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supercharged V8 Raptor R

Don Pisto - 7-12-2022 at 06:21 PM

well we haven't had a good car thread in awhile....next week Ford is busting this out....same motor that in the Shelby GT500. Im kind of terrified past 70 but you thrill seekers buckle up! man I'd like to see this in a standard cab.....


[Edited on 7-13-2022 by Don Pisto]

[Edited on 7-13-2022 by Don Pisto]

TMW - 7-12-2022 at 06:45 PM

If fast and speed are what you're looking for get a Tesla. They'll leave a Raptor in the dust.

PaulW - 7-13-2022 at 06:55 AM

From a news feed:
people have shared that their dealers have stated that the Raptor R is already sold out, even though order books haven’t opened yet.
2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R, which marks the return of the V8 engine to that model for the first time since its first generation years ago. Now, we know exactly when the 2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R will debut – July 18th – as the automaker itself has confirmed via Twitter.

[Edited on 7-13-2022 by PaulW]

bajatrailrider - 7-13-2022 at 07:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
If fast and speed are what you're looking for get a Tesla. They'll leave a Raptor in the dust.
:) Any gas off road truck leaves Tesla in the dust No stop to recharge :biggrin:

TMW - 7-13-2022 at 07:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
If fast and speed are what you're looking for get a Tesla. They'll leave a Raptor in the dust.
:) Any gas off road truck leaves Tesla in the dust No stop to recharge :biggrin:


Carry a generator with you.

0-60 Tesla 3.2 sec. Raptor 4.8 sec. Raptors are nothing more than a refurbished Hummer.

PaulW - 7-13-2022 at 07:54 AM

Tesla and Raptor would cover about the same distance on the highway.
With a 12" clearance for a Raptor and the Tesla has maybe 4"
Which one would you prefer off road?
The Tesla would be nice for the commute on the highway from Mexicali to San Felipe. One Tesla charging station noted in San Felipe. Many more on the west coast.

I think I read about an available trailer for a Tesla. Of course gasoline ICE generator.

David K - 7-13-2022 at 10:35 AM

Tesla has a 'truck'... coming soon:


Don Pisto - 7-13-2022 at 11:38 AM

760 horsepower not enough? Whipple is already selling their aftermarket supercharger kit that'll put you in the 2K Hp range! hang on!:o

TMW - 7-13-2022 at 07:19 PM

A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]

Don Pisto - 7-13-2022 at 07:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]


you got to get out of that Bakersfield heat Tom!:rolleyes:

bajatrailrider - 7-14-2022 at 07:11 AM

HAAA Tom maybe correct but my 1000.00 dirt bike can go where the Tacoma cant go. No matter raptor more fun then both.

TMW - 7-14-2022 at 10:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]


you got to get out of that Bakersfield heat Tom!:rolleyes:


Ask David about Cameron not getting into Mission Santa Maria with the Raptors. Too big and too wide. While your at it ask him about my Tacoma getting into the same mission. You can read about our trip here
https://vivabaja.com/msm2022/

Don Pisto - 7-14-2022 at 10:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]


you got to get out of that Bakersfield heat Tom!:rolleyes:


Ask David about Cameron not getting into Mission Santa Maria with the Raptors. Too big and too wide. While your at it ask him about my Tacoma getting into the same mission. You can read about our trip here
https://vivabaja.com/msm2022/



THIS is a quote from Cameron Steele......
Cameron Steele
"The Toyota is cute but has no where near the capability of a raptor or the utility ability of the F250."

Don Pisto - 7-14-2022 at 10:46 AM

my apologies gentlemen I guess I lament the good ol' days when guys got together and talked about fast cars and hot chicks, guess it doesn't fly here, especially among the buck owen's crowd!:D

SFandH - 7-14-2022 at 11:08 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  


I lament the good ol' days when guys got together and talked about fast cars and hot chicks........


