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Canada/US border finally to open, early Nov....

AKgringo - 10-13-2021 at 06:58 AM

I am not anti-vax, in fact I just got round three of what Pfizer brewed up. I think that anyone who could show proof of recovery, and a very recent negative test should be free to move about the country!

It looks like only those who are sent to secondary will have to show proof of vaccination;

"Foreign visitors crossing into the United States by land or ferry will need to be vaccinated but will not necessarily need to show proof of vaccination unless they are referred by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol for secondary inspections."

mtgoat666 - 10-13-2021 at 07:10 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I am not anti-vax, in fact I just got round three of what Pfizer brewed up. I think that anyone who could show proof of recovery, and a very recent negative test should be free to move about the country!

It looks like only those who are sent to secondary will have to show proof of vaccination;

"Foreign visitors crossing into the United States by land or ferry will need to be vaccinated but will not necessarily need to show proof of vaccination unless they are referred by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol for secondary inspections."


Why would anyone not get the vaccine?

And why would you sit in long border line and risk being rejected if you are asked to provide vaccination proof you do not have? And also risk being put on list as having lied to CBP, resulting in loss of sentri or inability to ever get sentri?

Get the vaccine. Don’t be a dumb maga dufus.

mtgoat666 - 10-13-2021 at 07:12 AM

I bet the CBP inspector restaffing plan lags the return of crossers, leading to humungous lines and loooooooonnnnggg waits….

SFandH - 10-13-2021 at 07:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Why would anyone not get the vaccine?



Well, if you're Mexican, who the border restrictions affect the most, perhaps because they are available only on a hit-and-miss basis. Vaccines were just available in TJ for several days at a gov. facility a considerable distance east of centro. Then they ran out, disappointing 1000s, probably 10s of thousands, of TJ citizens who want to get vaccinated but can't.

If they are only checking in secondary, 1 out of 1000, or fewer, will be checked.

And there is no mention if one shot is OK or both are needed.



[Edited on 10-13-2021 by SFandH]

chippy - 10-13-2021 at 09:01 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexico and Canada essential travel restrictions will be lifted in November to fully vaccinated people.

The exception are the 90,000+ who have walked across the border line at places other than official crossings since Covid. Hopefully, they got vaccinated before being bussed around the country.


Jeez dk nothing has changed, always with the politics:barf:. You should be happy now you don´t need to be afraid to go to baja:lol:.

David K - 10-13-2021 at 09:06 AM

It was a discussion of lifting of border restrictions for fully vaccinated people... Justice is supposed to be blind, yet the rules or the law are not applied equally by the U.S. federal government. It is a legal comment, not political.

Finchaser2020 - 10-13-2021 at 09:09 AM

What about those who have natural immunity?

mtgoat666 - 10-13-2021 at 09:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexico and Canada essential travel restrictions will be lifted in November to fully vaccinated people.

The exception are the 90,000+ who have walked across the border line at places other than official crossings since Covid. Hopefully, they got vaccinated before being bussed around the country.


90,000? Insignificant! The number of unvaccinated undocumented immigrants is minuscule compared to the 140,000,000 unvaccinated usa citizens.

David K - 10-13-2021 at 09:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Finchaser2020  
What about those who have natural immunity?


Exactly!
Goat wants that injection no matter if it is needed or not, he also is counting the millions of children under 12 who have no vaccine, yet.

motoged - 10-13-2021 at 10:09 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It was a discussion of lifting of border restrictions for fully vaccinated people... Justice is supposed to be blind, yet the rules or the law are not applied equally by the U.S. federal government. It is a legal comment, not political.


DK, the Artful Dodger :biggrin:

JZ - 10-13-2021 at 11:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexico and Canada essential travel restrictions will be lifted in November to fully vaccinated people.

The exception are the 90,000+ who have walked across the border line at places other than official crossings since Covid. Hopefully, they got vaccinated before being bussed around the country.


90,000? Insignificant! The number of unvaccinated undocumented immigrants is minuscule compared to the 140,000,000 unvaccinated usa citizens.



70% of Americans have had at least one shot.

That leaves about 99M. 50M of those are under 12. That leaves 49M. Probably 20M of them have had Covid. Leaving about 29M you all are crying about.

