BajaNomad - BC and BCS COVID-19 Active Cases

hey at least we're talking again.....
https://us.yahoo.com/news/u-mexico-resume-economic-talks-191...

Willard- Did you read that link? Kamala Harris is spearheading the talks about the economic recovery. That in itself is laughable considering the foreign policy decisions so far.
But I am glad some of us are out and enjoying tacos south of the border. I know I am.

motoged - 9-9-2021 at 01:29 PM

It's about giving hope that the world is/will get back to normal.

I have been told that "Hope is the icing on the turd".

But that likely sounds scary to some... so here is a sweeter thought:

"Hope Contains Change
..... hope is an odd thing in many ways. Hope does lift our eyes and spirit to the horizon ahead, and we need to adjust our view as a year ends and a new one is ahead. Within our hope, we see better days ahead, different opportunities, fresh attitudes to use, and new actions to take.

Hope contains change. The change embraces two aspects. First, we hope the environment we live in, work in will change in more productive, more meaningful ways. Second, we consider new seeds to plant ourselves in hopes we change the way we do certain things and new talents we wish to grow. Hope means we expect change and we drive change."
https://www.thindifference.com/2013/12/year-hope-and-change/

"Back to normal" is a pretty lame term for a goal when looking around we see so many fronts of social change that are occurring at an unusual rate....difficult for many to grasp.

I believe a "new normal" is being developed although none of us really knows what that will look like as it develops.

Not adjusting to such paradigm shifts understandably leaves many wanting things to regress so they can sit in the tepid bathwater enjoying the "way it was", rather than growing into present realities.

The "fear" is the heat caused by such shifts.... it is easy to see how "back to normal" is the fear of what is actually happening and not being sure how to respond to events and situations not previously experienced.

There are a range of roadmaps out there for such adjustments.... some look at how it "was" (predictable and safe = partying and "carefree"); some accept the changes and look for ways to adapt and thrive; some become self-proclaimed experts and self-indoctrinated in their stances. All paths offer some sense of stability and security.... at least in the short term.

Wishing and hoping for change requires actual effort, or it is only a form of mental masturbation.

Change is a concept indicating things will be different, not going back to how it was.

Some criteria for "hope":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope

[Edited on 9-9-2021 by motoged]

willardguy - 9-9-2021 at 01:33 PM

hey at least we're talking again.....
https://us.yahoo.com/news/u-mexico-resume-economic-talks-191...

of course I read it, like I said at least we're talking again, not building walls :yes:

Tioloco - 9-9-2021 at 01:37 PM

hey at least we're talking again.....
https://us.yahoo.com/news/u-mexico-resume-economic-talks-191...

of course I read it, like I said at least we're talking again, not building walls :yes:

I am sure old Joe and Kamala will fix everything right up just like they knocked out the Covid virus that Trump “mishandled” so badly. Come on, man!

willardguy - 9-9-2021 at 01:53 PM

hey at least we're talking again.....
https://us.yahoo.com/news/u-mexico-resume-economic-talks-191...

of course I read it, like I said at least we're talking again, not building walls :yes:

I am sure old Joe and Kamala will fix everything right up just like they knocked out the Covid virus that Trump “mishandled” so badly. Come on, man!

OMG

....and the Chinese communist party owns the Biden family! you and Dave, whats wrong with you people?

Bajaboy - 9-9-2021 at 02:03 PM

It's about giving hope that the world is/will get back to normal.

God works in mysterious ways :lol:

Just keep thinking positive thoughts and it will all magically get back to normal :lol:

Such simpleton thinking!

David K - 9-9-2021 at 02:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Hopefully this is good news, unless you enjoy the controls.
How long before they 'invent' a new variant to keep this drama going?

how long before you "invent" yet another way to embarrass yourself even more :?:

I am a retired grandfather of 6... I am way past getting embarrassed by the childish games played here. Do you think Delta is where it ends? I don't.
I will just wait! Maybe this wait will last long enough that the sea level finally touches the palm tree! :lol:

JZ - 9-9-2021 at 02:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy

God works in mysterious ways :lol:

Just keep thinking positive thoughts and it will all magically get back to normal :lol:

Such simpleton thinking!

Why are you rooting for the virus? I'll never understand that mentality.

I'm vaxxed. My family is vaxxed. We are 100% back to normal.

Flying on planes, going to football games, going to Baja. Try it some time. Life is short and not meant to be spent holed up in the basement.

[Edited on 9-9-2021 by JZ]

Tioloco - 9-9-2021 at 02:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy

God works in mysterious ways :lol:

Just keep thinking positive thoughts and it will all magically get back to normal :lol:

Such simpleton thinking!

