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SAN IGNACIO ON FIRE!

David K - 8-17-2019 at 06:00 PM

Just saw this on Facebook, thanks to Desert Bull...
Right now: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2217061911918741

David K - 8-17-2019 at 06:01 PM

It is on the highway side of the river (what can be seen), near Rice & Beans, in San Lino.

55steve - 8-17-2019 at 06:04 PM

Again...sad.

David K - 8-17-2019 at 06:06 PM

Spanish and English:

La Voz del Pacífico 91.3 FM is in San Ignacio, Baja California Sur.
1 hr · (5 pm PDT)

Nos informan de fuerte incendio en el palmar de San Lino, en San Ignacio Kadakaaman, se ocupa ayuda de unidades de bomberos de otras comunidades, hay hogares en las inmediaciones, familias ya fueron evacuadas. A la espera que se genere más información para ampliar.

#Actualización 18:30. Apoyo del Equipo Móvil del H. Cuerpo de Bomberos Industriales de Exportadora de Sal. SA de CV con 10 elementos, una pipa con capacidad de 10 mil litros unidad de ataque rápido de comando.

Video propiedad de Andrea Espinoza Liera.
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We are informed of strong fire in the palmar de San Lino, in San Ignacio Kadakaamán, it takes care of fire units from other communities, there are homes in the vicinity, families have already been evacuated. Waiting for more information to be generated to expand.

#Update 18:30. Support of the h mobile team. Industrial Fire Corps of salt exporter. Sa de CV with 10 elements, a pipe with capacity of 10 thousand liters fast commando attack unit.

Video owned by Andrea Espinoza Liera.

Paco Facullo - 8-17-2019 at 06:08 PM

Looks bad !
I wonder if there is much of a Bombaros Department there ? Probably not as it's such a small town.

Sure hope there's not much loss of property or any lives...

BajaRat - 8-17-2019 at 06:24 PM

Super Suck
The dry fronds will carry fire until out of fuel or continuity
Hearts out to San Ignacio
Lionel

BajaRat - 8-17-2019 at 06:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Looks bad !
I wonder if there is much of a Bombaros Department there ? Probably not as it's such a small town.

Sure hope there's not much loss of property or any lives...



Small department
Lionel

Whale-ista - 8-17-2019 at 07:42 PM

Sadly- this is an all-too-frequent event. One reason residents build with cinderblocks to keep loss of property to a minimum.

A few years ago I watched as a crew of volunteer firefighters explored setting up a series of pumps and pipes in properties along the shores of the oasis, to give residents and firefighters easier access to water. Not sure if it was ever installed.

One of the limits was lack of electricity in some of the areas to operate the pumps.

Mulege Canuck - 8-17-2019 at 07:49 PM

At my shack in Mulege, it is mandatory to remove all the dead palm fronds every couple of years. This would significantly reduce the fire hazard in towns with a lot of palm trees.

thebajarunner - 8-17-2019 at 08:12 PM

Sad indeed
That is such a sweet and mellow drive into town from the highway.

Palm fronds are real fuel monsters
I remember a few years ago when the Willis Palm Grove just north of Thousand Palms near Palm Springs burned
It lit up the sky for miles

AKgringo - 8-18-2019 at 06:53 AM

I hope everyone was able to get themselves and their critters out of the way! It is sure to do a lot of damage to many structures, but the palms themselves are likely to survive.

A year after the fire in the Comondus, I was amazed by the amount of new growth on those blackened trunks.

msteve1014 - 8-18-2019 at 07:58 AM

I have friends that live in San Lino. Their homes are ok but it is a mess. Phones are on and off, soot and smoke everywhere. Water has been spotty for a while also.

mtnpop - 8-18-2019 at 08:14 AM

Seems like there was a fire in that area 3 or 4 years ago also. If you choose to not keep the trees trimmed up it can easily happen.
Some developments are not letting palm roofs on casas be used anymore even with the casa being concrete.
If you have ever seen a palm roof get on fire you might think hard about having one even tho they really unique

BajaNomad - 8-18-2019 at 09:10 AM

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David K - 8-18-2019 at 09:24 AM

Thanks for updating the page with the photos and San Lino report.

