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Renewed restrictions in La Paz

pauldavidmena - 6-3-2022 at 06:34 AM

Per the most recent Gringo Gazette, La Paz is bringing back some COVID-19 restrictions like masks and capacity limitations.

AKgringo - 6-3-2022 at 10:39 AM

Uh-oh!....I better hoard some more toilet paper!

JZ - 6-3-2022 at 10:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Uh-oh!....I better hoard some more toilet paper!

Here is a tip for you. Buy baby wipes. Even when TP was hard to get, baby wipes were readily available.

Alm - 6-14-2022 at 08:22 PM

Hypothetically, if everybody had followed distancing and masking "back then", we wouldn't have had that many deaths. Distancing is the only thing that works 100%. Keeping safe distance indoors is next to impossible, virus accumulates in enclosed space, recommended 6ft is not enough there.

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JZ - 6-14-2022 at 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Hypothetically, if everybody had followed distancing and masking "back then", we wouldn't have had that many deaths. Distancing is the only thing that works 100%.

Less than 7K under 30 died in the US in 2 and a half years. Of those, the vast majority died with Covid, not because of Covid.

Lock downs had crushing emotional and financial impacts on people and did very little to stop the spread.

And now those lock downs are playing a major factor with inflation and ultimately the reduction of retirement funds of millions and millions.

The WHO said from the start that lock downs only help medical personal get ready, they aren't good for the long term. The CDC and many state governors sh#t the bed by ignoring the WHO.

mtgoat666 - 6-14-2022 at 09:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Hypothetically, if everybody had followed distancing and masking "back then", we wouldn't have had that many deaths. Distancing is the only thing that works 100%.

Less than 7K under 30 died in the US in 2 and a half years. Of those, the vast majority died with Covid, not because of Covid.

You are always going on about children and covid/fentanyl. I think you are a Pygmy, pedo, drug addict.

Over 1,000,000 died of covid in usa. In same period less than 200,000 died from drug-involved overdoses.

Pedo Pygmy: Did your elders survive covid?

JZ - 6-14-2022 at 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Hypothetically, if everybody had followed distancing and masking "back then", we wouldn't have had that many deaths. Distancing is the only thing that works 100%.

Less than 7K under 30 died in the US in 2 and a half years. Of those, the vast majority died with Covid, not because of Covid.

Look in the mirror, you are the one trying to teach 7 yo's about sexuality.

Getting back on topic

pauldavidmena - 6-15-2022 at 05:11 AM

Any recent reports on conditions from anyone in the municipality of La Paz? When I visited Todos Santos in February, masking at restaurants and shops was universal. Landscapers even wore masks - outside. Businesses stayed open, visitors complied with restrictions, and we returned to the U.S. without the gift of COVID.

JDCanuck - 6-15-2022 at 05:47 AM

Everyone was wearing masks indoors in restaurants and stores in La Paz when I was there 2 weeks ago, thought it was mandated then. What has changed since?
Small towns and villages were not following that rule consistently tho.

mtgoat666 - 6-15-2022 at 06:09 AM

Middle-aged Friends from San Diego flew to south for a resort stay. 3 got covid. 1 got hospitalized with pneumonia. Looks like the hospitalized person will survive, but story is ongoing…

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SFandH - 6-15-2022 at 08:09 AM

I went for a Moderna booster and bought a new package of masks Sunday. Better safe than sorry. I wish good luck to those that are behaving as though the pandemic is over. Maybe so, but next month, maybe not. I'm still avoiding indoor crowds and masking up when I can't.

Airplanes? Sure the air is recirculated through effective (maybe) filters, but when the guy sitting next to you, so close you're almost touching, sneezes you'll inhale his exhaust before it hits any filters. Risky.

JZ - 6-15-2022 at 08:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

I went for a Moderna booster and bought a new package of masks Sunday. Better safe than sorry. I wish good luck to those that are behaving as though the pandemic is over. Maybe so, but next month, maybe not. I'm still avoiding indoor crowds and masking up when I can't.

Airplanes? Sure the air is recirculated through effective (maybe) filters, but when the guy sitting next to you, so close you're almost touching, sneezes you'll inhale his exhaust before it hits any filters. Risky.

Millions and millions and millions have flown for 2 years. Only a very small number of cases attributable to planes. I believe one was attributable to sitting on the tarmac for an extended period of time.

Follow the science, air travel is very safe.

I don't get why ppl are always rooting for the virus.

