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Tragedy at the Sahuaros Gigantes south of San Felipe

steekers - 8-28-2021 at 09:08 PM

Really sad report. Seems strange. How does one get lost in these Giants?

https://mexicodailypost.com/2021/08/28/reported-missing-span...

https://alfredoalvarez.mx/joven-espanola-desaparece-en-desie...

[Edited on 8-29-2021 by steekers]

Bajazly - 8-28-2021 at 10:27 PM

So they went into Valle de Los Gigantes? The road is pretty defined thru there but it kind of sounds like they weren't in the actual park.

4x4abc - 8-29-2021 at 12:10 AM

plenty of inconsistencies
reports say the couple turned off at km 11 or km 14 and another says km 31
one says they went in 6 km, another says 3 km
it was also reported that locals saw the woman in just her bikini wandering kinda lost along the highway
if so, why did nobody offer help?

David K - 8-29-2021 at 06:42 AM

As Harald days, the facts are not clear. If you drove away from the highway, why would you not walk back to the highway on the dirt road you were on? Sad loss of life, indeed.

mtgoat666 - 8-29-2021 at 07:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
As Harald days, the facts are not clear. If you drove away from the highway, why would you not walk back to the highway on the dirt road you were on? Sad loss of life, indeed.


Details unimportant. They broke down, one died from heat.
Lesson: take water, hat and appropriate clothing when traveling in desert.

4x4abc - 8-29-2021 at 07:43 AM

and you don't take a VW Polo on a desert dirt road

wilderone - 8-29-2021 at 07:50 AM

"wandering kinda lost along the highway if so, why did nobody offer help?" Why didn't she flag them down? Does sound like both of them were very unprepared and obviously made a few bad choices. I don't understand how both of them could walk for two hours and not get to the highway or realize where their car got stuck in relation to the highway or other ranchos they had passed. It is sad that they were prepared for sight-seeing fun and ended tragically. The article stated there have been 24 heat related deaths near Mexicali this year.

mtgoat666 - 8-29-2021 at 08:03 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
and you don't take a VW Polo on a desert dirt road


I disagree. I have taken quite a few rental econo cars on desert dirt roads.

When traveling, rental cars are the only offroad car available. I always say, the best offroad vehicle is a rental car. abuse it and return it. You just need to buy bottled water before you go offroad.

mjs - 8-29-2021 at 08:42 AM

Lot of speculation and misinformation above.

This happened just a few km from us. It was an extremely hot day with no wind. Not a good day to be outside let alone lost and on foot. Unfortunately, the result was not unexpected.

bajatrailrider - 8-29-2021 at 10:18 AM

Very strange to be out in that area at this time of year. As is a oven there very sad to see this post

John Harper - 8-29-2021 at 10:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

I disagree. I have taken quite a few rental econo cars on desert dirt roads. ...abuse it and return it.

No doubt you have. But of course, you're "woke". All that moral superiority carries you, uscathed, over adversity that would confound lesser men. ;)


Never understood the selfish and immature arrogance of people who abuse rental cars. Trashing your hotel room isn't enough? Grow up.

John

bajatrailrider - 8-29-2021 at 06:04 PM

John that is because burro's don't have driver license

PaulW - 8-30-2021 at 09:40 AM

Yes, facts are not clear. Still a sad story of bad decisions.
What I do know
The original report was the search area was west of Hwy5 Km ~21 Percebu. The search included volunteers (to many apparently), fire department, Marines, and included a helicopter.
KM 11 is wrong and Km 14 is the road to Valley of the Giant Saguaros. That place has been locked up for quite a time and not accessible.


David K - 8-30-2021 at 10:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Yes, facts are not clear. Still a sad story of bad decisions.
What I do know
The original report was the search area was west of Hwy5 Km ~21 Percebu. The search included volunteers (to many apparently), fire department, Marines, and included a helicopter.
KM 11 is wrong and Km 14 is the road to Valley of the Giant Saguaros. That place has been locked up for quite a time and not accessible.




Indeed... some bad location details on Facebook.
The giant cactus there are also not saguaro or sahuaro, but cardón.
I also read Km. 31 or 32 mentioned. Both are roads going to the sulfur mine area and were the original camp access roads for Bahía Santa María and Nuevo Mazatlán, before the Hwy. 5 roadbed went in, in 1982.

mtgoat666 - 8-30-2021 at 11:24 AM

https://puntonorte.info/2021/08/29/maria-dolores-fallecio-po...

article tells a version of the story.

for you amateur Quincys, if you dont like the geographic and forensic article details in the news, then go get a job as a reporter and show us how you will do it better!

4x4abc - 8-30-2021 at 01:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
https://puntonorte.info/2021/08/29/maria-dolores-fallecio-po...

article tells a version of the story.

for you amateur Quincys, if you dont like the geographic and forensic article details in the news, then go get a job as a reporter and show us how you will do it better!


good journalism - there is no Campo Santa Marta south of San Felipe

4x4abc - 8-30-2021 at 01:25 PM

km 14 and km 11 +500

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PaulW - 8-30-2021 at 05:09 PM

I know I said west of Percebu. Actually the grid search was 2 miles west of KM26. The a the fire people found her in that area.

PaulW - 8-30-2021 at 05:12 PM

The title of the story should be lost woman west of Km 26. But the journalists decided to make up a different story that tells nothing about where it happened.

4x4abc - 8-30-2021 at 05:28 PM

a bit more clear - km 14 and km 11.5

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