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Cincodemayo
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Do you people really think that ALL the $$ is forked over at once?
This is like beating a dead horse. I've certainly said enough as no one other than buyers will ever get it. Everyone's cup always HALF empty?
I'm done talking about LB. Try the stock market instead.
Don\'t get mad...
Get EVEN.
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Hook
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Where's the Baja love?
I won't comment on the relative merits/pitfalls of investing in the Loreto Bay project. That's an individual's call.
But I really feel that Poverty Bay's initial requests were done in an open, unbiased, and self-effacing manner and the conclusions that some reached
on his/her intentions were completely uncalled for. This type of reaction tends to limit exchanges of information on boards like this. What are we all
here for, if not for information?
Yeah, a board name like "Poverty Bay" could be construed as having a bias. I simply found it humorous, as his questions were to-the-point.
But it sure seems like some of the early investors are a testly lot when it comes to questions about their investment.
I cant imagine, though, that some of the current L.B. investors didn't ask THEMSELVES the same questions that P.B. did.........
Either answer the questions or don't, whatever you choose. But don't disparage the questioner's motive's or character when there is no way of knowing
about either.
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Worldtraveller
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Loreto Bay seems to be selling a lot of properties at ever increasing prices. Maybe this is related to a real estate bubble that seems to be taking
place north of the border. Then again, it seems like some financially successful folks may be buying something that is great value compared to what
can be bought on the California coast.
Cinco, did you buy for the potential investment return or for other reasons? What do you think is driving other buyers?
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PovertyBay
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Hook.
Your comments regarding the tone of some of the communications on this site are right on the money. At times, there seems to be very little tolerance
for the views of others, and the language is often derogatory. It gets tiresome, and certainly discourages newbies such as I from participating in
the dialogue.
By the way, nothing was implied by my moniker, Poverty Bay. In fact, there is such a place on Puget Sound in the beautiful state of Washington. Now
that I think about it, I believe I'll undertake to develop a resort property overlooking Poverty Bay, where Loretans can come to escape the summer
heat. If anyone is interested, just send me a few thousand dollars, completely refundable of course, and I'll talk to you about my concept. Trust
me -- I have, as yet, not a single dissatisfied buyer.
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Poverty Bay
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Worldtraveller
Loreto Bay seems to be selling a lot of properties at ever increasing prices. What do you think is driving other buyers? |
Money from the Gods and buttered up PR.
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Cincodemayo
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The Poverty Bay quadrangle lies near the center of the Puget Sound region?s intensively developing urban core. Less than 20 km north lies the city of
Seattle; downtown Tacoma lies just southwest of the quadrangle. The map area expresses much of the tremendous range of Quaternary environments and
deposits found throughout the central Puget Lowland. Much of the ground surface is mantled by a rolling surface of glacial till deposited during the
last occupation of the Puget Lowland by a great continental ice sheet about 14,000 years ago. A complex sequence of older unconsolidated sediments
extends far below sea level across most of the quadrangle; there are no bedrock exposures at all.
Don\'t get mad...
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Hook
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It's just the internet, in general
| Quote: | Originally posted by PovertyBay
Hook.
Your comments regarding the tone of some of the communications on this site are right on the money. At times, there seems to be very little tolerance
for the views of others, and the language is often derogatory. It gets tiresome, and certainly discourages newbies such as I from participating in
the dialogue.
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It's really not this board. It's a problem at most all discussion boards, especially when money is involved. To a certain degree, it's just human
nature. But it CAN limit discussion, unintentionally. That's why I brought it up.
Really, I understand the tendency to get defensive about LB. As a development, it has been treated like a shuttlec-ck on these boards. But it's still
no reason to personally disparage an individual (especially a newbie) who brings up questions about it.
I'm outta here, on this subject.
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capt. mike
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YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT ROCKY POINT PROPERTIES are going for, selling like hotcakes at $300 to 500 K....no problemo. and condos....smallish.
loreto bay has a good chance, people want it and can afford it.
to each their own...
cracks me up...
give me the trailer life...
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Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT ROCKY POINT PROPERTIES are going for, selling like hotcakes at $300 to 500 K....no problemo. and condos....smallish.
loreto bay has a good chance, people want it and can afford it.
to each their own...
cracks me up...
give me the trailer life... |
Me, too. Sing with me, now, Captain Mike......
" Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a trailer's life for me......."
