BajaNomad - Cartel chaos currently in northern Baja

We did notice increased army and police patrols in San Felipe and La Paz when we passed through about 10 days ago.

The current reports and pictures seem to originate from the TJ area. No civilians have been reported injured in the vehicle burnings Friday.

In other news this week, 6 people were burned to death and others injured in a fiery Los Angeles auto crash caused by a multiple offender driving 80 MPH through a red light. The woman driver is finally being held without bail by the usually no bail LA D.A. Almost a first for LA!

Frankly, I feel safer in Baja Sur.

At least in California, crime gangs don’t start car fires nationwide to protest arrests of their leaders!

Pretty silly to compare California to baja. Cal has population of 39M over 164K sq mile area, and a >$3 trillion economy.

You live in a rural Mexican state with pop of 800k.

Plenty of rural areas in CA with better safety and health statistics than BCS.

[Edited on 8-13-2022 by mtgoat666]

John Harper - 8-13-2022 at 05:44 AM

In other news this week, 6 people were burned to death and others injured in a fiery Los Angeles auto crash caused by a multiple offender driving 80 MPH through a red light. The woman driver is finally being held without bail by the usually no bail LA D.A. Almost a first for LA!

The video of this accident is horrific. Apparently, the driver was a nurse, not on drugs or alcohol, and had been involved in 13 prior accidents. The pictures of her in court showed complete indifference. Who drives 90 mph on city streets and doesn't expect a catastrophic result?

John

Cartel Terrorism - Now!

SFandH - 8-13-2022 at 06:10 AM

Some very serious chit is happening. More is expected.

"24 vehicles were set on fire in four hours… in five of the 7 Baja California municipalities, Mexicali, Tecate, Ensenada, Tijuana and Rosarito. Tractor trucks, cargo trucks, freight trucks, passenger trucks, compact cars, vans."

"Javier Adrián Beltrán Cabrera is the first suspect of having organized and ordered the narco-blockades in Baja California on Friday, August 12, according to the initial indications received by the intelligence areas of the corporations integrated into the Coordination Table for the Peace and security."

"The criminals crossed the cars and set them on fire in different roads, all main and high traffic, they even blocked bridges, closed the toll road in both lanes at the height of Rosarito, also the entrance to Tijuana through the Garita de San Isidro, burned cars next to hospitals, sports stadiums, to terrify and attract attention.

They did it during peak hours, at the end of work, between 5:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. on Friday, August 12, after 9:00 p.m. the reports of fires were reduced. The rows of smoke in the sky, and the howl of the sirens of firemen and patrols was the constant.

The burning or wet and smoking cars were in at least 20 streets throughout the state, in total there were 24 accidents in which 28 motor vehicles were consumed by fire, while the municipal and state authorities decided to suspend all communication."

https://zetatijuana.com/2022/08/baja-california-en-llamas-pu...

[Edited on 8-13-2022 by SFandH]

Goat did you sleep through all this?

RFClark - 8-13-2022 at 07:31 AM

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/04/39-photos-capture-ame...

D0E620C8-0A34-41B2-9015-BCE9689F762F.jpeg - 300kB

SFandH - 8-13-2022 at 07:35 AM

Can't you stay on topic? You're posting photos from 2 years ago in US.

[Edited on 8-13-2022 by SFandH]

mtgoat666 - 8-13-2022 at 07:50 AM

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/04/39-photos-capture-ame...

New generation cartel waging nationwide terror campaign is a bit worse than a social protest that got out of hand, eh? Clarkie, I think the George Floyd killing by police was abominable,… I totally understand why people would riot in response to institutionalized racism/police brutality. The cops in George Floyd killing were all bad, and reflected a pervasive rot amongst the police force, where cops turn a blind eye while watching a cop commit murder, because loyalty to blue means more than doing the right thing.

RFClark - 8-13-2022 at 07:57 AM

Goat,

I’m not sure the people who’s lives were destroyed and businesses burned see the difference in the lawlessness. I know that the dead don’t nor do I!

mtgoat666 - 8-13-2022 at 08:12 AM

Goat,

I’m not sure the people who’s lives were destroyed and businesses burned see the difference in the lawlessness. I know that the dead don’t nor do I!