Alan - 6-15-2022 at 08:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Uh-oh!....I better hoard some more toilet paper!

If you have the Gringo Gazette you already have that covered :biggrin:

AKgringo - 6-15-2022 at 08:31 AM

The one good thing to come out of the last couple of years of pandemic, is not being jammed up in lines with someone practically breathing down your neck!

A little social distancing is a good thing.

Alm - 6-15-2022 at 12:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Follow the science, air travel is very safe.

I don't get why ppl are always rooting for the virus.

One million dead in the US alone and there are still idi.ots trying to tell that epidemic is a hoax. He "doesn't get" why people are taking their health seriously, no kidding.

caj13 - 6-15-2022 at 02:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

Hypothetically, if everybody had followed distancing and masking "back then", we wouldn't have had that many deaths. Distancing is the only thing that works 100%.

Less than 7K under 30 died in the US in 2 and a half years. Of those, the vast majority died with Covid, not because of Covid.

Got a citation on that info?

Lock downs had crushing emotional and financial impacts on people and did very little to stop the spread.
wrong again - where do you get these Uh - "alternate facts" do you bjust make this crap up - or are you parotting some right wing MAGA facebook pge?

And now those lock downs are playing a major factor with inflation and ultimately the reduction of retirement funds of millions and millions.

once again - citation? some actual facts?

The WHO said from the start that lock downs only help medical personal get ready, they aren't good for the long term. The CDC and many state governors sh#t the bed by ignoring the WHO.

JZ - 6-15-2022 at 03:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13

Got a citation on that info?

From the CDC. It's been posted a 100 times on here. Less than 27K for people under forty.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

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JZ - 6-15-2022 at 03:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

One million dead in the US alone and there are still idi.ots trying to tell that epidemic is a hoax. He "doesn't get" why people are taking their health seriously, no kidding.

Who said it is a hoax? For certain ppl based on age and health it's very, very low risk.

For others, it's very high risk.

You protect the ones at risk and don't lock down the ones who are at very low risk.

It's pretty simple. And what I said about travel on planes is 100% true. You seem to like to argue with facts and science.

RFClark - 6-15-2022 at 05:13 PM

Dear Liberal Name Caller,

In the same period Over 1,000,000 Americans died from using tobacco or breathing 2nd hand smoke! Please Note that the President you voted for hasn’t done a damn thing and the governments you support are still taking the tax money or in some cases even selling tobacco! This has been going on for generations not 2 years!

So how are you any more moral than the guy you’re calling names? Drug deaths, including tobacco kill more every year with hardly a ripple!

Then there are the 10’s of thousands of elderly who were condemned to death by Government edict in NY, NJ and Ct! That’s just plain murder!

JZ - 6-15-2022 at 07:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Lock downs had crushing emotional and financial impacts on people and did very little to stop the spread.

wrong again - where do you get these Uh - "alternate facts" do you bjust make this crap up - or are you parotting some right wing MAGA facebook pge?

You need to do a little research. What I said has been printed in the NYT's many times in the last six months.

Do you actually think it was good for ppl's mental well being to be locked down for two years.

There have an a litany of studies from left leaning organizations on how harmful it was on kids' development.

gnukid - 6-15-2022 at 08:25 PM

Hey Senior Nomads Big Announcement, Bars will close at 3AM in La Paz!

Don't push your luck buddy!

After 3AM move to a private party!

surabi - 6-15-2022 at 09:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by caj13

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Lock downs had crushing emotional and financial impacts on people and did very little to stop the spread.

wrong again - where do you get these Uh - "alternate facts" do you bjust make this crap up - or are you parotting some right wing MAGA facebook pge?

Do you actually think it was good for ppl's mental well being to be locked down for two years.

There have an a litany of studies from left leaning organizations on how harmful it was on kids' development.

No one was " locked down for 2 years". Name one place where that was the case.

The pandemic was hard on everyone's mental health. And I can assure you it was a lot harder on the mental health of the children whose parents died of Covid, or the families of those who died or spent weeks in the hospital than it was on those who had to restrict their movements and wear masks once in awhile.

While I was waiting for my Pfizer vax at the regional hospital the other day, there was a young woman, her young daughter, who looked to be about 4 years old, and what I assumed was the woman's teenaged brother ahead of me in the line-up. Middle class Mexicans. The teenager was the one who was getting vaxed, I guess she just brought him there because he was too young to drive.

