BajaNomad - Only place to stay in Pescadero if you can afford it. Rancho Pescadero.

it's a giant project. lots of equipment and workers. in the earlier version, pre remodel, they made an effort to not exclude local expats, even though they were not the target customers. the garden restaurant was an example. when first open anyone could dine in the hotel area...they then decided the interior area would be for hotel guests only. their PR moves made the local gringos feel good about the operation.

What about the local Mexicans, were they made to feel welcome too?

Here is the website description of what is coming — Lots of talk about apothecary, health, wellness, treatments,...
Sounds like the resort is a sanitarium for sickly people

Here is description:

“To share a bit of the vision across almost 30 acres, we are adding a new Oceanfront restaurant, additional suites (all have ocean views) with private plunge pools and a new wellness center with an apothecary where you can distill organic herbs from our farm to use in your spa treatments. We’re expanding our yoga programs with two studios, adding Pilates, Barre, a lap pool, a new indoor/outdoor gym with Pickle ball courts and acres of new trails and gardens. We’re excited for you to experience these additions to Rancho. Connecting with yourself, your partner and nature is essential to the Rancho Way and adding wonderful wellness components to our organic and sustainable mission will make the property even more special.”

Why does a hotel need an on site apothecary?

[Edited on 5-3-2021 by mtgoat666]

pauldavidmena - 5-3-2021 at 07:45 AM

the rumor i heard is this place will be the Hyatt.

Yikes. Does that mean that Rancho Pescadero as we once knew it will be kaput?

pacificobob - 5-3-2021 at 08:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

local Mexicans of average means are not found in the higher priced venues...but you knew that.
what we are seeing is Mexican tourists with sufficient resources to dine out in the more costly restaurants.

pacificobob - 5-3-2021 at 08:15 AM

the rumor i heard is this place will be the Hyatt.

Yikes. Does that mean that Rancho Pescadero as we once knew it will be kaput?

well, i certainly hope not. things are evolving here at light speed.
many here miss the garden restaurant. the guest chef thing they did was a big hit.
change is the only sure bet.

Lee - 5-3-2021 at 09:17 AM

the rumor i heard is this place will be the Hyatt.

Yikes. Does that mean that Rancho Pescadero as we once knew it will be kaput?

well, i certainly hope not. things are evolving here at light speed.
many here miss the garden restaurant. the guest chef thing they did was a big hit.
change is the only sure bet.

Prob be a Hyatt license and owner, LH, of Levi money, will sell for multi-million deal, but run the operation.

Spent a few Thanksgiving Garden meals over the years. Mariachi from La Paz playing, great food, friends.

Sounds of building will drive me out one day. Just the way it is.

RFClark - 5-3-2021 at 06:19 PM

Here’s today’s photo of what is being built! Today was the Labor Day holiday in Mexico, but they were hard at work!

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pauldavidmena - 5-9-2021 at 07:39 AM

According to this article in Mexico News Daily, Hyatt plans one of its "Unbound Collection" hotels in Todos Santos by 2025. The article reveals that its source is this post on expansion.mx (in Spanish). It calls the project "The Unbound Collection Rancho Pescadero By Hyatt", which would seem to connect the dots.

pacificobob - 5-9-2021 at 08:12 AM

a couple years ago....a small percentage, but increasing daily.
i get the distinct feeling mexico has a rapidly expanding middle class with accompanied disposable income.

RFClark - 5-9-2021 at 09:01 AM

The Rancho Pescadeo website denies that the original owners sold out but buying a franchise from Hyatt might allow both things to be true.

pauldavidmena - 5-11-2021 at 05:07 AM

More on the Hyatt-ization of Rancho Pescadero from the Gringo Gazette. It's short on details, but does seem to have a shorter timeline.

mtgoat666 - 5-11-2021 at 06:02 AM

The Rancho pesca remodel is a tear-down and rebuild, so seems to not be an “unbound”-type property, but more of a Hyatt cookie cutter project.

I stay in chain hotels when traveling for work, but in past few decades have not stayed in a chain hotel on vacation. What is the appeal of the big megaplexes for you vacationers that stay in the big chain hotels?

pauldavidmena - 5-11-2021 at 07:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

The Rancho pesca remodel is a tear-down and rebuild, so seems to not be an “unbound”-type property, but more of a Hyatt cookie cutter project.

I stay in chain hotels when traveling for work, but in past few decades have not stayed in a chain hotel on vacation. What is the appeal of the big megaplexes for you vacationers that stay in the big chain hotels?

We're not those type of vacationers. When traveling to Baja, we typically rent a casita with a well-equipped kitchen and cook most of our own meals, but we did enjoy the garden restaurant at the old Rancho Pescadero years back. I do feel like the rebuild will be a clone of a Los Cabos resort transported 50 or so miles away.