Sounds like you are part of the problem of institutionalized racism.. Try opening your mind and being part of the solution.

David K - 8-13-2022 at 08:39 AM

Discover Baja Travel Club email just now:

Due to country-wide cartel violence, there have been numerous cases of vehicle fires, roadblocks, and heavy police activity throughout Northern Baja in Tijuana, Mexicali, Rosarito, Ensenada, and Tecate. The problems started last night (Friday, August 12th) and are expected to continue through the weekend until at least Sunday night. Authorities are urging everyone to stay at home and off the roads. Curfews have been in effect throughout the region. Please avoid travel in this area through the weekend. If you are in the area, authorities advise staying home or in your hotel until the situation improves.

mtgoat666 - 8-13-2022 at 08:48 AM

Cartel promises mass violence in all of Northern Baja through the weekend

The message from the cartel:

“As of Friday at 10 p.m. through Sunday at 3 a.m. we’re going to create mass chaos so the government frees our people, we’re the Jalisco Cartel Nueva Generación, we don’t want to hurt good people but it’s best they don’t go outside, we’re going to attack anyone we see on the streets on these days.”

https://www.borderreport.com/news/cartel-promises-mass-viole...

bajatrailrider - 8-13-2022 at 09:25 AM

Reminds me of riots in Cali but less. Anyone going past TJ or Ensenada today. Have friend just this morning passed TJ and Ensenada . With motos on trailer reported clear no problems.

Terry28 - 8-13-2022 at 09:33 AM

strange, the music festival in Rosarito goes on without a hitch!! thousands and thousands of people....

Bajazly - 8-13-2022 at 10:09 AM

The Code and Record offroad race that was going to be today was cancelled.

RFClark - 8-13-2022 at 10:12 AM

Goat,

I sure all the minorities who lost their lives, businesses and jobs will disagree with you that it was institutional racism that destroyed their lives, but if that’s what you see from under your bed enjoy!

mtgoat666 - 8-13-2022 at 10:26 AM

Goat,

I sure all the minorities who lost their lives, businesses and jobs will disagree with you that it was institutional racism that destroyed their lives, but if that’s what you see from under your bed enjoy!

Clarkie,
I don’t understand why you try to minimize the severity of this weeks cartel terrorism by suggesting that usa race protests were worse.
Why don’t you try to paint a good picture of Mexico by comparing todays terrorism to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

The cartel terrorism is pretty outrageous, taking place across several states in Mexico, in coordinated terror attacks, and even along the usa border. When the consulate tells expats and tourists to shelter in place for entire weekend of terrorism, things are a bit over the top and dare I say, abnormal and just plain wrong!

[Edited on 8-13-2022 by mtgoat666]

SFandH - 8-13-2022 at 10:44 AM

On the other hand, I haven't read about anybody getting killed or injured because of arson. Maybe, but I haven't seen it.

The local news says it's quiet.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/seccion/tijuana/

mtgoat666 - 8-13-2022 at 10:59 AM

I’m not in favor of lawlessness in general. Both Mexico and the US have problems.

Yesterday the cartels burned about 24 trucks and busses in TJ and Ensenada, BC North. They, to my reading of the reports did not loot, burn or kill yet. Might they possibly do so, yes though looting seems not to be their thing like in the US.

The Mexican police and army seem to be trying to actually stop them in TJ and Ensenada. Not much seems to be happening in Mexicali and BCS yet!

In the US the police and national guard were ordered not to confront looters and arsonists even after some people were killed by the looters.

Looting is not a legitimate form of social protest nor is arson! Allowing it to occur is criminal conduct by government!

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On Tuesday the cartel burned down 25 oxxo stores.
I have lost count of how many murders have been committed by cartels. Probably several hundred thousand.
How many businesses in Mexico are being extorted by cartels? Many 10s of thousands.