I used to look down on WTT......now, I aspire to it.
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Sharksbaja
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Trailer life, hmmmmm......
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT ROCKY POINT PROPERTIES are going for, selling like hotcakes at $300 to 500 K....no problemo. and condos....smallish.
loreto bay has a good chance, people want it and can afford it.
to each their own...
cracks me up...
give me the trailer life... |
Me, too. Sing with me, now, Captain Mike......
" Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a trailer's life for me......."
I used to look down on WTW......now, I aspire to it. |
Our trailer at Two Harbors had a sea veiw of both sides of the island.....and buffalo! Great till the kids started growin'
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rogerj1
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Poverty:
This is not a good place to come looking for investment advice. Many of the people on this board have been in and around Baja for many years and
aren't that keen on newcomers flashing wallets. There's a few of us that are intent on learning more about buying property in Mexico. I've started up
a blog to talk about it. It's pretty new, but I've posted some links to different investments available out there. Take a look.
http://laptoptraveler.blogspot.com/
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Skeet/Loreto
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j1:
Have you Physicaly been to Loreto Bay Villages ?
If you have not you should go take a look, do some Hometown Investigation of the Area and its Water.
I think that Loreto Bay villages has a chance to really be a new and Beautifull Development. Reason: Because they have been able to take in so much
Money in such a short time.
There really seems to be only two Negatives:
Water
Dust
I would not buy.
I would go North where the amount of Dust is less and you can make arrangements for good Water.
Skeet/Loreto
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vandenberg
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Skeet,
Once the first phase of construction is finished, dust won't be an issue any longer, and as far as water is concerned, Loreto Bay and the north end of
town will be drawing from the same trough. If you're talking further north, what water arrangments are you refering to ?
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Skeet/Loreto
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Berg:
It is not the dust from the Development but the dust from the former Garabge Dumps all North of Salvuts and the Penthouse as well as the dust that
comes from Loreto itself on all of the unpaved steets out North.
The Water thing, as I understand it has already be given to the Developments up North even through it is being Hauled in my Trucks.
And of course you must know of Salvuts Power over that Area.
Before I started to build Rancho Sonrisa, all of the area from the Prep. School North was the closest Dump. Ihave pictures of moving the 3 0r 4 cars
from the Aea, and I did not count the numer that were moved the next few Years.
Also the Hill that lays between thew Beach and where Lucia and Garys House stand was a dump for old cars and such. Now to get another 100 yards or so
to the North is where all the Dogs which were Poisined and Died {From Strychine} were dumped. I personally counted 254 dogs when they had the "Big
Cleansing of Stray Dogs Program"".
Then if you go further out you have the Old Black Water Basin were the Black Water was Pumped for several Years.
Then a little further North you have the Arroyo that comes down from the Present Day Dump. You should have seen the Trash that came down in 1976 when
Hurricane Lisa came by.
There are other things to look into for those who would like to live in one of the most Beautifull spots in the world.
Skeet/Loreto
The above does not included the years and years of The fishermans Leavings that were brought out from Town when there were no longer allowed to Filet
Fish on the Beach in Loreto.
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Sharksbaja
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I wonder if the all-inclusive self-sustainng developments will incorporate these (authentic)amentities in future projects.
IMHO I think the development will bring unforeseen collateral problems but not particularily by their hand. Pandoras Box is open so social problems
will be guaranteed. Much like Cabo. I could be wrong, and it is early in the boom but the future growth factor will most likely be exponential.
Skeet, tell us more about the humane cleansing program for dogs. Have you ever witnessed a dog dying from strychnine poisoning? Not a pretty sight.
It also kills companion animals, as well as strays that suffer and die from the cruel poison set out in baits, which remain potent for years.
Improperly disposed of doses, and doses workers fail to pick up when they are left uneaten, cause slow, painful death to other animals. The clinical
signs of strychnine poisoning relate to its effects on the central nervous system.
"The first clinical signs include uneasiness, restlessness, anxiety, muscle twitching and stiffness of the neck. The animal is in severe pain and the
pupils are dilated. These signs can resemble tetanus, with an increase in spinal reflexes leading to tonic convulsions characterized by sudden
contractions of all striated muscles followed by complete relaxation. The animal becomes hypersensitive to external stimuli and the slightest noise or
touch can trigger convulsions"
Having experiencing the loss of my wonderful border collie as a child due to some sicko(doctor) baiting neighborhood dogs I possess a deep opposition
to this inhumane method of animal conntrol.
