Salina Cuarenta

why is Salina Cuarenta called Salina Cuarenta?

Because it's between Salinas 39 and 41?

No laughs?

Maybe simply named after the ranch? Which came first the ranch or the salt flat?

OK, well here we see the 'Quarente Ranch' on a 1930 map:



[Edited on 8-6-2021 by David K]

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

why is Salina Cuarenta called Salina Cuarenta?

no, it is not below Mesa Cuarenta
Salina, Mesa, Arroyo, Rancho and Estero with that Cuarenta name are many miles apart - but within 15 miles of each other


[Edited on 8-6-2021 by 4x4abc]

The map label is wrong, Mesa Cuarenta is the mesa not the salt flat or low desert. It is called Mesa La Salina on most modern maps

Here is a photo I took of it, a few days before I was at your house:





[Edited on 8-6-2021 by David K]

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

no, it is not below Mesa Cuarenta Salina, Mesa, Arroyo, Rancho and Estero with that Cuarenta name are many miles apart - but within 15 miles of each other [Edited on 8-6-2021 by 4x4abc]

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

The salina is below a big flocking mesa, call it what you like.

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666   The salina is below a big flocking mesa, call it what you like. how does that help to figure out where the name came from?

seems like we have an answer
Salina del Cuarenta is 40 miles away from San Ignacio
on the old (mostly impassable) road along the bottom of Mesa La Salina

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

seems like we have an answer Salina del Cuarenta is 40 miles away from San Ignacio on the old (mostly impassable) road along the bottom of Mesa La Salina

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

to give you an update one of my Mexican friends claims he has a map from the 1860's saying "Salina de Cuarenta Martires" now, Cuarenta Martires is a well known event for active religious people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste waiting for a copy of that map

Great discovery, if true. Sounds more plausible than 40 miles.

No Cuarenta on these maps... but nearby (10 miles from Rancho Cuarenta) Patrocinio sure is!

1823 Map:


1864 Map:


1868 Map:

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

to give you an update one of my Mexican friends claims he has a map from the 1860's saying "Salina de Cuarenta Martires" now, Cuarenta Martires is a well known event for active religious people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste waiting for a copy of that map

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Mexicans love fairy tales as much as Americans savor conspiracy theories

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

found the 1860's map - it is indeed Salina Cuarenta Martires

1871 Santa Rosalia survey map

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste

The full map... detail may not be visible.

When one zooms in on parts, like Harald did with Salina Cuarenta Mátires, you can read the place names. I have sent it to geoffff to see if he can work some magic on it.

For example...

Roads (trails) are dashed lines and arroyos are solid lines.

*We can see Mulegé, in the lower right corner.
*Punta de Santa Inés (Punta Chivato).
*The trail from Mulegé meets the arroyo at Magdalena (ruins washed away in 2014).
*Up the arroyo a bit is Rondin (where the arroyo exits the mountain, later called Boca de Magdalena). Rondin is mentioned in one of my old books.
*San José (San José de Magdalena)
*The trail splits and one continues to Palo Hachada (Palo cut off)
* Mission Guadalupe is on the left, lower side.

Rondin:
Sebastian Viosca (United States Consul in La Paz, 1861) wrote a report saying "the Jesuits founded the abolished mission of La Magdalena on these plains, about 5 leagues distant from Mulegé." He continues, "On the north of these plains is the place called Rondin."

Here is my update of the 1871 map.
Click to enlarge.