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Hmmm, so what is the part West of MX 1 that I posted called?

Did you ride that or is it one of the array of tracks you asked others for to add to your collection?

[Edited on 1-27-2021 by motoged]

JZ - 1-26-2021 at 08:40 PM

Did you ride that or is it one of the array of tracks you asked others for to add to your collection?

Stop stalking me you weirdo. 9 months of it is enough already.

Post something about Baja.

mtgoat666 - 1-26-2021 at 09:00 PM

Did you ride that or is it one of the array of tracks you asked others for to add to your collection?

Stop stalking me you weirdo. 9 months of it is enough already.

Post something about Baja.

Shorty mcjizzy,
You need to dial it down by 5. You annoy people. Take a chill pill, it won’t make you taller, but might take your edge off.

motoged - 1-26-2021 at 09:43 PM

Did you ride that or is it one of the array of tracks you asked others for to add to your collection?

Stop stalking me you weirdo. 9 months of it is enough already.

Post something about Baja.

It is a simple question....a reply on the forum....not stalking.

So, did you ride that or not? Either way, what did you think the track was called?

This thread makes it clear some folks are not sure which trails are what....and efforts to clarify correct information is what this thread is about.

Having ridden many of Lizard Lady's tracks (most are Bill Nichol's), I have used those trail names as my references....

It's not ALL about you.

Capiche ?

[Edited on 1-27-2021 by motoged]

willardguy - 1-26-2021 at 10:07 PM

only one way to settle this boys, on the single track, loser says adios, what say Ged and BuckinCalabasas? maybe we can get Larry and Goat in on this too? BRAAAP!

Jinete Viejo - 1-26-2021 at 10:53 PM

I think your track from the Hwy to the Pacific is called the Cordonices road.

advrider - 1-27-2021 at 06:49 PM

I sent the tracks to JZ as I was having trouble converting them, he should be able to post them.
If anyone can confirm this is the 22 day trail please do, that is the name I know it by. We did see the memorial last year so I think this is the correct one?

JZ - 1-27-2021 at 07:57 PM

Here are your tracks in Blue/Black with some of my way points sprinkled in.

Jinete Viejo - 1-28-2021 at 01:06 AM

The blue/black track does appear to be it.

Jinete Viejo - 1-28-2021 at 01:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Quote: Originally posted by Jinete Viejo

I think your track from the Hwy to the Pacific is called the Cordonices road.

I haven't a clue about the actual trail but might that name be "Codornices" (i.e. "quail")?

The Almanac (page 7) has a nearby sand wash labeled twice, once with the "r" and once without. Likewise for 2 locations on the road. We need the resident grammar and spelling expert on this blog to straighten this out.

TMW - 1-28-2021 at 10:14 AM

The red track from Hwy 1 that says to Bahia Blanco is the Cordonices road. The Hwy turn off is at KM 252 or 270, take your pick, 252 is better. They come together about 7 or 8 miles from the Hwy. In the almanac there are two Cordonices the one closer to the Hwy is called San Antonio. The other is at the jct that heads south to Santa Rosalillita and has a cemetery sign in the almanac.

The other trail from Chapala at Hwy 1 comes out just north of Bahia Blanco is at HWY 1 KM 234. You have to snake your way around the blue restaurant to pick it up. Lots of silt at the start and as you near the coast.

The two together make for a fun loop.

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by TMW]

David K - 1-28-2021 at 11:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

The red track from Hwy 1 that says to Bahia Blanco is the Cordonices road. The Hwy turn off is at KM 252 or 270, take your pick, 252 is better. They come together about 7 or 8 miles from the Hwy. In the almanac there are two Cordonices the one closer to the Hwy is called San Antonio. The other is at the jct that heads south to Santa Rosalillita and has a cemetery sign in the almanac.

The other trail from Chapala at Hwy 1 comes out just north of Bahia Blanco is at HWY 1 KM 234. You have to snake your way around the blue restaurant to pick it up. Lots of silt at the start and as you near the coast.

The two together make for a fun loop.

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by TMW]

motoged - 1-28-2021 at 12:56 PM

David,
I notice you have added your name, date , and copyright logo on those Almanac maps. How does that work?

Just curious.

I don't know anything about copyright laws.....and my corporate trademark lawyer brother says it's tricky stuff sometimes.

This is why I am not a lawyer :

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/6/6f/Protection_of_Collaborative_Online_Maps_under_US_Copyright_Law.pdf

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by motoged]

David K - 1-28-2021 at 01:52 PM

What 'Almanac' maps do you see that on?
I don't do that... if my name is on a map, it is because I made that map.

David K - 1-28-2021 at 01:58 PM

Oh, and in case there are newbies who have not been following my map creations on Nomad (done with Nomad help, too): You are all welcome to copy and use my maps for your personal travel and research needs. I add a copyright on them as a discouragement from people who might republish them as their own work. To Nomads and amigos, my maps are your maps!

motoged - 1-28-2021 at 02:01 PM

The maps in the posts above....I thought those were Almanac maps that you have amended.

They may be from a different source than the Almanac, but appear to be amended maps.... e.g. with mileage and re-naming 7 Sister points.

I am not trying to be difficult....just curious as to how such a process works.

Ever try to determine where Aguas Calientes is on a Mexican/Central American map ? :biggrin:

Just looked at your map thread started a few years ago.....and now understand better how you created maps....lotsa work for sure. :coolup:

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by motoged]

David K - 1-28-2021 at 03:26 PM

Yes, it is indeed lots of work... but the final result is worth it!

