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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 09:12 AM
stolen Hummer H-2


Does anyone have information about stolen cars being taken to Ensenada and put on a container ship headed to China? Is this a folk myth or does it happen? I'm trying to locate a stolen H-2.
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lol.gif posted on 10-21-2004 at 09:37 AM
What did it look like ?


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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 10:13 AM


Wow, this sounds like an urban legend. Kind of like drugs being smuggled in the bodies of dead babies. It may have happened, but every time the story is told, it happened to a friend of a friend.

Good luck finding your Hummer though.
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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 01:23 PM


Its all true, but the cars usually go to central and sour america.
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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 01:33 PM


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Its all true, but the cars usually go to central and sour america.


Except the really good ones. They go to the mayor, deputados, policia etc. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 01:44 PM


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Its all true, but the cars usually go to central and sour america.


Except the really good ones. They go to the mayor, deputados, policia etc. :biggrin:


Not anymore, democracy means our politicians can legally give themselves huge salaries and bonuses, so basically these bastards live wonderful lives using our taxes, and its all legal!!!

Isnt Mexican democracy great?




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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 01:59 PM


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Not anymore


Wow, Democracy? I missed that. Must have happend last night while I was asleep.

Anyway, It's nice to know that the Central/South America used car market is safe.:lol:




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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 03:07 PM


I've heard that some of the richest people in Mexican towns are the policemen...
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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 03:12 PM


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I've heard that some of the richest people in Mexican towns are the policemen...


Nope, its their bosses, the drugdealers.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 04:00 PM


...and the following doesn't include "los perkos"...


Taken from:
MEXIDATA . INFO
Columns 122203 Thompson




Monday, December 22, 2003



The privileged income of Mexico?s elected few



By Barnard R. Thompson



Recently elected state representatives in the Chamber of Deputies of Sonora, Mexico, literally in the hush-hush hours of the night, have raised their monthly salaries as of January 1 by a whopping MP$30,000.00 [US$2,671.00], bringing their annualized income to US$98,291.00. And that does not include often-extravagant additional perks.



The pay increases contrast to a yearly base salary of US$24,000.00 (plus per diem) that legislators are paid in the contiguous U.S. border state of Arizona, that according to census figures in the year 2000 had a population of 5.1 million. The Mexican census count for Sonora in the same year was 2.2 million.



Actually the Sonora salary increases bring that state?s unicameral deputies to be on par with California, where state congressional salaries begin at US$99,000.00. However the 2000 census for California recorded a population of 33.9 million, plus the economy of California ? depending of who provides the figures ? ranks as either the fifth or sixth largest in the world. Mexico as a whole ranks number nine worldwide.



Reportedly the Sonora funds were found in a ?secret entry? of MP$11 million [US$979,345] that the legislators decided to simply divide among themselves.



The December 18 session of the legislature ended at around midnight with the approval of Sonora?s 2004 expenditures budget. However afterwards, and even though he was one of the 31 deputies from all political parties who voted unanimously in favor of the pay raise, H?ctor Rub?n Espino Santana of the National Action Party blew the whistle on what he alone referred to as ?politically unethical prerogatives.?



Others said that the salary hikes will ?strengthen legislative work.? Patricia Pati?o Fierro, coordinator of the leftwing Democratic Revolution Party, argued that the added income does not increase salaries, as the money will allow legislators to do more in their communities. She also said ?the increase is not being disguised as it is duly shown that it will be used for legislative support tasks.?



So why then has this now revealed ?secret? fund been divided among 31 deputies as a salary increase rather than being designated for legislative tasks, the 21 congressional districts or the state?s 72 municipalities (counties)? It should also be noted that the added MP$30,000.00 monthly amount per legislator will have to come from regular ? vis-?-vis irregular? ? public funds beginning in 2005 unless other ?secret entries? might surface.



Real salary amounts to elected officials, along with perks, bonuses and who knows what else, have long been a virtual state secret in Mexico. Still, since President Vicente Fox Quesada took office in 2000 there has been a growth in transparency and access to government information.



When Fox took office on December 1, his base salary was equivalent to US$196,800.00, slightly less than the US$200,000.00 that Bill Clinton earned in his day. (The U.S. congress has since raised presidential pay to US$400,000.00 annually.) In May of 2001 the Mexican legislature increased Fox?s salary to US$306,000.00 per annum.



In the Fox government the lowest paid cabinet minister is said to earn a yearly salary of US$231,000.00. As to the legislative branch of the federal government, even with the openings to information that have occurred since 2000 there are still questions as to the real earnings of senators and deputies. Whatever the sums, almost everyone agrees that the base salary alone is well over US$100,000.00 per year.



Making things less palatable are poverty and economic hardship that are all too common in Mexico. And this extends to many wage earners who are fortunate enough to have jobs in the formal economy but who are paid salaries that are below the poverty line. According to The World Factbook 2003 (Central Intelligence Agency, Internet edition, update 12/18/03), approximately 42 million Mexicans live in poverty.



On January 1 increased daily minimum wage rates will go into effect in each of Mexico?s three (A, B and C) salary zones. The starting daily wage in each will be US$4.03, $3.89 and $3.75, respectively. At 4.25 percent up from 2003, the amounts are slightly above the current annualized inflation rate of approximately four percent.



But Mexican elected officials do not have to worry about the more mundane problems.



This year 1,754 office holders will receive his or her portion of MP$111.6 million [US$9.9 million] earmarked for obligatory Christmas bonuses. Of that, MP$42 million [US$3.7 million] will go to federal deputies who took office on September 1. In other words, US$7,478.00 for four months of (inadequate) work.



The share amounts for Sonora?s state deputies are still a secret.





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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 04:35 PM


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I've heard that some of the richest people in Mexican towns are the policemen...


Nope, its their bosses, the drugdealers.


In these parts they are one in the same.




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[*] posted on 10-21-2004 at 07:16 PM


Good gracious!!! I'm working in the wrong country, it would seem.

Anyway, how about giving us the Hummer's license plate and color? I have an H2 myself and always look at others. I, for one, will keep an eye out for your baby. By the way, fight like hell with the insurance company for full replacement. They work hard at fleecing the public but you paid your bills now it's their turn.




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