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New Porcayo paper on native resistance to the missions

Lance S. - 10-13-2022 at 06:47 PM

Edit: changed link

https://www.academia.edu/88358642/Yuman_Rebels_of_Antigua_Ca...

[Edited on 10-16-2022 by Lance S.]

Hook - 10-13-2022 at 07:02 PM

When I was in Mexico City last year, touring the sites/museums of the various indigenous tribes of Mexico, I was struck by how barbarous they were to other tribes they subjugated; slavery, sacrifices, genocide, torture, etc.

It seemed like the only thing that differentiated the conquistadors from them was their ultimate "success" in subjugation through superior technologies.

And if you accept that we all emigrated from Africa at some point, it's not surprising, really.

Burns said it best.....Man's inhumanity to man, makes countless thousands mourn. Doesn't seem to matter when or where they came from.

mtgoat666 - 10-13-2022 at 09:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
When I was in Mexico City last year, touring the sites/museums of the various indigenous tribes of Mexico, I was struck by how barbarous they were to other tribes they subjugated; slavery, sacrifices, genocide, torture, etc.

It seemed like the only thing that differentiated the conquistadors from them was their ultimate "success" in subjugation through superior technologies.

And if you accept that we all emigrated from Africa at some point, it's not surprising, really.

Burns said it best.....Man's inhumanity to man, makes countless thousands mourn. Doesn't seem to matter when or where they came from.


Modern warfare of the 20th and 21st century has out done anything in our savage past. Look at Hitler’s gas chambers, USA’s nuclear bombing of Japan, and remote modern weaponry where 1st world cruise missiles, bombers and drones rain death down on 3rd world peasants.

TMW - 10-14-2022 at 08:57 AM

Don't forget Samson killed 1000 Philistines with the jawbone of a donkey, not bad for one man.

BajaBlanca - 10-15-2022 at 07:58 AM

We are watching a netflix series on the history of Turkiye and OMGosh, the brutality is awful and it was over centuries and centuries.

caj13 - 10-16-2022 at 06:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Goat, don't forget your buddies Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. All three made socialism and mass-murder synonymous.[/rquote]


David, "socialism" is a bit more Nuanced than you seem to think, please educate yourself on the various "systems" claiming the socialist label. Are you talking about Market or Non market socialism? Democratic socialism or Authoritarian socialism? or NeoLiberalism?

On top of that , often the word was conscripted by fascist and communist regimes to try and justify their cause.

So I would appreciate it if you could do a bit of historical research, and instead of spouting right wing mantras you pick up from who knows where, demonstrate that you are indeed knowledgeable on the subject.

pacificobob - 10-16-2022 at 08:00 AM

I'll bet he opt out of social security and Medicare. Especially after that SS cola raise.
Filthy socialists.

JZ - 10-16-2022 at 08:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
When I was in Mexico City last year, touring the sites/museums of the various indigenous tribes of Mexico, I was struck by how barbarous they were to other tribes they subjugated; slavery, sacrifices, genocide, torture, etc.

It seemed like the only thing that differentiated the conquistadors from them was their ultimate "success" in subjugation through superior technologies.

And if you accept that we all emigrated from Africa at some point, it's not surprising, really.

Burns said it best.....Man's inhumanity to man, makes countless thousands mourn. Doesn't seem to matter when or where they came from.


All societies since the beginning of time brutalized and enslaved others. It was the Western societies who ended it.

The modern-day progressives somehow do not realize this.


[Edited on 10-16-2022 by JZ]

mtgoat666 - 10-16-2022 at 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Goat, don't forget your buddies Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. All three made socialism and mass-murder synonymous.[/rquote]


David, "socialism" is a bit more Nuanced than you seem to think, please educate yourself on the various "systems" claiming the socialist label.


You can’t teach an old dog new tricks. DK is living the capitalist dream, he will never be able to see another viewpoint.

JZ - 10-16-2022 at 09:11 AM

Remember when Bernie Sanders told us all that the new American dream would be found in socialist places like Venezuela?

LancairDriver - 10-16-2022 at 10:41 AM



The favorite form of US warfare that keeps the mic in profitable business raining death and destruction on relatively helpless third world country’s defenseless against modern weapons and forcing tens of thousands of refugees to the western European country’s to deal with.Then it’s time to move on to other similar targets on a different continent.Follow the money in understanding the never ending wars now building up to the big one.

[Edited on 10-16-2022 by LancairDriver]

elgatoloco - 10-16-2022 at 12:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Remember when Bernie Sanders told us all that the new American dream would be found in socialist places like Venezuela?


He never told anyone that but its a good soundbite so you're happy....

Context

the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed

elgatoloco - 10-16-2022 at 12:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  


The favorite form of US warfare that keeps the mic in profitable business raining death and destruction on relatively helpless third world country’s defenseless against modern weapons and forcing tens of thousands of refugees to the western European country’s to deal with.Then it’s time to move on to other similar targets on a different continent.Follow the money in understanding the never ending wars now building up to the big one.

[Edited on 10-16-2022 by LancairDriver]


re: follow the money

president cheney and vice president rumsfeld did good by halliburton for sure

elgatoloco - 10-16-2022 at 12:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lance S.  
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1947461X.2022.2...


Interesting.

Thanks for the link to that article and website. I enjoy archaeology. I'm going to sign up and do a deeper dive.