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factory in Santa Rosaliita

4x4abc - 10-9-2020 at 07:26 PM

question for the experts - what kind of operation is that large structure close to Santa Rosaliita?

factory.jpg - 247kB

David K - 10-9-2020 at 08:48 PM

Can you zoom out a little so we can see where it is to Santa Rosalillita?

vandy - 10-10-2020 at 03:13 AM

It's one mile due west of the Santa Rosalillita
marina/breakwater complex.

David K - 10-10-2020 at 07:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by vandy  
It's one mile due west of the Santa Rosalillita
marina/breakwater complex.


Thanks!
That road and other line from 2019 vanish into the 2006 image (dunes). Very curious! I wonder if it is a titanium mine like west of Colonet, extracting that element from the sand dunes?

4x4abc - 10-10-2020 at 08:03 AM

pne of the lines is a water canal
looks like one big basin is finished and they are dredging more
maybe a fish/shrimp farm?

cardo7 - 10-10-2020 at 08:11 AM

I was told that it’s a yellowtail farm?

David K - 10-10-2020 at 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by cardo7  
I was told that it’s a yellowtail farm?


That would be great!

Udo - 10-10-2020 at 03:51 PM

From what I was told by residents:

The plant was to originally be a desal plant. Then Pres. Vicente Fox nixed the desal plant and there was to be a deep water marina where boats would hauled out of the water there and transported to the other marina in Bahia De Los Angeles. That was the original reason why Fox legislated a huge power grid to BOLA which was to be used for the marina.

All projects have been abandoned.


Quote: Originally posted by cardo7  
I was told that it’s a yellowtail farm?

Rossman - 10-10-2020 at 07:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
From what I was told by residents:

The plant was to originally be a desal plant. Then Pres. Vicente Fox nixed the desal plant and there was to be a deep water marina where boats would hauled out of the water there and transported to the other marina in Bahia De Los Angeles. That was the original reason why Fox legislated a huge power grid to BOLA which was to be used for the marina.

All projects have been abandoned.




Quote: Originally posted by cardo7  
I was told that it’s a yellowtail farm?



It is fish farming operation. I spoke with one of the construction workers when it was being built about 3 years ago. I thought he said it was for White Sea Bass (curvina) but I could be wrong about that. The proposed deep water port is right in Santa Rosaliita. Actually not only proposed. It was built and totally walled in with jettys and concrete. Unfortunately, they did not plan for the sand blowing over hills to the Northwest every afternoon and the deep water stayed deep for about 3 months. After dredging it on almost a weekly basis for a couple months, they abandoned the project. The walled in area is totally filled in with sand now. Not sure there was a big market for what they were proposing anyway but that's just my thought.

4x4abc - 10-10-2020 at 07:27 PM

the former Escalera Nautica project is still alive.
New name.
Same management.

The plant I try to figure out is next door.
About a mile away to the west

nautica.jpg - 281kB

David K - 10-11-2020 at 07:03 AM

The harbor at Santa Rosalillita was the west side of the Escalera Nautica's land bridge to the Gulf of California (at L.A. Bay).

They made the harbor, they paved an extra-wide road in from Mexico 1 and they paved pull-outs every few kilometers from there to L.A. Bay. This so the boat-hauling-trucks could pull over and allow cars to pass. Yes, 24-hour-power was brought to L.A. Bay from Guerrero Negro, as well.




When they learned that yachties were a pretty cheap bunch and unlikely to pay the cost or trust having their cruisers and sailboats be hoisted onto truck-trailers to short cut over to the gulf, followed by the 2008 economic crash, it was over.

The Escalera Nautica was to create a series of yacht harbors around the peninsula where none existed, all to provide fuel and services to sailing tourists.



From Gene Kira, 2002:
SANTA ROSALILLITA HAS THE BEST ROAD OF ANY FISH CAMP IN BAJA
https://mexfish.com/baja/baja/af020615/af020615.htm

Other sites:

https://www.savethewaves.org/endangered-waves-past-site-esca...

http://www.blueroadrunner.com/nautica.htm

https://www.ensenada-baja-vacations.com/escalera-nautica.htm...

https://www.mexicomatters.net/mexicorealestate/10_escalerana...

Udo - 10-11-2020 at 09:13 AM

Mil gracias DK!



Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The harbor at Santa Rosalillita was the west side of the Escalera Nautica's land bridge to the Gulf of California (at L.A. Bay).

They made the harbor, they paved an extra-wide road in from Mexico 1 and they paved pull-outs every few kilometers from there to L.A. Bay. This so the boat-hauling-trucks could pull over and allow cars to pass. Yes, 24-hour-power was brought to L.A. Bay from Guerrero Negro, as well.




When they learned that yachties were a pretty cheap bunch and unlikely to pay the cost or trust having their cruisers and sailboats be hoisted onto truck-trailers to short cut over to the gulf, followed by the 2008 economic crash, it was over.

The Escalera Nautica was to create a series of yacht harbors around the peninsula where none existed, all to provide fuel and services to sailing tourists.



From Gene Kira, 2002:
SANTA ROSALILLITA HAS THE BEST ROAD OF ANY FISH CAMP IN BAJA
https://mexfish.com/baja/baja/af020615/af020615.htm

Other sites:

https://www.savethewaves.org/endangered-waves-past-site-esca...

http://www.blueroadrunner.com/nautica.htm

https://www.ensenada-baja-vacations.com/escalera-nautica.htm...

https://www.mexicomatters.net/mexicorealestate/10_escalerana...

David K - 10-11-2020 at 09:38 AM

Read the links I posted... Seems the whole project was a planned failure and simply an avenue to funnel money into the pockets of a few people (political friends)!

David K - 10-11-2020 at 09:51 AM

After reading the links, and my past years of traveling and talking with various people in Baja, these were my conclusions... purely in casual conversation here.

mtgoat666 - 10-11-2020 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Read the links I posted... Seems the whole project was a planned failure and simply an avenue to funnel money into the pockets of a few people (political friends)!


I don’t think it was a “planned failure.” More likely it was bad design, bad site selection.
Of course the contracts went to connected companies,... that is normal practice. Does not mean the intent was nefarious from the beginning...


Port (field) of dreams?

AKgringo - 10-11-2020 at 09:57 AM

Build it, and they will come....maybe!

BornFisher - 10-11-2020 at 10:21 AM

Probably the guy doing the billboards got rich!!

David K - 10-11-2020 at 10:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BornFisher  
Probably the guy doing the billboards got rich!!


Remember the big overheads signs along Hwy. 1 south of Ensenada, announcing the distance to Escalera Nautica?