Of those 29M, only a small % (<5%) are crossing the border. They are required to be vaxxed.

1.4M are know to have crossed illegally. Another 50% of that are get aways. Those 2M+ ppl and counting are not required to be vaxxed and are being bussed all over the US.


SFandH - 10-13-2021 at 03:26 PM

I know it's a bit selfish of me, but the 2020 - 2021 COVID winter months in the Bahia Concepcion - Mulege area were really nice because of the smaller crowds. With the northern border open, the Maple Leaf flags will again be flying on Baja beaches.

Canadian RVers racing to the border:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bt9wL61kio




[Edited on 10-14-2021 by SFandH]

chippy - 10-13-2021 at 04:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I know it's a bit selfish of me, but the 2020 - 2021 COVID winter months in the Bahia Concepcion - Mulege area were really nice because of the smaller crowds. With the northern border open, the Maple Leaf flags will again be flying on Baja beaches.

Canadian RVers racing to the border:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bt9wL61kio



[Edited on 10-13-2021 by SFandH]


I agree 100%. I spent more time in Baja the last 18 mos. than I have in years. I´m gonna give this fall and winter a miss because I too believe it´s gonna be a zoo.

GeraldoS - 10-13-2021 at 04:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  


Exactly!
Goat wants that injection no matter if it is needed or not, he also is counting the millions of children under 12 who have no vaccine, yet.


I read that COVID vaccines also cure leukemia.

eastmeetswest - 10-13-2021 at 06:47 PM

Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?

David K - 10-14-2021 at 08:02 AM

Quote: Originally posted by eastmeetswest  
Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?


Bahía Concepción (Feb. 2017), wall to wall RVs at most beaches, many flying a Canadian flag... but, that's okay, eh? The most polite people you ever will meet!







HeyMulegeScott - 10-14-2021 at 10:26 AM

I agree with David on the crowds part. Last winter in the Mulege area was much less crowded with the border closure. I think many older Americans also decided not to come down for the winter.





I did a story about the beaches on my Mulege site - https://heymulege.com/2020/12/02/beach-report/

David K - 10-14-2021 at 12:23 PM

Can you check La Perla next time you pass by? Compare photos, perhaps? Thanks!


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US 41 - 10-14-2021 at 03:25 PM

Sounds like nothing has changed for Americans. If you have a US Passport they have to let you back in and I seriously doubt Mexico ever requires visitors to be vaxed, considering how they have been one of the easiest countries to get into throughout the pandemic.

eastmeetswest - 10-14-2021 at 08:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by eastmeetswest  
Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?


A picture is worth....It seems that I was wrong. But my guess is that there are many, many more RV's from the US than Canada on most of the beaches.

David K - 10-14-2021 at 08:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by eastmeetswest  
Quote: Originally posted by eastmeetswest  
Really? Come on... Most Canadians fly to Cabo. And we could fly down there last year too. Most of the Canadians that I know that have a place were there last year. There will be a few RV's coming south but it will hardly be a zoo?


A picture is worth....It seems that I was wrong. But my guess is that there are many, many more RV's from the US than Canada on most of the beaches.


That winter of 2016-2017, 10 maple leafs for each stars and stripes. It is really a big destination for the Great White North!

Don Pisto - 10-14-2021 at 08:13 PM

I wanna see a Timmy's on the beach!

surabi - 10-14-2021 at 10:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  


That winter of 2016-2017, 10 maple leafs for each stars and stripes. It is really a big destination for the Great White North!


Guess you're unaware that many Americans claim to be Canadian when they travel outside the US, complete with maple leaf symbols on their backpacks and Canadian flags, because Canadians generally are much better received in foreign countries than Americans.

Friend of mine, from British Columbia, travelling in Thailand, struck up a conversation with the Engish-speaking group at the next table in a restaurant.

"So where you guys from?"

"Canada."

"Oh, where in Canada?"

"British Columbia."

"Where in British Columbia?"

"Victoria Island."

"Haha, you guys are so busted."

Mulege Canuck - 10-15-2021 at 03:24 AM

I am sure looking forward to getting back to Mulege this winter. Does anyone know what the Covid situation is like in town?

HeyMulegeScott - 10-16-2021 at 10:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
I am sure looking forward to getting back to Mulege this winter. Does anyone know what the Covid situation is like in town?


