BajaNomad

South bound crossing open?

BigBearRider - 3-21-2020 at 05:32 PM

I’d like to head down to my home. Is the Mexican border open?

thebajarunner - 3-21-2020 at 06:31 PM

Not sure about southbound, but BWT (Border Wait Time app) is showing all northbound stations open and San Luis is the only one with more than 10 minute waiting time.
All California ports showing 10 minutes or less.

CAUTION>>>>> I have found this app to be pretty inaccurate most of the time.

Bob and Susan - 3-21-2020 at 07:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
I’d like to head down to my home. Is the Mexican border open?


you could be patient 1 in your area....you could infect hundreds
stay home or bring food for a month to self quarantine and don't stop anywhere...not even to eat or sleep

be smart...
first case found in cabo today...English tourist

MexicoTed - 3-21-2020 at 07:19 PM

Yeah, unfortunately Cabo and Baja (and Mexico) chose the route of Florida and had Spring Breakers when the rest of the world was limiting international travel. I unfortunately think this first case will be the first of many in Baja. Just way too many visitors over the last week.

mtgoat666 - 3-21-2020 at 11:53 PM

It is irresponsible to be traveling now. Stay home. Don’t infect others. Don’t get infected.

Flatten the curve!

BigBearRider - 3-22-2020 at 04:22 AM

All fair points. My thought was that I could self-isolate in another paradise just as well as in the one I’m in now. But, most of my neighbors are seniors. So, perhaps it’s best to stay put, if for nothing else not to be accused of being irresponsible or being Patient Zero if people get sick. Thanks.

BigBearRider - 3-22-2020 at 04:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by MexicoTed  
Yeah, unfortunately Cabo and Baja (and Mexico) chose the route of Florida and had Spring Breakers when the rest of the world was limiting international travel. I unfortunately think this first case will be the first of many in Baja. Just way too many visitors over the last week.


Of course. From what I can tell, Mexico has done almost nothing to stop the spread. I assume it’s already prevalent, but there’s almost not testing to show it.

[Edited on 3-22-2020 by BigBearRider]

caj13 - 3-22-2020 at 07:58 AM

I fear Semana Santa will be Bajas big dispersal event! we shall see

elgatoloco - 3-22-2020 at 08:18 AM

This story is two days old.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-20/some-o...

MEXICO CITY — Each winter, some of Mexico’s wealthiest residents flock to the snowy slopes of Colorado to ski, shop and socialize.
This year, at least 14 — and probably many more — came home infected with the coronavirus. In a country that has not yet been hard hit by the pandemic, the travelers have become a focal point of efforts to prevent the virus from spreading widely. Several of Mexico’s most prominent business leaders — including a banking executive,the chairman of Mexico’s stock exchange and the chief executive of the company that makes Jose Cuervo tequila — tested positive for the virus after traveling to Vail.........

Public health authorities are now scrambling to find others who recently returned from the resort, including an estimated 400 people who flew on two charter planes from Colorado to the state of Jalisco.
“We need these people to understand that they have a very high probability of having acquired the virus and are a potential risk,” Jalisco Gov. Enrique Alfaro said in a video on Facebook in which he implored those who made the trip to contact health authorities. “We don’t want this to be the start of a major coronavirus spread,” added Fernando Petersen, Jalisco’s top health official. The state’s health department said that it has already contacted 73 passengers on those flights and that roughly 40% of them report coronavirus-like symptoms but have not yet been tested.
Of Jalisco’s 27 confirmed coronavirus patients, 11 had been in Vail in recent weeks........

But the total has been rising rapidly — from nine last week — and experts say the virus may have already begun to spread locally. They warn that a widespread outbreak could be especially devastating given the country’s low investment in healthcare and its high rates of poverty.
What would happen if the epidemic hit marginalized communities on the outskirts of Mexico City, where some lack running water and many live several to a room and wouldn’t have the space to self-quarantine? What would happen if it hit a rural village in Oaxaca, hours from the nearest hospital?

mtnpop - 3-22-2020 at 09:02 AM

I wish I could share my pictures of the beaches south of Mulege last year Semana Santa week taken from out on the water. If it is the same this year things will get bad in a hurry. They are crammed in wall to wall so to speak. then the trips to town for cervaza, ice, etc. just compounds the effect. They are not pretty pictures.
Tough enough to be stateside this year at 76 and needing some items from the market once in awhile and not knowing what to touch.
but so far so good.
60% alcohol baths folks. don't gargle with clorox or tide pods.
our late April trip south is now maybe someday....

Don Pisto - 3-22-2020 at 10:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
I’d like to head down to my home. Is the Mexican border open?


facebook travelers are reporting mexico welcoming everyone coming in with open arms....

azucena - 3-22-2020 at 11:25 AM

My understanding is that the border going south is closed to tourists and recreation. It is open for commerce, education, medical needs.
I presume if you are a Mexican citizen you could cross, just as if you are a US citizen you can cross north.

I do not know if you own property in Mexico if that would allow you to cross.
All that being said. My feeling is you should stay put. As noted above, first case in Los Cabos. If it gets a foothold here it will not be pretty, and you do not want to be sick here and need medical care.

BajaBlanca - 3-22-2020 at 02:20 PM

I have required ALL my students in Tj, Ensenada, Santa Rosalia, and La Paz to stay put or be dropped from the scholarship program.

Some are giving me flack but the buck stops here, it will be their and their families' choice. This is going to get so ugly here in Mexico. Except for schools being out here in Baja, there is no further action. I even called our mayor, who is a doctor, and asked him to educate locals on the dangers of bringing the kids home, to no avail.

Ignorance is not bliss, it is death.