Hangin' Five.......She could drive my Raptor. :cool:

hangin 5.jpg - 253kB

or hangin' Ten

hangin 10.png - 159kB


[Edited on 7-14-2022 by SFandH]

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2022 at 11:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]


you got to get out of that Bakersfield heat Tom!:rolleyes:


Ask David about Cameron not getting into Mission Santa Maria with the Raptors. Too big and too wide. While your at it ask him about my Tacoma getting into the same mission. You can read about our trip here
https://vivabaja.com/msm2022/



THIS is a quote from Cameron Steele......
Cameron Steele
"The Toyota is cute but has no where near the capability of a raptor or the utility ability of the F250."


You are comparing apples and oranges.
Different strokes for different folks.

David K - 7-14-2022 at 11:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]


you got to get out of that Bakersfield heat Tom!:rolleyes:


Ask David about Cameron not getting into Mission Santa Maria with the Raptors. Too big and too wide. While your at it ask him about my Tacoma getting into the same mission. You can read about our trip here
https://vivabaja.com/msm2022/



THIS is a quote from Cameron Steele......
Cameron Steele
"The Toyota is cute but has no where near the capability of a raptor or the utility ability of the F250."


Cameron is a big and fast, truck guy (he races trophy trucks). When I suggested I could drive my Tacoma and join the Trail of Missions that way, he just dismissed the idea... sort of an image thing, I guess... only full-sized trucks... like a Tundra could join the fleet of Raptors. Casey Currie was allowed to drive his new 4-door Jeep Wrangler, however. That was the first Trail of Missions in 2014. Since I couldn't join in my Tacoma, Cameron had me flown down to join the group in a helicopter... which was an OK compromise! LOL

See the first Trail of Missions TV show on CBS Sports: https://youtu.be/gio1kxBoPoc
My two short talking parts are at Minute 5:40 and 9:37 Casey cut the tip of his thump off surfing at Punta San Carlos, so he flew back with me at the end of Day 3. His wife drove to the airport in El Cajon from Riverside (I think?) to take him to the hospital. Cameron comments after I talk at El Rosario mission about the Jeep might need an extra fuel service as the Jeeps have such small tanks.

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2022 at 11:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A Raptor can't go where my Tacoma can.

My ex son-in-law has a Raptor paid $118,000 for it. Another $10,000 and it's ready for off-road, maybe. They are nothing more than a high priced bucket of bolts.

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by TMW]


you got to get out of that Bakersfield heat Tom!:rolleyes:


Ask David about Cameron not getting into Mission Santa Maria with the Raptors. Too big and too wide. While your at it ask him about my Tacoma getting into the same mission. You can read about our trip here
https://vivabaja.com/msm2022/



THIS is a quote from Cameron Steele......
Cameron Steele
"The Toyota is cute but has no where near the capability of a raptor or the utility ability of the F250."


Cameron is a big and fast, truck guy (he races trophy trucks). When I suggested I could drive my Tacoma and join the Trail of Missions that way, he just dismissed the idea... sort of an image thing, I guess... only full-sized trucks...


He is running an offroad carny show focused speed and thrills of making dust fly.
Most of us go to back country and poke along slowly to enjoy wilderness experience. Most of us have practical/affordable vehicles that work adequately offroad.


willardguy - 7-14-2022 at 12:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
especially among the buck owen's crowd!:D


in Tom's defense you'd be angry too if you woke up in that hellhole every morning!:lol:

Raptor into Mission Santa Maria site

Barry A. - 7-14-2022 at 02:44 PM

If Toyota Pickups with a camper, or a 4x4 mini-motorhome can make it into the Mission, surely a Raptor can??? My Son has a Raptor---they are big-----but not as big as a mini-motorhome?!?!?!?!?


[Edited on 7-14-2022 by Barry A.]

David K - 7-14-2022 at 03:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
If Toyota Pickups with a camper, or a 4x4 mini-motorhome can make it into the Mission, surely a Raptor can??? My Son has a Raptor---they are big-----but not as big as a mini-motorhome?!?!?!?!?


[Edited on 7-14-2022 by Barry A.]

Good observation... maybe Art (edm1) should give Cameron some driving lessons?







He was puling Neal Johns' camper too!



In all fairness, Cameron did get past the Widowmaker and was stopped at the deep dips that are within sight of the mission. He called me from Baja Cactus that evening to give me his report. He was solo and it just wasn't worth the chance should he get hung up.

