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TIP or what, for ferry, if car is not returning north?

David K - 8-18-2022 at 09:13 AM

I was helping a lady who is moving from Rosarito Beach area to Yucatan and does not intend to leave Yucatan.
She already has her temp. residence visa and has applied for permanent.
I was surprised that her car ownership was not questioned at that time. The bank still owns it, I believe. One person on Facebook told her that she can't use the ferry unless it is paid off and she has title! Any comments?

Q: Is there some other form or permit to get on the ferry at La Paz other than the TIP which takes a $400 deposit?
Does she just lose that deposit since she won't be driving back to the U.S. or ??

Many thanks!

El Jefe - 8-18-2022 at 09:48 AM

She might be better off to sell the car in California (I assume that is where it is plated) and buy a car in Mexico. Otherwise, she is in for continuing hassles.


David K - 8-18-2022 at 10:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by El Jefe  
She might be better off to sell the car in California (I assume that is where it is plated) and buy a car in Mexico. Otherwise, she is in for continuing hassles.



Thanks for responding, Tom!
Hassles for what? She is an old lady but very intelligent and wants as many answers as she can get. She leaves at the end of the month or very soon in September.
Do you any more sage advice I can pass along.
PS She is from the East Coast (I think), not California. The car is full of her house possessions, so that is how she is moving to Yucatan.

[Edited on 8-18-2022 by David K]

JZ - 8-18-2022 at 10:26 AM

I have gotten a TIP for my truck a dozen times. It is required to go to San Carlos in Sonora if you are taking toys with you (bikes, RZR, etc.). Also took the truck from Santa Rosalia to Guaymas once on the ferry.

You don't need title to get a TIP. Just current registration. Meaning the vehicle doesn't need to be paid off.

Yes the ferry will require a TIP. Also, you need one to drive on the mainland South of Guaymas.

Once in Baja she doesn't need the TIP. She can get it cancelled and get her deposit back at the border at a Banjercito office.

Now where to get the TIP? She can get the TIP online. They will FedEx it, probably only to a US address. So, she will need to get it to MX.


[Edited on 8-18-2022 by JZ]

karenintx - 8-18-2022 at 10:35 AM

Where in the Yucatan will she be living is the first question to answer.

If it is Quintana Roo, it is considered is "Free Zone of Mexico" just like Baja Norte & BCS. So she "should" be able to drive a "US plated" vehicle in the state of Quintana Roo without a "TIP".

The problem is getting to Quintana Roo! Going through other Mexican states to get there will require a "TIP" so that means putting a deposit down for the "TIP". The only way to get the "TIP" deposit back is to drive the vehicle back to the border...or at least that is my understanding. The "TIP" expiration date will be the same date her Temp Resident expires. If/when she gets her R/P, will that will throw a big monkey wrench into this equation.

If she is not going to be in the state of Quintana Roo she will have a problem driving a US plated vehicle since R/Ps can not drive a car with a "TIP".

Read this article under "Mexico Free Zone Perimeters". And yes, a TIP is required for the La Paz ferry. Years ago when we took the ferry from Los Mochis to La Paz, we were told we would have to drive our SUV back to the border to have the TIP removed and our name removed from the computer data base. At that time (2008) no deposit was required so we still have the TIP.

https://www.mexpro.com/blog/mexico-free-border-zone/

JZ - 8-18-2022 at 10:54 AM

I need to read posts more closely. I thought she was moving from Yutacan to Rosarito Beach.


karenintx - 8-18-2022 at 11:31 AM

David,

It is also my understanding that if a TIP is not turned-in before it expires, the person that is named on the TIP is "flagged" in the data base and will not be able to bring a second vehicle into Mexico via the TIP system.

This happened to some friend of ours...the first expired TIP was in his name. He tried to get a second TIP so they could bring a second vehicle, which was also titled in his name, to BCS via Los Mochis ferry but was denied at Nogales, Mexico. They had to turn around, drive back into the US then over to Baja Norte and down to BCS.

Just trying to think outside the box on this subject...Good Luck.

I realize your friend plans to stay in the Yucatan however I do not know what the consequences would be if she had her name in the data base for an expired TIP while on the mainland of Mexico.

David K - 8-18-2022 at 12:00 PM

Wonderful data, Karenintx... I will copy and email her your two replies.

JZ, a little dyslexia? No worries... thanks for a response. Karen understood with great info..

I do believe it is Quintana Roo, yes... near Belize. She is moving there for the long term and the car is staying there.

Hook - 8-19-2022 at 09:37 AM

IF she achieves permanent residency status before she goes, she will NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET A TIP (THE BONDED, 200-400.00 TYPE) ON A FOREIGN PLATED VEHICLE.

At least that has been the case for quite some time. As always in Mexico, enforcement can vary.

And while Quintana Roo may be in the "free zone" with respect to vehicles, the only way to get it there without having a TIP is probably to have it shipped there.

I am of the opinion that she should sell the vehicle in the States and buy a Mexican plated vehicle down there. Just way easier, especially if she is going the permanente route. Buy a returned, leased vehicle from a dealer down there, which has a decent chance of having been maintained. A Rav 4 or a Mazda CX-3 or 5 would be good choices.

[Edited on 8-20-2022 by Hook]

David K - 8-19-2022 at 10:00 AM

Thank you, guys! I will send her both of your responses.