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I'll play. Bonus question: "If 2 dorado count as 1 billfish, what does 1 dorado count for?"
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Cypress
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One dorado counts for a sad fishing trip.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by synch
Let's see if I've got this right;
in Mexico the locals think nothing of fishing licenses but when gringos take dead shells they must pay $1400.00?
| Quote: | Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
Certainly the purpose of my post was not to seek sympathy.
I am pleased to report that the "poachers", after about a month, yesterday resloved their fine with PROFEPA. Yes they did have shells that were empty
and a lobster but no spearguns which are a no no. What complicated this case was that they did follow the agents as directed. The fine paid was
$1,400 dollars for each boat which have now been released.
This has been a costly but valuable lesson for all to learn from. The "poachers' realize/admit their illeagal activity that will ot be repeated and
are Ok with the fine. It could have been worse......
One more thing a couple of years ago we ran into several PORFEPA agents about 25 miles up Matomi wash. They were friendly but asked why were there and
if we were an off road touring business....
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the law is the same for Mexicans and Gringos. there are more Mexicans fined than foreigners.
why is it that a lot of people think there are 2 sets of laws in Mexico? it just isn't so. some times enforcement may differ but the rules are the
same.
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vandenberg
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Enforcement may differ but rules are the same
Bruce,
You should be on stage.
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Cypress
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Two sets of laws? Regarding shellfish? As I understand it, a person that has Mexican citizenship can harvest shrimp, crabs, clams, lobsters, take sea
shells, etc. but it's illegal for a non-citizen to do so.
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Minnow
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One must remember, In Mexico the rule of law is but a vague point of refrence. It's enforcement is subjective to the official who it concerns. That
is the flaw of Napoleonic code.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Two sets of laws? Regarding shellfish? As I understand it, a person that has Mexican citizenship can harvest shrimp, crabs, clams, lobsters, take sea
shells, etc. but it's illegal for a non-citizen to do so.
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no they cant only if they get a commercial permit for each species and only during the season. if they don't have it they get the same punishment as
you or I.
I know several Mexicans that have had there boats an equipment taken.
Bruce R Leech
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Cypress
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A commercial permit to harvest a bucket of clams? A crab or two? Does that also apply to catching live bait with a trap or cast net? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Enforcement may differ but rules are the same
Bruce,
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No, he should be in the US Congress.
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
A commercial permit to harvest a bucket of clams? A crab or two? Does that also apply to catching live bait with a trap or cast net? |
Recently announced in Loreto: Panga captains may not use cast nets to gather "sardinias" as bait for their clients. They must instead use a member of
the bait co-op to catch the bait for them.
Now I don't know what the law is with cast nets except that only Mexicans can use them. But I've seen them giving gringos lessons down at the marina,
in company of the Port Captain.
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Cypress
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Bait co-op??
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by synch
Let's see if I've got this right;
in Mexico the locals think nothing of fishing licenses but when gringos take dead shells they must pay $1400.00?
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I've been places in Mexico and been told it is illegal to collect sea shells.
In the US on many Federal lands it is also illegal to collect sea shells.
Anyways, all most people do with the shells is throw them in the back yard after they lug them home, so why not leave them at the beach?
You would get more karma brownie points if you spent your time picking up trash at the beach instead of stealing houses from hermit crabs.
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Cypress
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I fully agree with mtgoat666's sentiments about hauling shells home from the beach and leaving assorted pieces of trash behind. 
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