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by BajaNomad]

from a friend trying to travel through mexicali

cooperdesign - 8-13-2022 at 12:21 PM

This a message below that my friends brother just sent to her.
—/———- (I have no proof, but sounds harrowing

I spoke to a friend of mine yesterday that was driving to Santa Rosalia a couple of days ago with 3 of his friends. He crossed the border in Mexicali driving a 4 wheel drive Van camper towing a boat. The transit police stopped him a few miles after he crossed before he got on the highway. They took all of their cash, all of their spare gas and 1/2 of their fishing equipment. He turned around and came home. He said it was particularly scary this time because he didn’t think they were real Federales.

sancho - 8-13-2022 at 01:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by cooperdesign

This a message below that my friends brother just sent to her.
—/———- (I have no proof, but sounds harrowing

That's ugly, rarely hear of such an expensive Police rip off.
Hope you don't get any blow back on this. Are a few here
who refuse to believe any post unless it comes from someone with
1000's of posts. Thanks for the info

BooJumMan - 8-13-2022 at 01:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by cooperdesign

This a message below that my friends brother just sent to her.
—/———- (I have no proof, but sounds harrowing

I spoke to a friend of mine yesterday that was driving to Santa Rosalia a couple of days ago with 3 of his friends. He crossed the border in Mexicali driving a 4 wheel drive Van camper towing a boat. The transit police stopped him a few miles after he crossed before he got on the highway. They took all of their cash, all of their spare gas and 1/2 of their fishing equipment. He turned around and came home. He said it was particularly scary this time because he didn’t think they were real Federales.

I have several friends born and raised in Mexicali and they tell me until they are blue in the face this stuff doesn't happen there (we all know it probably does). That is interesting your friend said they were Federales (or fake ones). Generally as of late you are more worried about the municipal police doing shake downs. The Federales have actually cleaned up their act a bit.

Lee - 8-13-2022 at 03:34 PM

Compare Boyle Heights to Five Points. OK. Compare Baja to the US? Nah.

How about US cops vs. MX cops? Don't consider all MX cops as corrupt. Don't think I'll be scammed NOB by cops but SOB? Oh yeah.

Some parts of Baja are safer than other parts. Other than rampant thievery, which I consider is epidemic in Baja, I don't consider MX cops my friend and if I get in trouble, they won't be any help. To me, that's dangerous in a way it's not NOB.

Unfortunately.

JDCanuck - 8-13-2022 at 05:42 PM

On our drive through Mexicali in late July, we were brushed at the rear from a white car that already had severe left front end damage. We felt no contact but heard them honk their horn. They chased us through Mexicali shaking their fists and trying to block our progress, in front and each time we changed lanes and we refused to pull over.
Reported our very slight 2 inch deep dent (white paint residue) behind our rear wheel to police and also called insurance adjuster when we noticed it in San Felipe. Were told by both police and adjuster this is the latest attempt to extort money from tourists with foreign licenses and is a growing issue in Mexicali. Repairs and vehicle rental being provided by insurer we got through Baja Bound, so is being resolved satisfactorily at this point.

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by BajaNomad]

Ateo - 8-13-2022 at 10:22 PM

My son is in the border line right now.....he said there wasn't any craziness that he saw the last couple days.........He was in Rosarito area.

There's my professional reporting, live from Oceanside sitting on my ass.

SFandH - 8-14-2022 at 06:09 AM

Judging by the northern Baja news source I read, last night was quiet.

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by SFandH]

Don Pisto - 8-14-2022 at 08:18 AM

it was a quiet night, looks like the tally is 24 assorted vehicles torched 8 arsonists captured and hauled off to mexico city.
Baja Baja Beach Fest going on without a hitch, hotels, bars and restaurants packed and everyone having a blast! :coolup:

RFClark - 8-14-2022 at 08:54 AM

The power was out in parts of Todos Santos for about an hour last night and there was a overturned 18 wheeler blocking part of the highway south of Todos Santos mid day.

Probably the work of The Cartel rather than CFE and a bad driver!

Meanwhile yesterday more than 30 people were shot and killed in the US! As is often the case Chicago led the list.

gnukid - 8-14-2022 at 09:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto

it was a quiet night, looks like the tally is 24 assorted vehicles torched 8 arsonists captured and hauled off to mexico city.
Baja Baja Beach Fest going on without a hitch, hotels, bars and restaurants packed and everyone having a blast! :coolup:

Ghost Town in Tijuana after the New Generation Cartel imposed curfew las night

SFandH - 8-14-2022 at 09:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto

I read 17 people were arrested. I bet they're being thoroughly "interrogated".