I looked and looked for a map that I could modify but it just didn't exist, so I started from scratch using a base map that is available for creating custom maps. I added places, names, all dirt and side roads (only federal highways were on the base map).

To add dirt roads, the base map can be flipped to a satellite map and I drew a line over the roads I saw from space that I wanted to include, then flipped back to the base map.

John M helped me with the symbols for gas pumps, highway signs, airports, scale bar, compass, etc. Recently, geoffff helped me with the new Sierra Juárez area map and then went wild and made the full-peninsula maps by stitching together my 31 area maps and adding into the voids between some of them.

There is a lot of joy in making maps, at least for me. Cartography was my career choice out of high school but while in my local community college taking prep classes, I met this girl.... well, that introduced me to irrigation!

motoged - 1-28-2021 at 03:45 PM

Some might want to hear that story....

David K - 1-28-2021 at 04:31 PM

Some might want to hear that story....

Oh, that's easy... all it takes is a beer around a campfire! :light:

John Harper - 1-28-2021 at 04:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

only one way to settle this boys, on the single track, loser says adios, what say Ged and BuckinCalabasas? maybe we can get Larry and Goat in on this too? BRAAAP!

I'll donate my mechanic skills and bring my own tools. Just provide some Pacifico and I'm good to go.

I'll put $100 on motoged for the win as well.

John

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by John Harper]

del mar - 1-28-2021 at 04:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

only one way to settle this boys, on the single track, loser says adios, what say Ged and BuckinCalabasas? maybe we can get Larry and Goat in on this too? BRAAAP!

I'll donate my mechanic skills and bring my own tools. Just provide some Pacifico and I'm good to go.

I'll put $100 on motoged for the win as well.

John

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by John Harper]

easy money

JZ - 1-28-2021 at 04:51 PM

I'll donate my mechanic skills and bring my own tools. Just provide some Pacifico and I'm good to go.

I'll put $100 on motoged for the win as well.

John

https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs?t=102

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by JZ]

John Harper - 1-28-2021 at 05:04 PM

I'll donate my mechanic skills and bring my own tools. Just provide some Pacifico and I'm good to go.

I'll put $100 on motoged for the win as well.

John

https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs?t=102

[Edited on 1-28-2021 by JZ]

Wow, you're really good.

$500 on GED.

John

JZ - 1-28-2021 at 05:06 PM

Lol. That was funny.

[Edited on 1-29-2021 by JZ]

willardguy - 1-28-2021 at 05:33 PM

come on guys in his defense I would have thought those training wheels in the sand would have bogged him down! :lol:

$1K on the Ged

John Harper - 1-28-2021 at 05:59 PM

Lol. That was funny.

Thank you. I knew you'd see the humor.

John

AKgringo - 1-28-2021 at 06:09 PM

I have hauled gas and gear for Ged before, and would be glad to do it again! I would also look forward to meeting JZ and his boys, and can't think of a better place to do it.

motoged - 1-28-2021 at 06:10 PM

Yah, that would be fun.

I will donate my win to Los Viejos.... :cool:

advrider - 1-28-2021 at 07:28 PM

This could be the start of something cool, a Nomad single track ride with truck support! I'm in... Would be cool to put faces with some of the names. We could do something like ten days and have people join in as they can along the way? End the whole thing some place where others could drive to ( non riders ) for dinner..... I retire in ten months, I'm game..

PaulW - 1-28-2021 at 08:06 PM

For sure I would support with several dump cams. My issue is where can a Jeep go to provide any help? Obviously I can't drive on a single track. However I am a pretty good hiker.

JZ - 1-28-2021 at 08:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by advrider

This could be the start of something cool, a Nomad single track ride with truck support! I'm in... Would be cool to put faces with some of the names. We could do something like ten days and have people join in as they can along the way? End the whole thing some place where others could drive to ( non riders ) for dinner..... I retire in ten months, I'm game..

The ride ends near arguably the prettiest bays on the Pacific coast of Baja: Cono, Santa Maria, and Punta Lobos. All are beautiful gems.

Trucks can easily get there on the parallel track to the North. Even two wheel drives can get there from the South coming up from Santa Rosalitia.

advrider - 1-29-2021 at 07:43 AM

A support truck wouldn't need to do any serious offroading, you can plan gas stops off of the highway most times. As JZ said, depending on the direction you run some of the trails you can end on a beach or in a town. Most rides we do are unsupported so we have the gas range to get where we need.

With a support truck you can bring more then a backpack ( that's how we travel for 10-15 days) with tools, snacks and water. Always nice to bring the spare set or wheels with fresh tires and moose inserts. Ice chest with beer, water and food. Also the sag wagon can secure rooms long before the riders show up.

We usually give the driver $200-300 per rider to put in the bill envelope to take care of all of the supplies and rooms to make things easier, just refill as needed. This way the driver isn't trying to keep tab's on every dollar they spend to get reimbursed later. Sounds like it could be a good time for sure.

ehall - 1-29-2021 at 10:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by advrider

Sign me up. Just don't make it the first 3 weeks of March. Work I can't miss.

AKgringo - 1-29-2021 at 10:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by ehall

Quote: Originally posted by advrider

Sign me up. Just don't make it the first 3 weeks of March. Work I can't miss.

My time frame is wide open, but my next trip will be after I have received a course of vaccine treatment! That probably is an even more of a requirement before the US and Canada borders will allow non-essential travel.

motoged - 1-29-2021 at 11:44 AM