All of them were masked, as was everyone else. We were waiting in line outside for an hour and a half, and it took another 45 minutes once we were let in the door. A long time to wait for a 4 year old.

That little girl had her mask, which fit her really well, on the whole time, she was super well-behaved and acted like any normal 4 year old, skipping around when we were outside, playing song and hand games with her mom and teenaged uncle, laughing and happy. That little girl was obviously quite accustomed to wearing her mask and certainly did not appear to be suffering from any mental health or developmental issues.

My youngest granddaughter was born in October 2019. Most of her life so far was spent during lockdowns, and masking requirements. My daughter had her "bubbles" of friends and neighbors, as did pretty much everyone- the child wasn't suffering from social isolation and she is most certainly not developmentally delayed. And I would suggest that any study that claims that children suffered from mental health or developmental issues due to the pandemic measures is a useless study if it doesn't also examine the behavior of the parents. Parents who made sure their kids got lots of fresh air and exercise, played with and stimulated their children- I'd be willing to bet their kids didn't suffer because of pandemic measures.

Using your false concern for children's mental health as an excuse to keep acting like Covid was some overblown hoax is disgusting.

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JZ - 6-15-2022 at 10:24 PM

Studies say millions of kids were negatively impacted and set back years, but you don't care because your 2 yo wasn't impacted. That's mighty caring of you.

Next tell us how little you care about all the small businesses that were crushed.

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surabi - 6-15-2022 at 10:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Studies say millions of kids were negatively impacted and set back years.

Bullchit. Link to those studies?

How can anyone accurately predict how any individual child would have developed had things been normal?

I'm sure there were plenty of kids who suffered because the only time they get stimulated is at school. Their parents are losers who sat on the computer or watching TV all day, were annoyed at having the kids at home all day, and didn't take daily outings with their kids, read to them, do schoolwork with them or make any effort at all to go out of their way to make sure their kids were getting attention, stimulation and learning.

To say I don't care about othe kids because my granddaughter is fine is just more of your bs. I happen to have 6 grandkids and know plenty of people with children, and not one of those kids was "set back years" because of Covid restrictions. I care about kids, but I can't do anything about their lazy, loser parents.

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surfhat - 6-16-2022 at 07:47 AM

Thank you surabi. A true voice of reason.

Parenting, parenting, parenting. More like the lack there of.

I see it everyday. My parents parented. Of course they came from the Greatest Generation and in many ways it was. Others not so much. haha Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

What a shame parents have needed to actually parent their kids through the pandemic.

That need will not end whether the pandemic ends or not. It will not. it will continue to do what virus' do. Constant change.

Oh well. I have learned not to appeal to some here for reason.

JZ - 6-16-2022 at 08:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surfhat

Thank you surabi. A true voice of reason.

Parenting, parenting, parenting. More like the lack there of.

I see it everyday. My parents parented. Of course they came from the Greatest Generation and in many ways it was. Others not so much. haha Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

What a shame parents have needed to actually parent their kids through the pandemic.

That need will not end whether the pandemic ends or not. It will not. it will continue to do what virus' do. Constant change.

Oh well. I have learned not to appeal to some here for reason.

You are letting your privilege show. Do you think all kids come from homes with two parents? What about minority communities? Do you not think parents have to work to put food on the table?

She also has zero compassion for mothers who can't find baby formula. Telling them to suck it up and breast feed with no concern if they have already stopped, can't breast feed, and/or it is very difficult because the moms have to work.

What I'm seeing is a, "It doesn't affect me, so deal with it" attitude.

I'm still waiting to see if there is any compassion for the millions of ppl and families who were ruined financially because of lockdowns. Whose businesses were permanently closed (while big box chains gained market share).

How about the huge hit in ppl's retirement savings 401Ks from the issues that lockdowns created. Or is that again a case of, it didn't impact me so I don't give a rats azz?

Not in Baja, but....

AKgringo - 6-16-2022 at 08:48 AM

Here in Nevada county CA, the local hospital is having problems. Not because of they are being overwhelmed by patients (there is a moderate increase in cases) but the most recent virus strain has no respect for masks and vaccines. A large number of the hospital staff have tested positive, and are in quarantine!

David K - 6-16-2022 at 09:56 AM

Anthony Fauci has Covid now and that proves without a doubt that multiple shots and boosters (and masks) do not prevent it! Unless the good doctor didn't practice what he preached? Photos of him maskless at events he recently attended seem to point in that direction?