No injuries, no murders because of the arson that I know of. TJ city leaders are encouraging people to get back to business as usual.

I wonder if the cartel got what they wanted, they're tough negotiators, aren't they?

gnukid - 8-14-2022 at 09:38 AM

Ghost Town in Tijuana after the New Generation Cartel imposed curfew las night

The Cartel imposed the curfew?!

What a crackup! What's your source on that?

You could read a variety of sources and find everything you need to know, if you search Tijuana curfew or Tijuana Cartel Violence.

Hundreds of Mexican National Guard troops sent to Tijuana over cartel-fueled violence
https://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-mexican-national-guard-troop...

"We’re the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, we don’t want to hurt good people but it’s best they don’t go outside, we’re going to attack anyone we see on the streets on these days," the group said in a warning translated from Spanish."

Hundreds of Mexican National Guard troops sent to Tijuana over cartel-fueled violence
https://www.foxnews.com/world/hundreds-mexican-national-guar...

"Be warned. As of Friday at 10 p.m. through Sunday at 3 a.m. we’re going to create mass chaos so the [expletive] government frees our people. We’re the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, we don’t want to hurt good people but it’s best they don’t go outside, we’re going to attack anyone we see on the streets on these days," the group said in a warning translated from Spanish."

willardguy - 8-14-2022 at 09:39 AM

Ghost Town in Tijuana after the New Generation Cartel imposed curfew las night

The Cartel imposed the curfew?!

What a crackup! What's your source on that?

glad you find this hilarious, these guy are no joke...

Meanwhile, messages began circulating on social media, purportedly from the Cártel Jalisco Nueva Generación, declaring that it was implementing a curfew in Tijuana. The posts told residents that they should go home or risk being attacked. The U.S. Consul General in Tijuana advised Americans to seek shelter and to avoid traveling to the city.

bajatrailrider - 8-14-2022 at 09:42 AM

There was two killings . Feds between TJ and Ensenada got the bad guys . Shoot out bad guys lost since Saturday back to normal as reported to me.

willardguy - 8-14-2022 at 09:44 AM

Meanwhile yesterday more than 30 people were shot and killed in the US! As is often the case Chicago led the list.

apparently this 'effin jackazz just can't help himself

SFandH - 8-14-2022 at 09:46 AM

Ghost Town in Tijuana after the New Generation Cartel imposed curfew las night

The Cartel imposed the curfew?!

What a crackup! What's your source on that?

If the cartel members actually wrote this warning, the curfew certainly wasn't enforced by authorities.

Cartel folks aren't known to be concerned about the welfare of others.

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by SFandH]

willardguy - 8-14-2022 at 09:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

Ghost Town in Tijuana after the New Generation Cartel imposed curfew las night

The Cartel imposed the curfew?!

What a crackup! What's your source on that?

it wasn't about welfare it was a warning and taken very seriously in tijuana especially with all resources amassed in rosarito

SFandH - 8-14-2022 at 10:13 AM

OK, it was an effective scare tactic.

I'm still skeptical of its authenticity.

Hook - 8-14-2022 at 10:21 AM

The power was out in parts of Todos Santos for about an hour last night and there was a overturned 18 wheeler blocking part of the highway south of Todos Santos mid day.

Probably the work of The Cartel rather than CFE and a bad driver!

Meanwhile yesterday more than 30 people were shot and killed in the US! As is often the case Chicago led the list.

And yet the murder rate in Mexico is WAAAAY higher than in the US.

Not counting all the people who just disappear or are kidnapped (and eventually show up in one of Mexico's famous mass graves) which amounts to over a thousand each year. That's the REPORTED disappearances, of course.

The top twenty countries in per capita murder rates is literally dominated by Latin American and Caribbean countries. You begin to understand why whole families are so desperate to escape their home country by crossing deserts, mountains and oceans, to get to the US.

BajaGringo - 8-14-2022 at 10:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

Ghost Town in Tijuana after the New Generation Cartel imposed curfew las night

The Cartel imposed the curfew?!

What a crackup! What's your source on that?