JZ- Pedaling fear allows the grabbing of power. I am with you. Glad I have my life back to normal and am enjoying every day.

ligui - 9-9-2021 at 02:50 PM

David i just saw your reply to what I wrote. Glad you are home and have had your shot.
What don't understand is why you and others keep making this a political thing ?

It's killing people. Stop crying about the govt trying to control us. They are trying to stop fools from giving out misinformation and want us to get a shot to keep us safe and our neighbors safe.

Very simple not political

Tioloco - 9-9-2021 at 02:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ligui

David i just saw your reply to what I wrote. Glad you are home and have had your shot.
What don't understand is why you and others keep making this a political thing ?

It's killing people. Stop crying about the govt trying to control us. They are trying to stop fools from giving out misinformation and want us to get a shot to keep us safe and our neighbors safe.

Very simple not political

Ligui- Having been vaccinated myself, I must point out that Dr Fauci has made many dishonest statements which have fueled the distrust for the process. To call those that are skeptical “fools” is not a very intellectually honest viewpoint. I dont see people “crying” about the government controlling them. If you have read history you will remember why the USA exists in the first place. Blind trust of government mandates is the only foolish thing in this thread.

JZ - 9-9-2021 at 02:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ligui

This is an extremely naive rant. Of course it is political. The MSM made it political from day one.

[Edited on 9-9-2021 by JZ]

SFandH - 9-9-2021 at 03:20 PM

John- Your age is apparently inhibiting your ability to remain open minded and objective. Or your lack of understanding is a reflection of your being a public employee for life. Just doing what you are told, perhaps.

Isn't John a teacher? Did you just insult a teacher for the work he does?

[Edited on 9-9-2021 by SFandH]

Tioloco - 9-9-2021 at 03:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

Isn't John a teacher? Did you just insult a teacher for the work he does?

[Edited on 9-9-2021 by SFandH]

SFH- I was a public employee in my younger years. The fact that all government employees are compelled to do what they are told is not intended as an insult. It is a reality.
The private sector is an incubator for critical thought.
Hope that you understand the difference.

Bajaboy - 9-9-2021 at 03:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy

God works in mysterious ways :lol:

Just keep thinking positive thoughts and it will all magically get back to normal :lol:

Such simpleton thinking!

I just got back from a swim in the ocean. Very refreshing! You should try it some time. The difference is I was with my family and not around other people. I respect the mainstream doctors and their mainstream advice.

I get the idea your team has some responsibility for instances such as this:
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/08/1035157226/miami-covid-19-dea...

Alm - 9-9-2021 at 06:21 PM

Tell me again what I am missing… As Covid resurges under Bidens watch.

Anti-vaxing mentality is getting in the way. Enough vaccine for everybody, 60% are vaccinated, put 2 and 2 together. How much credit for this should be given Trump is hard to tell, but he sure contributed.

This wave would've come with 100% vaccinated, thanks to Delta. But with much lower numbers and hospitals not overwhelmed.

motoged - 9-9-2021 at 06:52 PM

Tell me again what I am missing… As Covid resurges under Bidens watch.

That's easy: Unvaccinated are driving the resurgence. Trump influenced his Trumpsters to disbelieve and/or minimize the pandemic and science.

What about that did you miss?

[Edited on 9-10-2021 by motoged]

motoged - 9-9-2021 at 06:56 PM

JZ- Pedaling fear allows the grabbing of power. I am with you. Glad I have my life back to normal and am enjoying every day.

pedaling

1. the action of working the pedals of a bicycle.
"I have to do some fast pedaling to get the chain to engage properly"
2. use of the pedals of a piano, organ, etc., especially in a particular style.
"Chopin gave no indications of pedaling in his manuscript"

surabi - 9-9-2021 at 09:20 PM

He's made it pretty obvious that he doesn't concern himself with other people getting super sick and dying- the most important thing is that nothing gets in the way of him doing whatever he likes and having fun.

JZ - 9-9-2021 at 10:39 PM

*** *** are very gullible, except for Goat. He knows the truth, but is playing along with the Lie.

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The real truth of who isn't vaxxed is:

1. Young ppl who have no party affiliation - they might have had Covid already or just don't think it is that big of a risk to them (which it isn't unless they have other health issues)

2. Minorities - most of the are Dem or no party affiliation.

3. Pubs

4. Dems

The difference in numbers between 3 and 4 is pretty marginal.

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[Edited on 9-10-2021 by BajaNomad]

Tioloco - 9-9-2021 at 10:49 PM