Barry A. - 7-14-2022 at 03:29 PM

Thanks, David. My Son's Raptor sure has better and more sophisticated suspension than a Hummer, too. It's a dream to ride in even in the rough!!! (-:

Still, that road into Santa Maria Mission is a potential killer-----always amazes me that folks drive in there.

TMW - 7-14-2022 at 04:26 PM

It was an interesting drive to the mission. The Jeep Grand Cherokee did not have a locker so it took some trail building etc to get it in and out. bajatrailrider's $1000 bike only has two wheels so it should be a piece of cake to get into and out OK. But it doesn't have a cooler full of beer for the rest stops.

David K - 7-14-2022 at 05:03 PM

I am so grateful that Tom invited me to go with him to Mission Santa María, last March, twenty-three years after my first trip there.
Everything about that road is epic!

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2022 at 05:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
TIt's a dream to ride in even in the rough!!!


given the the price of a raptor, it better ride like a dream!

John Harper - 7-14-2022 at 06:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
TIt's a dream to ride in even in the rough!!!


given the the price of a raptor, it better ride like a dream!



Just saw an ad for a new Jeep Grand Wagoneer, starting at $89K. At least the Ford will likely stay together more than a couple years and not sell for peanuts later.

John

David K - 7-14-2022 at 07:14 PM

https://www.jeep.com/wagoneer/grand-wagoneer.html

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2022 at 07:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
TIt's a dream to ride in even in the rough!!!


given the the price of a raptor, it better ride like a dream!



Just saw an ad for a new Jeep Grand Wagoneer, starting at $89K. At least the Ford will likely stay together more than a couple years and not sell for peanuts later.

John


You gotta be a fool to spend $90k on a car!

David K - 7-15-2022 at 07:36 AM

Goat: A fool and his money are easily parted!

John: If you need something like a Grand Wagoneer, get a Toyota Sequoia or Land Cruiser and have a vehicle that could last even longer than a Ford!

Barry: The Raptors are sweet rides and when modified by Baja HQ, can really rip across the desert... turning money into dust, as Curt Leduc likes to say!


John Harper - 7-15-2022 at 12:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  


John: If you need something like a Grand Wagoneer, get a Toyota Sequoia or Land Cruiser and have a vehicle that could last even longer than a Ford!


You gotta be kidding me. Just got back from Wyoming (again!), 225K on the clock of my 2000 V6 3.0 Ranger. My little Ranger has gone everywhere I've needed to go over the last 18 years, and has never let me down. No need to upgrade. The 3.0 Vulcan motor is known to go over 300K with normal maintenance, and I plan to see that and more.

Not to mention, I keep it always in top condition, inside and out. I get compliments all the time on how good it looks for it's age.

John



[Edited on 7-15-2022 by John Harper]

David K - 7-15-2022 at 12:47 PM

Super lucky for you!
I almost bought a Ranger back in 2000... but an onslaught of feedback from the Amigos de Baja, especially Neal Johns, said to buy a Tacoma! When the Ford dealer wouldn't take my van as a trade in, but Toyota Carlsbad would... well, I have been super happy ever since!

Stepson's a mechanic and off road fabricator, who loves Ford, but his 4x4 Ranger sucked...
Poor kid then bought a Jeep Patriot (of all things)... another mistake... so many fixes!
He said he would have bought a Toyota but the price was just too much...

Quality costs, and not having to repair the thing, saves!

PaulW - 7-15-2022 at 01:20 PM

Cherry picking always gets you a good rig. There are plenty of trucks and cars that are pretty bad to be careful of. The domestic companies have the most misses to choose from.
Lately we see To coma and Tundra loosing favor and replaced by certain Fords. However in the bad days for Fords I had two that were great choices.
Homework give the best results. Pretty easy now days with the Internet.

Barry A. - 7-15-2022 at 01:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
TIt's a dream to ride in even in the rough!!!


given the the price of a raptor, it better ride like a dream!



