BajaNomad - Long Beach man, 29, dies unexpectedly on weekend trip with friends in Rosarito

We have told our kids over and over you can't do street drugs.

Most all illegal drugs are street drugs. Even if you get your drugs from an upper middle class kid, the source of drugs is usually some crime organization 3 hands removed. The only exception is people getting their drugs from stolen or fraudulently obtained pharmaceuticals.

Short stuff: You would be a better parent to tell your kids to not do drugs, and if they must do drugs, then stick to alcohol and home-grown organic pot.

Pot is easy to grow, and legal to grow, all you tokers should grow your own…

JDCanuck - 9-24-2022 at 02:45 PM

Pretty common story up here is people who were led into addiction to opiates through prescriptions from their doctors after major physical trauma.
Over prescriptions of opiates is still being compensated by major lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies that pushed them out in past decades claiming there were no long term dangers.

JDCanuck - 9-24-2022 at 02:57 PM

But this story if accurate is definitely murder. This man did not choose the drug that killed him, someone else chose it for him. The really surprising part is no one tried to help

John Harper - 9-24-2022 at 04:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Yep, it's a problem.

What exactly would you do to prevent its coming in?

Simple, go back to what worked.

What exactly "worked" in the past?

Most people seem to agree that the "war on drugs" as we have historically approached it, has been an expensive and colossal failure. What worked?

Coke was ~$100 a gram in 1975, it's ~$80 today ($15 in 1975!!!). That tells me the supply has not been affected, in fact, increased despite the DEA getting hundreds of billions over the years.

John

[Edited on 9-24-2022 by John Harper]

SFandH - 9-24-2022 at 04:53 PM

Remember the drug quaalude? It was a very popular drug that is no longer available. The way it was eliminated was to get control of the precursor chemicals. That is now happening with fentanyl.

https://www.unodc.org/LSS/Announcement/Details/b152bda5-5d71...

JDCanuck - 9-24-2022 at 05:50 PM

Lencho: Quote: "They were standing at the bar and they were having conversation with these young ladies and the people at the bar. And he took a sip out of a drink and just collapsed," his mother said.

Thomas said no one was trying to help her son.

"They moved them out of the way, like I said earlier," she said. "Drag him outside and threw him in the alley."

Thomas explained the family had to do their own investigation to find Colburt's body. When it was time to bring him home, Thomas said the morgue charged the family extra fees.

His death is being investigated as a homicide.

True...may not be a Homicide...just being investigated as such. I am mainly shocked they threw his body outside without attempts to revive him. What do you call that where you come from?

John Harper - 9-24-2022 at 05:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

I am mainly shocked they threw his body outside without attempts to revive him. What do you call that where you come from?

Unsubstantiated as yet? Like the allegation of homicide?

I think more facts are needed in this case. Where's Inspector Gadget?

John

John Harper - 9-24-2022 at 05:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Yep, it's a problem.

What exactly would you do to prevent its coming in?

Simple, go back to what worked.

John

[Edited on 9-24-2022 by John Harper]

I was responding and quoted Lencho. Regarding the 'coming in' across the border.

Good for you. So, what worked in the past?

John

JDCanuck - 9-24-2022 at 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

I am mainly shocked they threw his body outside without attempts to revive him. What do you call that where you come from?

Unsubstantiated as yet? Like the allegation of homicide?

I think more facts are needed in this case. Where's Inspector Gadget?

John

Which is why there is a link to a GoFundMe page for additional info so the family can pay for the investigation I would guess.

JDCanuck - 9-24-2022 at 06:29 PM

4 weeks ago:
https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/4-3-million-in-fentanyl-seized...
5 days ago:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-cov...
10 months ago:
https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/fentanyl-seizures-at-border-do...

[Edited on 9-25-2022 by JDCanuck]

JDCanuck - 9-24-2022 at 08:09 PM

Fentanyl: Despite the rapidly expanding amounts actually being stopped at borders according to those posts I put up earlier, the amount getting in has been growing rapidly as has the death rates. For our grandkids safety we have to find an answer. This one is being mixed with other recently legalized drugs at present without the users' knowledge and there is now a movement to legalize Cocaine as well. Very small amounts can be lethal and we can't continue to ignore it.

mtgoat666 - 9-24-2022 at 08:27 PM

I guess if you you only watch the "state controlled media" you wouldn't know?
*The wall was well under construction and greatly restricted illegal crossings or diverted them to where the wall wasn't yet built.
*Border Patrol officers were doing their job instead of processing the illegal crossers, what few that they could catch or who surrendered for the free stuff and transportation to the interior.
*Before 2021, we did not invite everyone to come here and ignore all the processes that every other immigrant had to go through before.
*There was a wait in Mexico program.

Now, with the free flow of everyone from everywhere, all sorts of dangerous drugs and people are coming across. Nobody had to get tested for Covid, either.
Drug traffickers and human smugglers have a friend in the White House now. Fentanyl poisoning is killing hundreds daily. Shame shame shame.

David,
What does any of your partisan diatribe have to do with the guy who died partying in Papas and Beer in Rosarito? Huh? :?:

P.s. can you tell me which channel is state-controlled, I think I might like to watch it and see what is up.

[Edited on 9-25-2022 by mtgoat666]

JZ - 9-24-2022 at 10:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

It is pouring over the wide open border into the US.

Yep, it's a problem.

If it's possible to avoid going political on this, (please don't), what exactly would you do to prevent its coming in?

Lock the border down to only legal migration as much as possible.

