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Baja Bernie
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JR
I am somewhat aware of your sense of humor--this was addressed to all who posted Ha Ha stuff as well as those I termed 'weavers.' Really hope they
will come back with some more history theories.
I guess when you read my stuff you don't see 'my' low key sense of humor.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Pompano
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I found new evidence....or at least a new theory...
This shakes up my old beliefs somewhat.....Archaeologists say a site in South Carolina may rewrite the history of how the Americas were settled by
pushing back the date of human settlement thousands of years.
Of course everything is subject to interpretation and this is already igniting controversy among scientists.
An archaeologist from the U of SC announced radiocarbon tests that dated the first human settlement in North America to 50,000 years ago--at least
25,000 years before other known human sites on the continent. (Albert Goodyear, USC Institure of Achaeologhy and Anthropology.) If this is true, the
find represents a revelation for scientists studying how humans migrated to the Americas...and for us to speculate over! I told you anthropology was
fun!!
Most scientists thought humans first ventured into the New World across a land bridge from present-day Russia into Alaska about 13,000 years ago.
This new discovery suggests humans may have crossed the land bridge into the Americas much earlier--possibly during another ice age--and rapidly
colonized the two continents.
This from the opposing side: "It poses some real problems trying to explain how you have people arriving in Central Asia almost at the same time as
people in the Eastern United States," said Theodore Schurr, anthropology professor at the University of Pennsylvania and a curator at the school's
museum. "You almost have to hope for instantaneous expansion...We're talking about a very rapid movement of people around the globe." "If
carbon-dating is confirmed, then it really does have a significant impact on our previous understanding on New World colonization," he said.
Most scientists today refute the theory I remember being taught...about the general belief that North America was settled by hunters following large
game over the land bridge about 13,000 years ago. "That had been repeated so many times in textbooks and lectures it became part of the common lore,"
said Dennis Stanford, curator of acheology at eh Smithsonian Institution. "People forgot it was only an unproven hypothesis."
A scattering of sites from South America to Oklahoma have found evidence of a human presence before 13,000 years ago - or the first Clovis sites -
since the discovery of human artifacts in a cave near Clovis, New Mexico, in 1936.
These discoveries are leading achaeologists to support alternative theories - such as settlement by sea - for the Americas.
Worldwide, ideas about human origins have rapidly changed with groundebreaking discoveries that humans ranged farther and earlier than once believed.
Fossils in Indonesia nearly 2 million years old suggest that protohumans left their African homeland hundreds of thousands of years earlier than first
theorized. Modern humans, or homo sapiens, most likely emerged between 60,000 and 80,000 years ago in Africa. They quickly fanned out to Australia
and Cental Asia about 50,000 years ago and arrived in Europe only about 40,000 years ago. Ancestral humans - hominids like australopithecines and
Neanderthals - have never been found in the New World.
Goodyear, the one who found the relics in South Carolina, plans to publish his work in a peer-reviewed scientific journal next year, which is the
standard method by which scientists announce their findings. Until research is peer-reviewed, experts in the field may not have an opportunity to
evaluate the scientist's methods, or weigh in on the validity of his conclusions. Archeologists will meet in October of 2005 for a conference in
Columbia, South Carolina, to discuss the earliest inhabitants of North America, including a visit to the excavation site.
Goodyear has been excavating the dig site along the Savannah River since the 1980's. He recovered manhy of the artifacts and tools last May. He dug
four meters (13 feet) deeper than the soil layer containing the earliest North American people and began uncovering a plethora of tools. Until
recently, many archeologists did not dig below where Clovis artifacts were expected to be found.
Scientists and volunteers at the dig site have unearthed hundreds of possible instruments, many appearing to be stone chisels and tools that could
have been used to skin hides, butcher meat, or carve antlers, wood, and ivory. The tools were fashioned from a substance called chert, a flint-like
stone found in the region.
Goodyear and his colleagues began their dig at the site in the early 1980's with the goal of finding out more about the Clovis people. Goodyear
thought it would also be a good place to look for earlier human settlers because of the resources along the Savannah River and the moderate climate.
What does this do to your timelines?? Adios Native American casino tax-relief?
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Baja Bernie
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Pomp
Wonderful post!
Your post ,"Until recently, many archeologists did not dig below where Clovis artifacts were expected to be found."
Sadly the learned persons who expounded all of the theory's that became fact for the unknowing have done exactly that in order to maintain their
research that was based upon their desire to support previously unproven ideas.
In doing this they have set back human understanding for humdreds of years and will continue to block and attack new evidence such as you mention.
They will circle the wagons and deny the truth until the media picks up their felacious arguments and drowns the 'true' voice in the wilderness.
Thanks for the information.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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eetdrt88
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my young mind...
is taking all this in all this historical information...and soon i will be passing it on to my children,so i'm assuming everything posted on this
thread is purely based on fact
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bajalera
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Sheesh! I didn't know anyone was taking notes.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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Baja Bernie
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Eetdrt 88
I think you are on the right track and you can convey the truth to your kids if it comes from POMP, Osprey, Baja Lera, or me---But if it comes from JR
I suggest that you wait until they can vote in the States or they can drink in Baja.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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jrbaja
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Very true EE
All of my info comes from the locals. And what the heck would they know about their own country compared to a bunch of gringo tourists?
Plus, I tend to embellish or completely make things up. Just like the u.s. history books! Which is why I also tend to take a grain of salt with
history or travel guides written by more gringo tourists.
Yall may enjoy my new book about those who write books about Baja
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