The fact of the matter is, the people of Tijuana - who over the last few decades have become accustomed to living with cartel threats including bodies hanging from overpasses and bags of heads left on their sidewalks - did take the cartel Nueva Generacion de Jalisco's curfew quite seriously with a significant percentage of people living there choosing to stay home and off the streets, not only at night but during the daytime hours as well with a lot of stores and businesses deciding to close as well. The stores in the neighborhood where Cristina's family lives in Tijuana were all closed save for a couple who sold through a back door to clients they knew.

Tijuana took this threat and curfew seriously and the local government did as well - despite their words to the contrary - as the display of combined local, state and federal police as well as over 3,000 additional troops called in for support demonstrated a response the level Tijuana has not seen since the brutal days of the Arellano Felix street shootouts twenty years ago.

One friend in Tijuana expressed it this way to me last night: "Tijuana wouldn't have respected a curfew order issued from the government the way this city has chosen to abide by the curfew order of CNGJ this weekend."

mtgoat666 - 8-14-2022 at 10:29 AM

Meanwhile yesterday more than 30 people were shot and killed in the US! As is often the case Chicago led the list.

Murder rate
Mexico 28 per 100,000
USA 7 per 100,000

Murder rate in Mexico is 4 times greater than in usa.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?location...

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by mtgoat666]

gnukid - 8-14-2022 at 10:34 AM

Here is an IG with current reporting and photos on Baja California
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChMyjn2Mrfe/

https://zetatijuana.com/

RFClark - 8-14-2022 at 10:44 AM

Others doing worse is no excuse for you doing badly. We could do better with leadership!

mtgoat666 - 8-14-2022 at 11:11 AM

Others doing worse is no excuse for you doing badly. We could do better with leadership!

Everyone knows the problem is usa is too many guns owned by people that should not own guns!

Solution is known, proof is seen in the many countries that imposed gun control and saw homicide rate drop.

marooons in GOP will never let gun control solve the usa homicide problem. You GOPers need to vote out your leaders owned by nra and gun nuts.

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by mtgoat666]

willardguy - 8-14-2022 at 11:20 AM

Others doing worse is no excuse for you doing badly. We could do better with leadership!

Everyone knows the problem is usa is too many guns owned by people that should not own guns!

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by mtgoat666]

true! I suppose you could say the same thing about mexico.

RFClark - 8-14-2022 at 11:37 AM

Goat,

In Mexico it’s very difficult to own a legal gun and yet there’s way more gun violence. Perhaps there’s a message there for Liberals in the US.

The message is, It’s useless to have laws that aren’t enforced. Criminals don’t obey the laws if they don’t fear consequences, that’s why they’re called criminals. The law-abiding people don’t need the laws in the 1st place! Lastly, both the leaders and the police need to be effective or civilization breaks down!

Mexico and Europe where guns are illegal and gun violence is rampant being the examples.

bajatrailrider - 8-14-2022 at 12:36 PM

Others doing worse is no excuse for you doing badly. We could do better with leadership!

Are you just plain stupid gun control in Mexico sure has worked . Are you so stupid you think any of the bad guys in your back yard . Will give up there guns if a law passed . :light:

freediverbrian - 8-14-2022 at 12:36 PM

Thanks to everyone that heeded the message to not cross the border I had the easiest crossing. Mexicali was a ghost town this morning at 7:30 0 minute wait at Mexicali east. Global entry. No sign of any trouble just eerily quiet.

bajatrailrider - 8-14-2022 at 12:55 PM

Its people like you in CA like to let bad guys out next day after crime . You voted for those idiots now live with it .

John Harper - 8-14-2022 at 02:55 PM

Goat,

Mexico and Europe where guns are illegal and gun violence is rampant being the examples.

Europe??? Are you sure???

Looks like guns and gun violence have flooded both continents of America:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-death...

Definitely looks like a feature of the Americas, not a bug. Maybe drugs/guns/money? And, who's the biggest customer?

John

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by John Harper]

RFClark - 8-14-2022 at 03:33 PM

John,

Bad governance with guns counts and the Ukraine is a part of Europe as is Germany!

gnukid - 8-14-2022 at 03:46 PM

The public history of US Gov colluding to run guns to Mexican Cartels, and throughout the Americas is well documented in the public record. Whether it's Oil North, or Eric Holder, US continues to fuel cartel violence.

