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Buen, Bueno, Buena

bachrachj - 12-10-2022 at 06:44 AM

Does anyone have a simple rule (Ha! It's Spanish!) to know when to use them? The masculine, feminin are pretty straight forward, pero por ejemplo "beun dia, buen provecho" son diferentes. Gracias.

pacificobob - 12-10-2022 at 07:51 AM

Spanish is widely considered to be an easy language to learn.
With the plethora of free language learning tool available on line, not learning it is a choice. I am mystified at the number of gringos who are content to stick with 25 poorly pronounced words . Just my 2 centavos.

[Edited on 12-10-2022 by pacificobob]

BajaBlanca - 12-10-2022 at 09:13 AM

noun = person, place, thing

Good and easy explanation Lencho!

Don Jorge - 12-10-2022 at 09:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bachrachj  
Does anyone have a simple rule (Ha! It's Spanish!) to know when to use them? The masculine, feminin are pretty straight forward, pero por ejemplo "beun dia, buen provecho" son diferentes. Gracias.


Perhaps some confusion assuming dia ending in a is feminine. Of course it is masculine, thus buen dia.

Those tricky nouns which are the exception to the a ending is female o ending is male have thrown me for a loop many times. My Spanish speaking friends and family pounce on my screwing that up every time.

Lots of lists of these exception to this rule on the web.

Here is one such exception: el idiota: male idiot (but la idiota, female idiot)

AKgringo - 12-10-2022 at 10:36 AM

I would love to add to my Spanish conversational skills,, but my hard drive seems to be maxed out, and my random-access memory is becoming more random all the time!

Most of the people I speak with in Baja are too polite to correct my mangled dialog, so I just blunder onward. I really would like to be corrected, so I let that be known to folks I talk to on a semi-regular basis.

AKgringo - 12-10-2022 at 11:13 AM

Even I am smart enough to know that he will get nothing out of that cord. He needs to turn it upside down and shake it! :light:

David K - 12-10-2022 at 11:14 AM

English, one of the most difficult languages, is filled with inconsistencies and relies on memorization rather than rules. Even the few rules aren't always correct (is it always 'i' before 'e' except after 'c'?). The silent e and the various vowel sounds, must drive English learners crazy! We also have words that are pronounced differently based on how it is used, like read: "Did you read that?" vs. "Have you read that?"

AKgringo - 12-10-2022 at 11:52 AM

For word confusion, you can add two to the list too.

pacificobob - 12-10-2022 at 03:12 PM

I believe french has 16 vowel sounds.

Algo mas?

AKgringo - 12-10-2022 at 03:29 PM

That could mean....anything more (a question), something more (a statement), or a little bit more (a question or statement).

Corrections are encouraged. I already told you I am not very good at this.

[Edited on 12-10-2022 by AKgringo]

pacificobob - 12-10-2022 at 05:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
noun = person, place, thing
Wow; explaining "noun" to an American adult, really says something about the education system. :lol:

Edit:
Seriously, how many folks here managed to get through high school without learning about English grammar?

I've never questioned that-- seems like part of basic education-- but by the time I'd graduated I'd taken several years of foreign language classes, which pretty much forces one to think about her native language grammar.

[Edited on 12-10-2022 by lencho]


Direct object pronouns and indirect object pronouns in the same sentence separates the men from the boys when it comes to linguistics.

Cliffy - 12-10-2022 at 06:01 PM

My son has a BA in English and he lost me 30 years ago!
Direct and indirect object pronouns? HUH? I'll ask him :-)

LancairDriver - 12-10-2022 at 06:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
noun = person, place, thing
Wow; explaining "noun" to an American adult, really says something about the education system. :lol:

Edit:
Seriously, how many folks here managed to get through high school without learning about English grammar?

I've never questioned that-- seems like part of basic education-- but by the time I'd graduated I'd taken several years of foreign language classes, which pretty much forces one to think about her native



language grammar.

[Edited on 12-10-2022 by lencho]


Did anyone ask for an explanation of what a noun is?

BajaBlanca - 12-10-2022 at 11:13 PM

David! English is one of the easiest languages to learn! Look online and you wont even find it listed among the first twenty.

Different sites list these, in varying order.

Chinese
Arabic
Japanese
Korean
Hindi
Russian
Vietnamese
TURKISH!!!!!!
Polish
Thai
Hebew
Icelandic
Navajo (West US)


Truly, no way in English remotely difficult.

BajaBlanca - 12-10-2022 at 11:17 PM

Regarding the NOUN definition: when I was in elementary school, animals were included in that definition. It is not so any more. As a teacher, I never assume that everyone understands what a noun is!

surfhat - 12-11-2022 at 10:13 AM

Dearest Blanca, we all know what assume can be divided into. Haha

You are a wise woman.

Happy Holidays to you and Les.

bajaric - 12-11-2022 at 10:40 AM

As a greeting, it is Buenos dias, or Buenas tardes / noches at least as far as I know and have heard a million times.

"Los Aztecas" is another exception - since it refers to a people even though the noun ends in A it is masculine.

English has become the universal language of the world among educated people, including pilots. I'm not a lencho - worthy linguist but I would surmise that this is due to the status of England as a seafaring island nation that established an empire where the sun never set. Perhaps the influence of many other languages upon the English language (Roman, Saxon, Celtic etc.) over the millennia made it relatively easy to learn.

David K - 12-11-2022 at 10:45 AM

The rules in Spanish do bend so they sound clearer. It is El Agua instead of La Agua. What are some other examples?