How to get to El Cardon surf spot?

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

The internet is killing secret surf spots. Please do not reply to questions like this.

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

The internet is killing secret surf spots. Please do not reply to questions like this.

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

The internet is killing secret surf spots.

Quote: Originally posted by steve5555

Do you take the paved road to Santa Rosalito and then just before town head north on dirt road? I have a 4WD sprinter and a 4x4 super duty. Steve

Yes, El Cardón is on the graded dirt highway running north from Santa Rosalillita. It is 23 miles north of the pavement to El Cardón ranch and 1 more mile to the beach camp road... This is by Punta Diablo:



The paved road to Santa Rosalillita is at Km. 38.5. Go west 7.8 miles to the dirt highway running north. The good graded road ends at the Punta Cono junction. 4WD is best to continue north.

It is spelled "Rosalillita" but incorrectly sometimes as "Rosaliita". Yes, it means "Little Santa Rosalía"... the original name for the point. See this map from 1930:


1941 map:


The name was altered to 'Santa Rosalillita' after the French Mine Town of the same name became famous in books, perhaps soon after WWII, to prevent confusion!

"Little Rosalia" is Rosalillita... traditional spelling at all places with the same name. A double i (ii) has never been seen by me in place names or Spanish words... have you see it?
INEGI makes so many map errors, I just don't trust them to get this right, lol!

I have never seen the Auto Club spell a Baja place wrong:


2010


1974


1962

Also, The Lower California Guidebook (1956-1970):



1962

2009 Baja Almanac (made from Mexican INEGI maps)

Now, it is true that Landon added names, mileages, etc. I don't know if he changed any spellings?

Here is the 2009 Almanac with the traditional spelling of the town, point, and bay:

Quote: Originally posted by vandy

And as far as native spelling skills, I wish I had taken pictures of the series of official signs I saw on a bridge on hwy 1 between Santiago and Miraflores. The first said "Puente Las Vivoras". A month or so later it was "Bivoras" The last and current one reads correctly "Viboras" They are all pronounced the same.

LOL, yes the B and V is interchangeable at times!

Is this vendor in San Quintín selling GOOD pitayas: VUENA = BUENA ??

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Yeah, I hear your doubts about INEGI, but with all due respect, if I have to decide between trusting your individual experience or professional Mexican cartographers over official spelling of names in their country and their native language, well... Anyway, what we foreigners think is moot: If the Federación wants to deal with that town, the reference name they will use is determined by INEGI, not some outsider who barely understands Spanish. For pragmatic reasons, I'd listen to the actual authority. [Edited on 9-28-2020 by lencho]

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say?

Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Quote: Originally posted by David K   INEGI is NOT a good source for correct place names, always. I don't doubt that, but your picture of how they work may not be totally accurate. They have an office in La Paz, and during the 90's they had a bunch of people working out of there, running mapping operations at least for BCS, with field personnel out personally driving and hiking even into remote areas. I don't know all the details, but I do know they were doing GIS processing of the collected data in that office, so it's not as if it were all done from some disconnected skyscraper in Mexico City...

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by JZ   There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say? Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA

Fun little surf spot at Diablo JZ. Usually pretty protected by the wind, long sandy bottom waves.

Uh oh, is the goat going to yell at me now to exposing more “secret” spots?

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

My second biggest take away from this thread is finding Punta Diablo. Been to the SS 5-6 times, but haven't been to this bay yet. Looking forward to seeing it over the next couple months.

From my Trip #4 report, Punta Diablo/ El Cardón Beach: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=86376








[Edited on 9-29-2020 by David K]

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by David K   Quote: Originally posted by JZ   There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say? Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA That's how I have it labeled in my GE way points I made over the years. I'm gonna stick with that. So if I can remember my Spanish language schooling from years ago it would go something like this; Santa Rosa = un pueblo Santa Rosalia = un pueblito Santa Rosalillita = un pueblitotito But I defer to the native speakers for the real thing. And Santa Rosalillita is not that little tiny place it once was with that fancy harbor and all. [Edited on 9-29-2020 by JZ]

Quote: Originally posted by El Jefe

Quote: Originally posted by JZ   Quote: Originally posted by David K   Quote: Originally posted by JZ   There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say? Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA That's how I have it labeled in my GE way points I made over the years. I'm gonna stick with that. So if I can remember my Spanish language schooling from years ago it would go something like this; Santa Rosa = un pueblo Santa Rosalia = un pueblito Santa Rosalillita = un pueblitotito But I defer to the native speakers for the real thing. And Santa Rosalillita is not that little tiny place it once was with that fancy harbor and all. [Edited on 9-29-2020 by JZ]