While Eric Holder and Barack Obama were meeting with cartel in the Whitehouse extensively and running weapons in programs Gun Walking and Fast and Furious, Eric Holder was held in contempt of congress, as were others, like Oli North, they continue their antics to cause disruption and chaos of the Americas.

While the Presidents say, "well, I didn't know" and "Abrazos no Balazos."

The CIA Drug connection under Reagan
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/cia_drug_connection_un...

Eric Holder slammed for ‘Fast and Furious’ obstruction
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/7/eric-holder-...

Fast and Furious hearing rips Holder, DOJ for deception in gun-running scandal
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fast-and-furious-hearing-ri...

ATF gunwalking scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

Barack Obama ATF Scandal: 8 Facts About Fast and Furious You Might Not Know
https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/barack-obama-scandal-at...

Robert Creamer Visited Obama’s White House 340 Times
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/10/19/robert-creamer...

'Fast And Furious' Just Might Be President Obama's Watergate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-fu...

Reports: CIA Working with Mexican Drug Cartels
https://thenewamerican.com/reports-cia-working-with-mexican-...

CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_coca...

Allegations of CIA drug trafficking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traffi...

Creating a Crime: How the CIA Commandeered the DEA
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/11/creating-a-crime-how...

The CIA, Contras, Gangs, and Crack
https://ips-dc.org/the_cia_contras_gangs_and_crack/

Plane carrying 860 pounds of cocaine crashes on Mexico highway
https://nypost.com/2020/07/06/plane-carrying-860-pounds-of-c...

https://thenewamerican.com/cia-manages-drug-trade-mexican-of...
CIA “Manages” Drug Trade, Mexican Official Says

2007 Yucatan Gulfstream drug crash
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2007_Yucatan_Gulfstream_drug_cra...

Guns, Drugs, CIA at Mena, Arkansas: Judicial Watch Demands Answers
https://www.judicialwatch.org/guns-drugs-cia-at-mena-arkansa...

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by gnukid]

gnukid - 8-14-2022 at 04:23 PM

US policy continues to fuel cartel violence

C.I.A. Expanding Terror Battle Under Guise of Charter Flights
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/us/cia-expanding-terror-b...

Border Agents, Lured by the Other Side
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/us/27border.html

Obama's Bloodiest Scandal Reemerges as Mexico Demands an Apology for Operation Fast and Furious
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/05/11/mexico...

The CIA And The Drug Trade
https://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade/

Gunrunner: Did the Obama regime grant the Sinaloa drug cartel immunity and allow drugs to be walked into the United States?
https://americaswatchtower.com/2011/12/30/gunrunner-did-the-...

El Chapo’s Capture Puts ‘Operation Fast and Furious’ Back in the Headlines
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/fast-furious-obama-fi...

New Twist in the Hunter Biden Saga: A White House Meeting for Elite Chinese Group
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/new-twist-in-the-hunt...

‘Fast and Furious’ Linked to Immunity Deal Between U.S. and Sinaloa Cartel, Trafficking Defendant Alleges in Court Papers
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/fast-and-furious-linked-imm...

Obama admits shared responsibility for Mexican drug war
https://www.coha.org/obama-admits-shared-responsibility-for-...

[Edited on 8-14-2022 by gnukid]

gnukid - 8-14-2022 at 04:29 PM

Drug Cartel Corruption exists throughout the US Border enforcement-confronting the reality

Border Patrol agent arrested for alleged link to drug cartels, murder of Honduran man
https://www.foxnews.com/world/border-patrol-agent-arrested-f...

US Border Patrol Agent Arrested for Helping to Smuggle Cocaine through Checkpoint in Texas
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2021/07/us-border-patrol-agent...

Border Patrol agent, cartel-linked brother facing drug trial
https://apnews.com/article/6e87a2b7a1b6456bb89026ec24aa8c74

How Mexico Cartels Corrupt US Border Agents
https://insightcrime.org/news/analysis/mexico-cartels-us-bor...

Mexican cartels exploiting border chaos to smuggle fentanyl into US
https://nypost.com/2022/06/10/cartels-exploiting-border-chao...

George H. Walker Bush: The Bush Family and the Mexican Drug Cartel
https://prepareforchange.net/2020/01/02/george-h-walker-bush...