Six active cases in town according to the state site tracker - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/

TMW - 10-16-2021 at 11:56 AM

I don't know about the Canadian border or Baja Sur but the northern Baja border has been and is now easy to cross. The only real change I know of is that Tecate and Mexicali East closes at 2pm.

Me and 5 friends just got back from a 5 day trip down Baja that was cut short because of several car problems. Dead battery, serpentine belt broke etc. While we had to make changes to our schedule we had a great time. Santa Rosalillita north along the coast to some beautiful beaches. Frog Canyon and on to Papa Fernandez. Getting lost in Mexicali before crossing with absolutely no problems.

Next trip will be to finish what we started and that is to take many donations along with some food and cleaning supplies to the grandpas.

My only gripe was the changes to getting to the Migration office in Tecate. Parking sucks and I felt I was walking in circles to get to the office. Next time it will be TJ for my FMM visa.

AKgringo - 10-16-2021 at 01:12 PM

For my FMM, Mexicali west was a breeze for me, but that was almost a year ago!

Bajazly - 10-16-2021 at 01:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
For my FMM, Mexicali west was a breeze for me, but that was almost a year ago!


It's still a breeze.

del mar - 10-16-2021 at 05:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
For my FMM, Mexicali west was a breeze for me, but that was almost a year ago!


It's still a breeze.


who said anything about mexicali INM?

JZ - 10-16-2021 at 05:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  

Guess you're unaware that many Americans claim to be Canadian when they travel outside the US, complete with maple leaf symbols on their backpacks and Canadian flags, because Canadians generally are much better received in foreign countries than Americans.

Friend of mine, from British Columbia, travelling in Thailand, struck up a conversation with the Engish-speaking group at the next table in a restaurant.

"So where you guys from?"

"Canada."

"Oh, where in Canada?"

"British Columbia."

"Where in British Columbia?"

"Victoria Island."

"Haha, you guys are so busted."



In all my international travels (100+ trips), I've never met anyone who didn't like Americans or anyone trying to pawn themselves off as a Canuck.

On the other hand, rode in an Uber yesterday. The girl said she moved here from Canada 2 years ago.

Without any prompting she when on a rant of how she no longer recognizes her country anymore. Said Trudeau was turning it into a communist state. Her words, not mine.




[Edited on 10-17-2021 by JZ]

John Harper - 10-16-2021 at 06:28 PM

So the rants of an Uber driver are enough to alert you that "communism" is on the march in Canada and you find it important enough to inform us?

Thank you for saving us from those godless "communists." 1950 is calling, you're invited to Thanksgiving with Norman Rockwell and Joe McCarthy.

You've really gone off the deep end lately. Take gnukid's advice: Sleep, eat healthy, exercise, enjoy healthy relations with others. Relax.

John

[Edited on 10-17-2021 by John Harper]

Don Pisto - 10-16-2021 at 07:07 PM

:lol:...whats this world coming to if you can't believe a canadian uber driver?

surabi - 10-16-2021 at 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


In all my international travels (100+ trips), I've never met anyone who didn't like Americans or anyone trying to pawn themselves off as a Canuck.

On the other hand, rode in an Uber yesterday. The girl said she moved here from Canada 2 years ago.

Without any prompting she when on a rant of how she no longer recognizes her country anymore. Said Trudeau was turning it into a communist state. Her words, not mine.




[Edited on 10-17-2021 by JZ]


And your point is? Just because you've never encountered something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Not only do Americans claim to be Canadian when travelling, there are travel blogs that advise it. I know you are under the delusion that the US is the greatest country on earth, but almost no one outside the US agrees, and most wouldn't move to the US if you paid them to.

Canada Communist? I see. Another right winger like you, bandying words about she doesn't understand the meaning of.

Salsa - 10-16-2021 at 08:31 PM

Now that half of the female college students think Socialism is OK, I am scared!!!

JZ - 10-16-2021 at 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


there are travel blogs that advise it. I know you are under the delusion that the US is the greatest country on earth, but almost no one outside the US agrees, and most wouldn't move to the US if you paid them to.

Canada Communist? I see. Another right winger like you, bandying words about she doesn't understand the meaning of.


Travel blogs, really?

And now you are bashing the USA? Remind me of Canada's greatest contribution(s) to the world?