Lee - 5-11-2021 at 09:52 AM

Someone is spreading rumors including the Gazette. Rancho isn't a tear down but a add-on. I fully explain the attraction of resort inclusive living and further explanation is pointless. To each their own.

Anyone know about Cyril's old place near Cabo Extreme? Heard the Rancho owner bought it years ago. Nobody will be happy with gentrification up there.

pacificobob - 5-11-2021 at 11:38 AM

i just rode past cyrils old place yesterday...looked about the same.
he has been gone over 15 years no?

pauldavidmena - 2-26-2022 at 03:35 PM

An update on the Rancho Pescadero renovation from the Gringo Gazette:

Lee - 2-27-2022 at 10:56 AM

The road to Rancho is the one next to the Pemex in town. Wish I could see the expressions on people driving down that road. Heavily Vado'd, tope'd, narrow and crowded.

Tequila Road is worse starting with the sewer running into the road.

surfhat - 2-27-2022 at 11:23 AM

I used to spend a couple of months every winter camping at San Pedrito before there was a campground and trailer park hookups.

Those were the days my friends.

To even imagine what that surrounding area has been developed into hurts my soul.

I recall hiking into the almost enclosed bay a few miles north of the point and thinking, wow, what a spot for a hotel. There was a nearby beach break that would sometimes offer a choice for surfing after a morning session.

It was a long hike down to the water from the approach trail. I believe it was once used by whalers long ago for its protective harbor.

Has anything ever gone in there? This was south of the beach where the fisherman all launched their boats until that beach was sold off, or rather sold out.

One would think, don't screw the local fishermen and continue to provide them the space on the beach to do their thing. It would cost the developers nothing of substance and show some heart and respect for the locals. Punta Lobo would been easy to help sustain the beach for the pangas use. I doubt it ever entered the developers consciousness.

Just imagine the good will such a move would have made to the community.

I still have treasured friends living in the area and hope to make a visit someday when the timing works. To them, my wishes for the best in all things. Your generous hospitality was always appreciated.

pauldavidmena - 2-27-2022 at 12:45 PM

The road to Rancho is the one next to the Pemex in town. Wish I could see the expressions on people driving down that road. Heavily Vado'd, tope'd, narrow and crowded.

Tequila Road is worse starting with the sewer running into the road.

I was pretty amazed by the development south of the tequila ranch, and in particular the area right around Modern Elder Academy. And to think I nearly bought a house not too far from there a few years back. I also looked at a few nice lots in Pescadero that now have big houses on them. I didn't get to "Rancho Pescadero Road" or Cerritos during my last trip - I just plain ran out of time.

Lee - 2-27-2022 at 07:50 PM

My concern anywhere at the S. end of Pedrito would be zoning. Some nice homes down that way, and condos, and a cantina or House of Ill Repute can go up overnight. Don't remember how long the Ladies partied at this location but music blared into the night for a long time.

Anyone recall what happened? No thanks.

pauldavidmena - 2-28-2022 at 06:22 AM

A few years back I asked a builder in Todos Santos about zoning in my broken Spanish. He spoke no English at all, but made a sign of the cross.

My concern anywhere at the S. end of Pedrito would be zoning. Some nice homes down that way, and condos, and a cantina or House of Ill Repute can go up overnight. Don't remember how long the Ladies partied at this location but music blared into the night for a long time.

Anyone recall what happened? No thanks.

pacificobob - 2-28-2022 at 06:56 AM

Yes that sheet creek flowing down that road is quite charming.
Several businesses along that road are miffed that customers have to drive through sewage to reach their restaurants and boutique hotels.

pacificobob - 2-28-2022 at 07:04 AM

I remember the brothel in that neighborhood. Truck drivers would drive their rigs down from the highway [ a mile of bad road] pull up...the brothel operator would then turn on the lights ..crank up the blown speakers music to 10, and wake the girls.
A buddy was living across the road then.
It was funny....if you lived out of ear shot. It disappeared about 10 years ago?

pacificobob - 2-28-2022 at 11:25 AM

Just attended a meeting of miffed neighbors regarding an outfit called "baja sage".
They feel permits are not something they need to proceed with their hugely unpopular development.

pacificobob - 2-28-2022 at 02:33 PM

It's the people who live nearby. Most of which are expats and some local Mexicans.
It is alleged they have ignored standard permitting processes for construction and have developed an unauthorized well. Today the meeting was in regard to placing power poles down the center of the access road to several residential properties.
Rather than having unsightly poles on land they own.

Lee - 2-28-2022 at 05:09 PM

Had dinner with Conley couple years ago in Pesky. He is an acquaintance. Only positive things to say about him.