Of course, you can't stop a virus from making you sick but the vaccine should reduce the degree of illness and prevent hospitalization... just like getting a flu shot does.

Lee - 6-16-2022 at 10:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by surfhat

She also has zero compassion for mothers who can't find baby formula. Telling them to suck it up and breast feed with no concern if they have already stopped, can't breast feed, and/or it is very difficult because the moms have to work.

I've stopped commenting on posts like this. But here I go.

2 years of preaching conspiracy theories, poo-pooing covid, masks, lock downs, vaccine's, precautions, blaming gov't, Fauci, everyone and everything in California. Blah blah blah.

Pay no attention to JZ's rants. One of the unhappiest people on this forum. Resents taking responsibility for his kids at home.

Seriously, relax with the kids and blaming privilege. Use your privilege to make things better -- starting with looking in the mirror. It's all going to be OK. Maybe not for your kids, but luck of the draw on that and their generation.

You worry too much. Count your blessings.

SFandH - 6-16-2022 at 10:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Here in Nevada county CA, the local hospital is having problems. Not because of they are being overwhelmed by patients (there is a moderate increase in cases) but the most recent virus strain has no respect for masks and vaccines. A large number of the hospital staff have tested positive, and are in quarantine!

BA.4 and BA.5 subvariants rates of infection are rising. Highly transmissable, mild symptoms.

"Generally, BA.4 and BA.5 variants cause mild disease but spread in large numbers potentially because, unlike the Wuhan strain, which settles in the lungs, these newer strains seem to attach to the more benign upper nasal passages. As with other Omicron variants, BA.4 and BA.5 symptoms are generally mild, and may include fever, malaise, and loss of smell, although the prevalence of long-term symptoms (long COVID) is still being evaluated. Serious illness is rare but possible, especially in the unvaccinated."

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/99082

I got sick with the Omicron variant in January, at the peak. It was all upper respiratory, nothing in my lungs, no fever. BUT, my nasal passages were so clogged that I couldn't even blow my nose. No air whatsoever could get through my nose, zero. I had to dig to clear a passage. I was down and out for 2 weeks due to extreme fatique. Read some interesting books.

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JZ - 6-16-2022 at 11:09 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Resents taking responsibility for his kids at home.

In the Fall of 2020 I sent my kids out of state where they could go to in person classes and play on sports teams (btw, Governor Newsom sent his kids to private school so they could attend in-person. I can hear him laughing at the common folk while sipping his wine at the French Landry).

We flew across country and moved them in. Life is good here. I'm concerned what the lock downs did to others who didn't have the same options. You guys don't seem to care at all about them.

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mtgoat666 - 6-16-2022 at 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Resents taking responsibility for his kids at home.

Short stuff:
Sounds like you are jealous of newsome :lol:

He can afford to send his kids to private school, so what?
He ate at a fancy restaurant, so what? I hope he enjoyed it!
You are unhappy to be a maga fool in liberal california… why dont you move to one of the red states and quit complaining and start living your red maga dream?

surabi - 6-16-2022 at 09:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Anthony Fauci has Covid now and that proves without a doubt that multiple shots and boosters (and masks) do not prevent it! Unless the good doctor didn't practice what he preached? Photos of him maskless at events he recently attended seem to point in that direction?

Of course, you can't stop a virus from making you sick but the vaccine should reduce the degree of illness and prevent hospitalization... just like getting a flu shot does.

Have you been asleep for the past year? Your totally clueless post would certainly indicate so.

No one EVER claimed that 2 doses of the vaccine and boosters would prevent contracting Covid. It DOES reduce the degree of illness and prevents hospitalization and death. That's exactly what it does, as has been widely studied, documented, and reported. Yet somehow you missed all that?

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/05/vaccines...

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surabi - 6-16-2022 at 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

It seems that JZ cares so much about everyone that he would have advocated zero measures to try to contain the spread of a deadly virus that has killed almost 6 and a half million people in 2 and a half years. (and those are only documented cases- it is estimated that the death toll is far higher) Not to mention the millions who are suffering with long Covid.

No lockdowns, no masking, no distancing, no quarantines, no closed borders, no vaccines, no testing, just happily carrying on normally, pretending that everyone getting sick and dying was no big deal.

He dismisses the "only" 7000 dead under the age of 30, and keeps citing other things people die of, as if one more cause of death, which is largely preventable with the proper measures, is irrelevant. Had the world had JZs in charge, we'd have 60 million dead, not 6. That's how much he cares.

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