Be thankful that the US is your Southern "border wall" and has protected you for hundreds of years overall.



[Edited on 10-17-2021 by JZ]

Mulege Canuck - 10-17-2021 at 06:50 AM

I got a lot of great Merican buddies. We love sheet talkin each other about our accents, politics, crappy Merican beer 😎

Canada and the USA are like two brothers who fight all the time but still care about each other..

David K - 10-17-2021 at 08:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
I got a lot of great Merican buddies. We love sheet talkin each other about our accents, politics, crappy Merican beer 😎

Canada and the USA are like two brothers who fight all the time but still care about each other..


Nicely said, brother! Good day, eh?

white whale - 11-4-2021 at 01:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
I wanna see a Timmy's on the beach!


Wait until the Brazil hedge fund that owns it gives up on the current failures and proper ownership returns for a North American Battle Royale :
Tims V Dunkin V Krispy





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white whale - 11-4-2021 at 02:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


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Travel blogs, really?

And now you are bashing the USA? Remind me of Canada's greatest contribution(s) to the world?

Be thankful that the US is your Southern "border wall" and has protected you for hundreds of years overall.





[Edited on 10-17-2021 by JZ]


Border rager comments didn't disappoint. Canada did blow the border opening of course. Vax fine but PCR test also?? US not requiring. Those car battery sized cheap cheese blocks will have to remain on the shelves for the day trippers who will have wait some more.

Great Canadian inventions, good one. Yes will never stack up on that score. I knew we had insulin and basketball. Consider Real inventions only, not tacked on patents or stuff that didn't need inventing.....

We can share AG Bell and all his inventions- ok telephone has some italian in there too
And the Lightbulb, original patent

my nods to:
Plexiglass
AM radio
Sonar
IMAX film
snowblower

honorable mention:
canola oil
peanut butter

Best and most useful in everyday application: Robertson screw head.

mtgoat666 - 11-4-2021 at 02:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Remind me of Canada's greatest contribution(s) to the world?


Poutine
Nanaimo bars
Leonard Cohen
Coffee crisp candy bar
Rush
Maple syrup
Dan akroyd
Acosta gneiss
Heartland tv show
Burgess Shale
Tim hortons
Canada dry
Diana Krall
Steve-O





Lee - 11-4-2021 at 07:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Remind me of Canada's greatest contribution(s) to the world?


Poutine
Nanaimo bars
Leonard Cohen
Coffee crisp candy bar
Rush
Maple syrup
Dan akroyd
Acosta gneiss
Heartland tv show
Burgess Shale
Tim hortons
Canada dry
Diana Krall
Steve-O


Neil Young
Gordon Lightfoot
Joni Mitchell
k.d. lang
Bryan Adams
Michael Buble
The Band

windgrrl - 11-4-2021 at 07:51 PM

Insulin
Heparin
First medical use of radiation therapy
First child safety caps for medicine containers
Discovery of T-cell receptor
Identification of cycstic fibrosis gene
First HIV prevention vaccine
Pacemaker
Canadarm
William Shatner
Colin James
Eh?





JZ - 11-4-2021 at 08:01 PM

Let's be honest, that's a pretty short list after several weeks to come up with something.

I can think of a couple Canadian girls I've met over the years who were really fun and quality ppl, though. But they definitely weren't Libs hiding in their basements the last 18 months.

Howard - 11-4-2021 at 09:36 PM

Sergeant Preston and his dog King.

JZ - 11-4-2021 at 09:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Howard  
Sergeant Preston and his dog King.


Where are you now Howard? Pacific side? How's the weather?

Safe travels.




[Edited on 11-5-2021 by JZ]

white whale - 11-5-2021 at 09:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Remind me of Canada's greatest contribution(s) to the world?


Poutine
Nanaimo bars
Leonard Cohen
Coffee crisp candy bar
Rush
Maple syrup
Dan akroyd
Acosta gneiss
Heartland tv show
Burgess Shale
Tim hortons
Canada dry
Diana Krall
Steve-O


Neil Young
Gordon Lightfoot
Joni Mitchell
k.d. lang
Bryan Adams
Michael Buble
The Band



I stayed away from cultural contributions because we also gave the world
this load which is a pretty big stain to carry.

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