Just saw an ad for a new Jeep Grand Wagoneer, starting at $89K. At least the Ford will likely stay together more than a couple years and not sell for peanuts later.

John


You gotta be a fool to spend $90k on a car!


Goat, you gotta look around. My Son paid 43K for his Raptor. It was 2 years old, in great shape, 15,000 miles on it, and the young rich original owner just wanted to get rid of it so his Dad would stop b-tching at him for spending so much money. LOL It's been a dream-truck----very few problems and my Son has had it for 10 years. (and, he is Single, has a great job, and has no debt----LOL)

I bought a 2 year old 1994 Ford F-250, manual tranny, ext. cab, long bed 4x4 for my Baja trips and it too has been a dream. Had to recharge the AC once, and put in a new brake Master Cylinder recently, but that is all that has gone wrong with it in some 26 years and over 60K rough Baja miles.

You gotta be careful when you shop and find great deals.


TMW - 7-15-2022 at 02:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  


John: If you need something like a Grand Wagoneer, get a Toyota Sequoia or Land Cruiser and have a vehicle that could last even longer than a Ford!


Just got back from Wyoming (again!), 225K on the clock of my 2000 V6 3.0 Ranger. My little Ranger has gone everywhere I've needed to go over the last 18 years, and has never let me down. No need to upgrade. The 3.0 Vulcan motor is known to go over 300K with normal maintenance, and I plan to see that and more.

John

[Edited on 7-15-2022 by John Harper]


1998-2011 Ford Rangers were built by Mazda. Your 2000 was based on the Mazda B series. A pretty good truck.

David K - 7-15-2022 at 02:32 PM

My dad owned a variety of vehicles.., the earliest I remember was a Chevy station wagon and a Ford Falcon.

Next, he got my mom a Mustang ('66 with the 287 V-8) and he had recently bought a Jeep Wagoneer ('65) with was the great Baja exploring vehicle of my youth.

The second Wagoneer was a 1970 and very problematic so he soon traded it for a big Chevy Suburban 4x4, which he loved but had a defective motor block, so with Highway One being finished, went with a 2WD: Ford LTD Country Squire station wagon.

He loved it and modified it for Baja with an extra fuel tank and adjustable air shocks... It drove about 150 dirt road miles including some of the original Baja 1000 road, as the highway was under construction in '73. That was his last car... served him until he was not able to drive any longer, around 1985.

In Laguna Chapala's dust bowl, next to the new road, July 1973:







I congratulate my dad for getting through the Laguna Chapala dust:


(I am the one with the Dick Cepek Baja Proven shirt on, LOL)



Mom was a great sport and loved going to Baja!

That location after the highway was finished, 2017 photo):

John Harper - 7-19-2022 at 05:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  

1998-2011 Ford Rangers were built by Mazda. Your 2000 was based on the Mazda B series. A pretty good truck.


Yes, bought it in 2004 for $8000. Pretty hard to convince me spending 10-12 times more today gets me a 10-12 times better truck. But, I'm far from the target market for those trucks. It also helps that I'm a pretty good mechanic and can fix almost any issue that arises.

John

[Edited on 7-19-2022 by John Harper]

AKgringo - 7-19-2022 at 06:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  

1998-2011 Ford Rangers were built by Mazda. Your 2000 was based on the Mazda B series. A pretty good truck.


Yes, bought it in 2004 for $8000. Pretty hard to convince me spending 10-12 times more today gets me a 10-12 times better truck. But, I'm far from the target market for those trucks. It also helps that I'm a pretty good mechanic and can fix almost any issue that arises.

John

[Edited on 7-19-2022 by John Harper]


The early version of the Kia Sportage also used a Mazda light truck engine and drive train until 2002. The only thing that the 2004 and later Sportage shares with the first version is the name!

bajatrailrider - 7-19-2022 at 12:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
It was an interesting drive to the mission. The Jeep Grand Cherokee did not have a locker so it took some trail building etc to get it in and out. bajatrailrider's $1000 bike only has two wheels so it should be a piece of cake to get into and out OK. But it doesn't have a cooler full of beer for the rest stops.
HAHA dont need beer to do this ride only 45 min on dirt bike :)