RFClark - 8-14-2022 at 07:57 PM

lencho,

If this Mexican President is honest he will be the first in my lifetime. Mexico is to blame for Mexico’s problems!

Lee - 8-14-2022 at 08:05 PM

Border agents are first line of defense from the bad boys in TJ.

Agents do a tough job everyday and deserve respect and support.

Howard - 8-15-2022 at 07:48 AM

Any first hand reports on the current travel southbound from the border through Ensenada?
Thanks

JDCanuck - 8-15-2022 at 08:01 AM

lencho,

If this Mexican President is honest he will be the first in my lifetime. Mexico is to blame for Mexico’s problems!

And yet the Peso continues to climb in value relative to both the USD and the CAD. Something is going right. Perhaps the recent handling of inflationary pressures by subsidizing the gasoline prices with additional revenues from oil excise taxes is the primary motivator of the improved trade balance?

Peso vs Dollar

PaulW - 8-15-2022 at 08:21 AM

Downward trend exists

US 41 - 8-15-2022 at 09:16 AM

From west to east: Tijuana, Mexicali, Nogales, Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, Reynosa, and Matamoros are places that I always do my very best to avoid. Big border cities are just notorious for corruption and drug activity.

Maybe it's because I was raised and have lived my entire life in rural Indiana, but I don't particularly feel all that safe in any big city whether it's in the US or Mexico (or even Canada). I prefer rural areas and small cities / towns. I drive a truck OTR and I always stay at rural truck stops, never urban ones. I've slept in my car in Mexico at a toll road rest area in Cuencame, Durango. I wouldn't do that anywhere in Indianapolis.

From west to east these are places I have used (in CAPS) or would use (not in caps) to cross into Mexico: TECATE, SONOYTA, Naco, Columbus (NM), OJINAGA, Acuna, Piedras Negras, COLOMBIA (TX 255), Roma, Los Indios.

I hate hearing about what's happening in Northwestern Baja. Just sucks for everyone, especially the people that live there. I stopped in Ensenada at the Mirador that overlooks the Pacific, but my goal the first day I crossed into Baja was to get south of Ensenada, to the real Baja. Never felt threatened at all, but that border area can be something else, especially at night.

mtgoat666 - 8-15-2022 at 09:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by US 41

...my goal the first day I crossed into Baja was to get south of Ensenada, to the real Baja.

the big cities are "real baja" as much as the rural areas.
people that live in rural baja rely on big cities to get education, do business, conduct trade.
many people that live in rural baja flock to ensenada and la paz for education, doing business, and getting all the goods and services that are not available in rural baja.
you cant begin to experience baja if you speed thru the cities in fear and just camp in the desert or beaches. the cities are the cultural, educational and business centers of baja.

willardguy - 8-15-2022 at 03:19 PM

fortunately there's an official solution...you can draw your own conclusions. peace love and fish tacos.

The mayor of Tijuana, Monserrat Caballero, asked businesses and stores to pay "their extortion money" to organized crime so that they are not attacked and citizens do not suffer the consequences.
In addition, the municipal president from the Morena Party asked organized crime to attack only businesses that "did not pay their extortion."

beware, evil fb site.
https://www.facebook.com/Moreliactiva/videos/448062353898286

[Edited on 8-15-2022 by willardguy]

SFandH - 8-15-2022 at 03:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

fortunately there's an official solution...you can draw your own conclusions. peace love and fish tacos.

The mayor of Tijuana, Monserrat Caballero, asked businesses and stores to pay "their extortion money" to organized crime so that they are not attacked and citizens do not suffer the consequences.
In addition, the municipal president from the Morena Party asked organized crime to attack only businesses that "did not pay their extortion."

Where did you get that info?

vagabundos

willardguy - 8-15-2022 at 03:34 PM

hey anyone else get the "warning" from vagabundos? I haven't been a member there for 30 years!

US 41 - 8-15-2022 at 04:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by US 41

...my goal the first day I crossed into Baja was to get south of Ensenada, to the real Baja.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I suppose it's just personal preference, but I just don't like hanging out in cities in general, no matter where I'm at (not just in Mexico). I do enjoy driving through cities on the freeway, seeing the skyline, and leaving. I'm a nature person. Baja to me is deserts, beaches, small towns, cacti, palm trees in an oasis, and mountains. Those are the reason's I visited Baja this year and likely will again someday.

mtgoat666 - 8-15-2022 at 04:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

Well, that is ridiculous. What party is she from?