Fund and accelerate the processing of legal migration.

monoloco - 9-24-2022 at 10:27 PM

I don't know what good a border wall does when the majority of drugs come across in tractor trailers, automobiles, ships, planes, or tunnels.

JZ - 9-24-2022 at 10:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by monoloco

I don't know what good a border wall does when the majority of drugs come across in tractor trailers, automobiles, ships, planes, or tunnels.

More resources can be dedicated to the ports of entry once the border is relatively secure.

mtgoat666 - 9-25-2022 at 07:00 AM

Drug smuggling and immigration are unrelated. Only idiots and bigots that hate immigrants try to link the 2 issues.

SFandH - 9-25-2022 at 07:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by monoloco

I don't know what good a border wall does when the majority of drugs come across in tractor trailers, automobiles, ships, planes, or tunnels.

That's right. IMHO, it's almost impossible to stop the smuggling of high-value, low-volume items like meth, fentanyl, and heroin. One tactic the cartel uses is to take a large amount, say 10 pounds of meth, break it up into 1-pound packages, and use 10 cars to get it through the border, knowing that the majority will make it.

[Edited on 9-25-2022 by SFandH]

JDCanuck - 9-25-2022 at 08:34 AM

We could try what Netherlands did and decriminalize posession of all drugs, register users and supply them with the controlled drugs while enrolling them in treatment programs. Altho growth of deaths there doesn't seem to be much lower at present.
If we were seeing this many soldier deaths each year in a war we'd be rioting. And this is no longer a street problem, as over 3/4 of the deaths occur in residences. Soon we will all know a family that has lost a child to this scourge.
I will applaud the efforts of the CBP as they try to do their bit with the resources and limitations they are supplied with.

elgatoloco - 9-25-2022 at 09:02 AM

Sad that the young man died. Hope his family can find peace someday.

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elgatoloco - 9-25-2022 at 09:21 AM

Lets hope that somehow the facts come out via the state run media or even the media that used to run the state

https://tinyurl.com/5d5c2veu

bajatrailrider - 9-25-2022 at 10:17 AM

As norm nomads have no clue what happen to this young man. So have a great day Im riding my bike on the beach. Take your time writing away about nothing .

DouglasP - 9-27-2022 at 06:56 AM

Covid "Vax" = Unexpected Death.
End of mystery.

John Harper - 9-27-2022 at 07:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by monoloco

I don't know what good a border wall does when the majority of drugs come across in tractor trailers, automobiles, ships, planes, or tunnels.

More resources can be dedicated to the ports of entry once the border is relatively secure.

Who's going to pay for this secure border? Mexico? Brazil? Venezuela? US taxpayers?

How much are we already spending? How much more do we need?

Raise taxes? Cut taxes? Borrow money? Think about it, and it will happen
like declassifying documents?

Ideas without a plan are useless.

John

David K - 9-27-2022 at 07:49 AM

It was a lot more secure before 2021... and if the wall was allowed to finish, the border patrol could more easily manage the limited illegal crossings. The cost of not having a secure border is a hundred times greater... a thousand times, perhaps.

John Harper - 9-27-2022 at 08:23 AM

It was a lot more secure before 2021... and if the wall was allowed to finish, the border patrol could more easily manage the limited illegal crossings. The cost of not having a secure border is a hundred times greater... a thousand times, perhaps.

Define "a lot more secure" please.

Border crossings are up, but just above 1986 and 2000 levels. Who was in the Oval Office during those years? Have you asked yourself why so many people are crossing? Why in 1986 and 2004?

https://www.wola.org/analysis/us-government-2018-border-data...

Government spending on enforcement has gone up every year since 2004.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost...

Hard to make the case that it's one man's responsibility. The rest of your argument is just unsupportable hyperbole.

John

surabi - 9-27-2022 at 01:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP

Covid "Vax" = Unexpected Death.
End of mystery.

Idjit. Do you have inside knowledge that this man had just gotten a vaccination, or do you just jump on any thread to randomly post your misinformation?

JZ - 9-27-2022 at 02:23 PM

Take the $500B they have planned to give white people to repay student loans (e.g. Biden Buying Votes Act of 2022) and put it towards a much better use.

Then start a legit and organized legal immigration program.

[Edited on 9-28-2022 by JZ]

RFClark - 9-27-2022 at 04:28 PM

Goat,

CNN admitted that they had opinion 24/7 not news. That’s why they fired so many of the old regimes people and moved others to where no one watches them.

DouglasP - 9-28-2022 at 04:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi

Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP

Covid "Vax" = Unexpected Death.
End of mystery.

Idjit. Do you have inside knowledge that this man had just gotten a vaccination, or do you just jump on any thread to randomly post your misinformation?

Kiss it.
So you are saying the jab is dangerous.

[Edited on 9-28-2022 by DouglasP]

John Harper - 9-28-2022 at 05:54 AM

I have a better idea.

If businesses that got "loan forgiveness" from the PPP program paid back that money, it would be a lot more than $500B.

10.2 million businesses got loans forgiven under the PPP. Out of 11 million loans, more than 90% forgiven. Corporate welfare at it's best.

10 million x $72,500 (average loan) = $725B

https://www.pandemicoversight.gov/data-interactive-tools/dat...

Know any of those businesses?

And, we've all been waiting for Congress to pass immigration reform since at least the early 1990's, through all administrations up until today. What's the magic trick needed to get that to happen?

You can do better.

John

[Edited on 9-28-2022 by John Harper]

JZ - 9-28-2022 at 07:46 AM