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tehag
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Loreto
They don't poison here in Loreto anymore. Sandy Harris' Lab Tar got nailed by a "leftover" dose, and she raised so much H they quit the program.
About 20 years ago I asked the cop who was driving a flatbed truck of dog carcasses to the dump how many they had killed, and he told me that in the
week-long push they were at about 2,200. It is an ongoing problem of some magnitude.
There are some volunteers doing spaying and neutering now, and they plan to open a clinic. Sometimes kids from Loreto Bay employee's families spend a
day trying to catch puppies there for sterilization. I saw a pack of a half dozen or so ferals today on the Loreto Bay property.
The goat herder at Nopol? shot a few dogs 3 days ago after one of his goats was offed by a local pack.
Strays are still a problem all over Mexico, but, poco a poco...
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Skeet/Loreto
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Samdy and Tar
I was with Sandy when she first brought Tar home. Looked after him on Several occasions'
"Hueso"
As the Tears flow, my Heart Pumps. it is difficult to see the Keyboard as I think about "Hueso".
She was brought to me at the Hotel Presidente at Nopollo on one of the Friday Night Buffets and Music. I was listening to the Music when I was
approached by 2 young women who Told me that they had found a Puppy on the Highway standing next to a Dead Momma dog. They reported that theyhad the
Puppy in their room, they were leaving for LA the next day and did notknow what to do with this Puppy.
I went to take a look an"Wow" here comes a tall,scrawny,Yellow Hound with the beautifull eyes!!. I could not resist, so took the Puppy Home. I was
then living on Jordon next to the Ice Plant and across from Jamie and Marie'
She was all Skin and bones, part Whippett and GreyHound and Mexican Yellow. I took her to the States, named her "Hueso" meaning to me "Bones". My wife
fell in love with her very fast.
I was driving a Cessna 172 at the time/ Virginia and I would Depart Los Banos with Huesco in the back seat{NoSeat Belt} she would Set up and look out
the Window onTake off and Landing, then lay down and sleep all the way to Loreto.
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The Loss of Hueso
Hueso became my friend, tall and Lanky, pleasing, kind and all those wonderfull things from "Mans Best Friend"
When in the states she would walk with me on the Canal Bank in Los Banos, taking time out to chase down and catch a good size Jack Rabbitt.-The only
dog I ever had that could do the Rabbit Catch.
On a beautifull clear morning in Loreto I started for my Three mile walk from Rancho Sonrisa to the Cathouse and Return.
Hueso was happy go lucky,bouncing and showing me the way when all of a sudden she flipped to the Ground and started Shaking, I grabbed her Head and
watched her eyes a she Died, those beautifull eyes looking into mine/
I went back Home got my truck and returned her to Rancho Sonrisa, buried her out on the Front of the Lot, marking the Grave with a large Whale bone I
had found on one of the Islands. The large Whale bone I took with me when I left Loreto. Now it rests within my view so that I am reminded of Best dog
I ever had the Privilege of Knowing.
God Bless her for bringing her heart to me. I will cherish her for ever.
The Reason for Hueso's Death. Next
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Skeet/Loreto
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For the past several years the Dog Population had increase and there were many "Street dogs" starting to roam and bother the People of Loreto. At one
time a pack of Dogs attacked some Children on the Beach.
The Local doctors and Delagado decided to Hire a person who was a know Dog Hater to clear the Streets of Loreto.
the Radio warned all peop[le to keep their Dogs inside their property for one week as Poisin was going to be put in the Streets from Midnite til 4 in
theMorning.
Smal bags of Hotdogs with Stictnine were thrown into the areas where Dogs were observed in the streets.
A Road runs from town to the Cathouse where they dropped th small sacks to get rid of the Cathouse dogs, that was where Hueso had tasted the Hot Dogs.
Over 250 Dogs were later hauled from town to the dunp out North.
I shall never Forget, Niether did Sandy or her Friend from Idaho who lost to Bird dogs.
God Bless them All.
Adios Hueso
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Sharksbaja
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Dog heaven
Oh Skeet I am so sorry, I had no idea you suffered with the loss of your beloved companion. I empathize with you. May their innocent souls live on
through our memories. I will never forget my friend Binx either. It's hard to imagine that many dogs dead all at once.
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