Time to call in the usa military and UN for some housecleaning and nation building!

RFClark - 8-15-2022 at 06:02 PM

Goat if I wanted a big Spanish speaking city with corrupt and incompetent officials I could have stayed in LA! You’re right the big cities are real, as real as a heart attack!

BTW,

How is paying people in Mexico not to “break windows” any different than ordering the police to watch while stores were looted and burned in the US?

amigobaja - 8-15-2022 at 06:23 PM

My phone blew up all night friday from friends and neighbors worried about me crossing Saturday A.m. i wish every trip across was so easy. 8:30 am Tecate five cars in front of us at the gate.

mtgoat666 - 8-15-2022 at 08:00 PM

How is paying people in Mexico not to “break windows” any different than ordering the police to watch while stores were looted and burned in the US?

Clarkie,
Seems be a big difference between sicarios extorting monthly protection money from many thousands of businesses in mexico, and a race riot (one riot effecting a few city blocks in a limited number of cities). Dont be obtuse!

RFClark - 8-15-2022 at 09:36 PM

Goat,

The looting and burning went on for months! Politicians encouraged it!
Which is by far the worst part.

“‘No ‘tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church door, but ‘tis enough ‘twill serve!” applies to the rule of law too! All it takes is people loosing faith in process. Mexico would be an example of that

bajatrailrider - 8-17-2022 at 07:00 PM

This was printed US TRAVEL ALERT Planning a trip to United States ? Be careful. There is a mass shooting in California every 8 days! Churches,schools,farmers markets are all danger zones.Hospitals have been invaded by gunmen. People have been shot driving their cars moms walking their kids in a stroller. America has seen over 300 mass shootings since January 2022. Up in L.A as of this writing 7- 11 across the city are closing because shooters have been targeting them. 6 Starbucks have closed ,citing safety concens for employees! This cant be ? or is the world a scary place now.

mtgoat666 - 8-17-2022 at 07:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider

This was printed US TRAVEL ALERT Planning a trip to United States ? Be careful. There is a mass shooting in California every 8 days! Churches,schools,farmers markets are all danger zones.Hospitals have been invaded by gunmen. People have been shot driving their cars moms walking their kids in a stroller. America has seen over 300 mass shootings since January 2022. Up in L.A as of this writing 7- 11 across the city are closing because shooters have been targeting them. 6 Starbucks have closed ,citing safety concens for employees! This cant be ? or is the world a scary place now.

I am amused by all you gringo expats who defend Mexico by trashing the USA. No sure how what happens in usa justifies what happens in Mexico, or makes what happens in Mexico of lesser significance.
What is amusing is you defenders of Mexico trash the USA, but most all of you come back to USA for major medical, y’all keep your retirement funds in USA, y’all keep your usa citizenship, and you travel back to USA to make major purchases of goods.

With respect to crime, usa is safer. Ask the insurance actuaries. Look at the statistics.

In the USA we have police that mostly help the citizens and tourists.. In Mexico you have cops that mostly fleece the citizens and tourists

I like traveling in Mexico. But I am not naive to think it is safer.

[Edited on 8-18-2022 by mtgoat666]

Here’s my sunset how was your’s?

RFClark - 8-17-2022 at 07:49 PM

Goat,

Bad governance in Mexico does not excuse bad governance in the US! Mexico’s problems are Mexico’s. We both chose. That’s free will in action. I chose Mexico and you do what ever it is you do east of San Diego. If you feel that you’re getting your moneys-worth for the high taxes and fees you pay then we’re both happy.

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bajatrailrider - 8-17-2022 at 07:52 PM

Not thrashing USA silly one. Just saying USA no longer safe you can stay locked up in your basement . keep a blind eye to yes CA as I said the world is a dangerous place now. Its not getting better anyplace now, sad USA is turning into 3 world country. USA is still number one but a troubled one. Y'all keep your doors locked

bajatrailrider - 8-18-2022 at 01:23 PM