning supplies and cleaning (water Dishes etc)
$4 one gallon gas and some propane
$-2.5 you are OUT of Business

Good point, although a lot of those costs can diminish with volume. Your figures are only the cost of the 1st customer. Marginal costs should decrease with volume. You haven't included the investment in yurts, beds, etc. That first guest is the most expensive.

Fishbuck,

Perhaps you should calculate some of your costs before you decide on a pricing structure? You're going to have some sunk costs in the structures, beds, bedding, furniture, facilities, etc. Need to plan how to amortize those costs. Also, need some kind of estimate of your potential number of clients. How are you going to advertise? Any possible financing, so it's not all out of your pocket? Taxes, business licenses, citizenship issues regarding business ownership, local authorities, land use restrictions. Any of those could pop up and bite you in the arse.

We called that a "business plan" back in B school. Always nice to start with a solid, well critiqued, brutally realistic, and very conservative plan, don't be taken in by the "stars in your eyes." Your idea sounds wonderful, but you need a well thought out plan to maximize any chance of success.

At least you're looking at a business you can probably continue to do as you age out.

Notice that some folks have difficulty operating their businesses (or lose them) if they get too old or happen to be sick or injured. The private flying business seems particularly susceptible to age or illness issues for you as a pilot. Running a B&B is not as dependent on your physical abilities or health. That's a good thing for sure in your favor. BajaBlanca and shari seem to keep the lights on quite well.

John

[Edited on 11-3-2018 by John Harper]

fishbuck - 11-4-2018 at 11:05 AM

THANKYOU! The houses there rent for $100-200/night. More maybe.
You are on the fly-in list.
How close is a runway and a taxi cost there please. :bounce:

fishbuck - 11-4-2018 at 11:07 AM

This is my business plan. I'm researching market demand. Cost benefit analys :coolup:

is... etc

fishbuck - 11-4-2018 at 11:09 AM

You can eat what ever you want.
There is a brand new Calimex at the end of my driveway.

David K - 11-4-2018 at 12:23 PM

Bob, keep in mind that I asked Mike (Fishbuck) if that was a price for double occupancy only, and he said yes... So the room is $100 a night. The one staff with benefits, is for the whole complex unless each room has its own personal valet. Of course, if Mike only has one room rented a night, then yes, $25 of the $100 (not $50) is for staff.

If costs climb then don't include the cost of meals in the future.

mtgoat666 - 11-4-2018 at 03:46 PM

Bob, keep in mind that I asked Mike (Fishbuck) if that was a price for double occupancy only, and he said yes... So the room is $100 a night. The one staff with benefits, is for the whole complex unless each room has its own personal valet. Of course, if Mike only has one room rented a night, then yes, $25 of the $100 (not $50) is for staff.

If costs climb then don't include the cost of meals in the future.

A staff of one at $25/day is not going to do all the cooking, cleaning and maintenance. 25/day ain’t good pay for a competent do-it-all staff, and no employee will want to do it all. Does fishead cook, clean and maintain? How’s he going to have time to do that when he is going to be spending all his time as fishing guide and flying air ambulance for all the injured gringos from his motocross track with half pipe?

chuckie - 11-4-2018 at 04:37 PM

Superhuman effort...

David K - 11-4-2018 at 05:32 PM

Nobody said it would be a one employee operation. Bob & Susan can advise best as perhaps a similar-size operation (but vastly different accommodations/ clientele, probably). When we stayed there-there was one local woman who set up the breakfast in the morning and did housecleaning in the afternoon. That's what I recall. I think we were the only guests? So odd that a little heat scares folks from Baja in July!
See more of Bob & Susan's Playa Frambes Lighthouse Resort on Bahía Concepción: www.mulege.org

mtgoat666 - 11-4-2018 at 07:10 PM

its a little different nowdays...

The post-apocalypse landscaping isn’t my cup of tea. Why did u scrape the earth bare? You hate plants? You like dust?