PROFEPA is a good resource for permit management. They would want to know about illegalities, esp. wells. Def a no-no.

monoloco - 2-28-2022 at 06:07 PM

Jajaja. We're on the hill and had a great view of the old Marabunta, some nights they'd go until 6 or 7 am. Chili season was the busiest time, the rest of the year the local guys were so poor, they'd park along the road under the mango trees and listen to music and drink, then go grab a quickie. The gals would stroll the neighborhood trying to entice my workers when things got slow. Had one neighbor who spent a lot of money on lawyers trying to get rid of them, I suggested that a webcam focused on the parking lot would probably be more effective. They never bothered me much, but I do appreciated the reduced late night traffic since they've been gone. It looks like someone's turning the old building into a swanky house now. Oh if walls could talk.

monoloco - 2-28-2022 at 06:12 PM

Had dinner with Conley couple years ago in Pesky. He is an acquaintance. Only positive things to say about him.

PROFEPA is a good resource for permit management. They would want to know about illegalities, esp. wells. Def a no-no.

Chip's been a good neighbor and has contributed generously to the community. He recently bought the bomberos a new water truck.

pauldavidmena - 3-19-2022 at 03:14 PM

Here is an article from "Afar" magazine written by someone who has probably never been to Baja. That said, the article mentions that the original owner is still at the helm and plans to position the renovated resort as a model of sustainability.

mtgoat666 - 3-19-2022 at 04:24 PM

…the article mentions that the original owner is still at the helm and plans to position the renovated resort as a model of sustainability.

In a capitalist system, the symbolism of placing a gated luxury resort among people living in poverty is not sustainable. Such economic disparity and classism of this resort is symbolic of other inequality throughout Mexico and the capitalist world.
Classism and inequality is not sustainable. History has shown that every civilization will eventually fail, and inequality/classism is almost Always the root cause.

Anyhow, The operation may be electrically sustainable if they put a big honking solar farm on site. Bit is the hotel economically and socially sustainable? Was the capital expenditure a sustainable act? And is perpetuating Classism sustainable over the long term?

Lee - 3-19-2022 at 08:18 PM

Rancho has at least 100 people working at every level, plus the big money coming in from guests. Hopefully workers are sharing in the profits. Good for the local MX economy.

Didn't read the article. They all sound the same and most lack credibility.

RFClark - 3-19-2022 at 08:24 PM

Hay Goat,

Ever been to Non-Capitalist Country? There are still gated resorts with armed (military) guards. Still have poor folk living around them. The difference is the poor in the non-capitalist country don’t get paid to work in those resorts! Those running the “Workers Paradise” are the guests!

mtgoat666 - 3-19-2022 at 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark

Hay Goat,

Ever been to Non-Capitalist Country? There are still gated resorts with armed (military) guards. Still have poor folk living around them. The difference is the poor in the non-capitalist country don’t get paid to work in those resorts! Those running the “Workers Paradise” are the guests!

The USA has been around for about 245 years. The first 190-years were marked by institutionalized classism in form of slavery and Jim Crow laws.
Usa is still grappling with classism, today white majority still use cops and other quasi-institutionalized racism to subjugate and oppress minorities.
History proves that all countries/governments eventually decline.
Democracy does not exist, it is fakery. The current state of democracy is actually oligarchy.
Ultimately, the end state that people will aspire to will be tribal communism.

[Edited on 3-20-2022 by mtgoat666]

RFClark - 3-19-2022 at 09:43 PM

Goat,

You still need to get out more! You sound strangely like the Anarchist you accused me of being! Post State Marxism might work if it weren’t for the government guys with the nukes who won't let you opt out and stop paying taxes!

pauldavidmena - 4-23-2022 at 06:28 PM

Just read this article about the renovated Rancho Pescadero.

Lee - 4-23-2022 at 09:52 PM

Just read this article about the renovated Rancho Pescadero.

...''where barefoot luxury meets Mexican soul.'' Yeah baby :cool:

Might have to book a weekend to use the lap pool. Pickle ball paddle and court shoes de rigueur.

They have their share of weddings here. Fireworks at night on the beach with explosions close enough my RV shakes.

Thx for posting Paul.

pauldavidmena - 5-24-2022 at 03:15 PM

An update - according to this article in FTN News, Rancho Pescadero has hired a decorated chef as Culinary Director of the resort, scheduled to reopen this Fall.

mtgoat666 - 5-24-2022 at 03:38 PM

An update - according to this article in FTN News, Rancho Pescadero has hired a decorated chef as Culinary Director of the resort, scheduled to reopen this Fall.

Sounds yummy and expensive.

Lee - 5-24-2022 at 08:45 PM