AKgringo - 8-18-2019 at 09:31 AM

Thanks BajaNomad, dramatic photos indeed! Anybody else notice the guy in the third photo pushing the red truck out into the clearing?

del mar - 8-18-2019 at 09:34 AM

there was a huge fire in 2013, im guessing those palms must be pretty hearty?

AKgringo - 8-18-2019 at 10:03 AM

Before Baja, I used to travel to Manzanillo, in the state of Colima. There was a commercial palm grove there that produced both coconuts, and oil type palm nuts.
One year our arrival was just after a cyclona, and the palm grove looked like a telephone pole farm of topless trunks. On the next vist, two years later, it was back in production, just with a little shorter trees!


[Edited on 8-18-2019 by AKgringo]

Whale-ista - 8-18-2019 at 10:19 AM

Great photos! Thanks for the post and update.

Closer to home: the Palm Canyon trail in Anza Borrego State Park has good interpretive displays explaining the history and role of fire in the palm groves.

Indigenous people routinely used controlled fires to thin out the undergrowth/dead fronds and keep vermin under control, from the Baja region up to Joshua Tree. Fire scars are common on the older palm trunks- they survive so long as there is not enough fuel to "top" the palms and kill the live fronds growing at the top.

Does anyone know if there are "controlled burn" programs in Baja Sur, or any programs to help keep the fronds trimmed? It would be a lot of work at first, and a challenge to prevent the fire from spreading with so much fuel, but could be worthwhile in the long run.

Skipjack Joe - 8-18-2019 at 11:17 AM

Hopefully the Mission is saved. That would be a disaster.

David K - 8-18-2019 at 04:23 PM

Just in from Ignacio Springs on Facebook:

Ignacio Springs
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We are all safe. Had some damage. Who knew that Kayaks melt so quickly. Ha ha. We have the fire out, just watching for the hot spots, palms can smolder a long time. Had lots of help from the great community of San Ignacio, bless you all, We were right in the path of the fire so it was scary for a few hours. Little bit of a wind makes the fire spread and literally fly. Random palm on the property sustained a little damage. Couple of Yurts had some “hot ember” damage, but all our people and pets are safe.
Thank you everyone for your concern.
We are without internet at the moment as the lines are down, Hope it is restored soon. I will be checking my emails as I can. I need to come to town to get internet for now.
Thank you all.
P.s. Kayaks and paddle boards needed if anyone has some for sale or trade!
❤️

Mulege Fire?

chuckie - 8-18-2019 at 06:44 PM

How.. come no news on the big fire in Mulege.....Pics & stuff over on TB:?::?::?:

Sparetimewanted - 8-18-2019 at 07:33 PM

Not sure about a Mulege fire, but there is a bad one in San Ignacio.

BajaParrothead - 8-18-2019 at 08:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
How.. come no news on the big fire in Mulege.....Pics & stuff over on TB:?::?::?:

Chuckie, this may be what you're hearing. This is a copy from Gringo Gazette:
Oasis on Fire
At about 5:30 pm yesterday, dozens of hectares of palm trees were engulfed on fire at the San Ignacio oasis. San Ignacio is a palm oasis town in Mulegé, located on Mexican Federal Highway 1 between Guerrero Negro and Santa Rosalía. Firemen from Loreto, Santa Rosalia, Vizcaino and Guerrero Negro as well as members of the Civil Protection unit, the Navy, Army, Red Cross, City police and local residents fought for hours to put it out. There are no reports of injuries or damage to properties which were real close to the fire.
Phew!

David K - 8-18-2019 at 09:10 PM

Yes, Mulegé municipality (county).