The native plants of the desert are beautiful, a shame you to got rid of them.

caj13 - 11-5-2018 at 08:14 AM

the tree line in the back is the "salt line"

not too much grows in the salt

no plants were removed...only trash from years of abuse

Maybe Fishbucks private nursery he is starting could help. I know that finding stuff to grow in salt is difficult - but hey - fishy is creating a magical nirvana out of nothing but his imagination - so inventing salt tollerant trees should be no problem!

wilderone - 11-5-2018 at 08:39 AM

"double occupancy only" No sense in that, excluding solos. Price accordingly vis a vis number of guests, number of days, tours, meals, pick-up/delivery (a "package" deal). Especially in beginning stage of development, you'd want repeat business. You might even have a camp site or two - would be attractive with meals included, fishing boat available - flat price for a breakfast, dinner (de jour).

motoged - 11-5-2018 at 08:45 AM

vegans eat fish?

Only if they cheat. Fish are not on their menu. Only plant based foods.

Don't let facts or spelling get in the way of dreaming....i remember those days of Baja living fantasies....interesting to peek in on how others do it.... :coolup:

AKgringo - 11-5-2018 at 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

vegans eat fish?

Only if they cheat. Fish are not on their menu. Only plant based foods.

Don't let facts or spelling get in the way of dreaming....i remember those days of Baja living fantasies....interesting to peek in on how others do it.... :coolup:

Hijack continued; Do vegan mommies nurse their babies? A new definition of "plants" may be in order!

BajaTed - 11-5-2018 at 03:29 PM

Fishbuck, go forward.
We leased our villa in Bajamar for many years, we've hosted wedding parties, funerals, race teams, corporate events, etc.

Eventually, you will develop a core group of repeat customers. Always reward loyalty and make it special when you can.

Retired SoCal Rockwell/Boeing, we made rockets, not planes

caj13 - 11-6-2018 at 05:42 PM

so how do we cancel our reservations Fishy? looks like you have moved on from this pipedream, and are now going to buy Udo place - correct?

mtgoat666 - 11-6-2018 at 07:21 PM

so how do we cancel our reservations Fishy? looks like you have moved on from this pipedream, and are now going to buy Udo place - correct?

He has yurts for sale on craislist, still in boxes, never assembled!

caj13 - 11-6-2018 at 08:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

so how do we cancel our reservations Fishy? looks like you have moved on from this pipedream, and are now going to buy Udo place - correct?

He has yurts for sale on craislist, still in boxes, never assembled!

Oh cool, if i order 2 - he will deliver them for free in his airplane - right? I have a runway just across the street from me!

fishbuck - 11-7-2018 at 09:26 AM

You got a runway?
I deliver!

caj13 - 11-7-2018 at 09:43 AM

You got a runway?
I deliver!

Yes i do have a runway

Ironically the second part of your statement
"I deliver" is not true in any way shape or form, unless you count coming up with harebrained schemes with no intent of ever following through! - you deliver a lot of those!

fishbuck - 11-7-2018 at 09:48 AM

I was informed by the "Halibut Whisperer", my friend Corey, that a fish eating vegan is known as "Pescatarian".
It's part of our "beach culture" so you probably wouldn't understand.
You have to live it...

I know where there is a little yurt on the beach...

fishbuck - 11-7-2018 at 09:51 AM

You got a runway?
I deliver!

What is the name of your runway.
I will be making a goodwill tour of all open runways as soon as I can get it together.
It ain't easy or cheap so takes time to plan.
Please be patient. I'm working on it daily.

tobias - 11-7-2018 at 10:23 AM

I myself am a meat eating vegan also known as a carnist.

fishbuck - 11-7-2018 at 10:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by tobias

I myself am a meat eating vegan also known as a carnist.

Me too.

Paco Facullo - 11-7-2018 at 10:32 AM

Hell , I'll eat lamb, ram, sheep and mutt, bull, beef, bacon and bear ....

caj13 - 11-7-2018 at 12:19 PM