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Bajahowodd
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For me, the bottom line here is that we have over controlled a border between us and fundamentally decent folks. And what further stuns me is that
there are factions in our government seeking greater control.
Our friends to the South are not committing crimes against humanity. They are not developing technology to launch nuclear missiles.
The Mexican culture is deeply embedded in our Southwest and can be found just about everywhere throughout the states.
You folks on this forum have regular interchange with the folks in Mexico. How do they feel about draconian measures to keep them out?
Life is short. The US is a very wealthy and well armed nation. The idea of taking these draconian measures to exclude our neighbors to the South
simply does not make any rational sense to me.
And for all of you who can recall almost no delays at the border heading North, have fun sitting in line for hours.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
You folks on this forum have regular interchange with the folks in Mexico. How do they feel about draconian measures to keep them out?
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Mexico has two borders, Howard. They are worlds apart in more ways than one, and draconian measures are in place at both.
Most Nationals I know don't go out of their way to discuss either place, but they're aware of all of it.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Bajaboy
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Every time I watch COPS on tv and see some idiot run from the police....I tell my wife it should be "all bets off" on the assailant....yes there are
abuses on the side of police but when put in perspective, I am amazed at the bs they put up with on a daily basis....this extends to border patrol
agents as well.
For those of you that want to continue to make excuses for society's dooty....
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Bajajorge
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Goat, are you a whining, bleeding heart, liberal defense attorney in real life?
Maybe the poor rock throwing felon only did it because he was traumatized as a child by his mother who forced him to eat his oatmeal every morning.
 
Why do Liberals insist and demand that achievers pay the way for nonachievers who are to lazy to succeed, or are just failures by their own choice?
Criminals prefer unarmed victims, dictators prefer unarmed subjects.
Why do ignorant people continue their blabbering when it only proves to others how stupid they are.
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Bajafun777
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Let's see since 2002 we have had 26 Border Patrol Officers die in the line of duty and people still don't understand the amount of danger along our
border? The guy that was throwing rocks they damn sure were not small and he had been arrested by DEA and deported in the past, He was being chased
and ordered in Spanish and English to stop instead as they ran down the ravine and up the side of the mountain he picked up a bigger rock throwing it
down upon the officer that was struck by it and fire his weapon in self defense, If the agent would have gone totally down his weapon could have been
taken and he could have been killed like Border Patrol Offcer Rojas was in the backcountry, These individuals are directed by officers to stop and
instead they aggressively go after these officers, Enough said these officers are defending themelves and these individuals have mean dangerous
intensions towards these officers,
G a very dangerous job,
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
Goat, are you a whining, bleeding heart, liberal defense attorney in real life? |
partly correct, just a bleeding heart liberal and proud of it!
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chuckie
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So Sorry for you....keep cashing my checks....
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
You folks on this forum have regular interchange with the folks in Mexico. How do they feel about draconian measures to keep them out?
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Mexico has two borders, Howard. They are worlds apart in more ways than one, and draconian measures are in place at both.
Most Nationals I know don't go out of their way to discuss either place, but they're aware of all of it. |
But my point is that there are far worse border situations around the world. Ones that involve military dictatorships, folks who are developing
nuclear weapons, and folks that are violating human rights on a huge, appalling scale.
I just can't wrap my head around the idea that the Godfather of the Republican party signed an amnesty bill. Yet, today, his so-called acolytes won't
touch immigration reform with a long stick.
On a different note, I am greatly encouraged to see what is happening in Ukraine. Having been there a few times, I am happy that apparently the will
of the people can work. That said, please tell me the difference between the will of the people and democracy, inasmuch as a far greater number of
Americans want immigration reform. It's the will of the people, but apparently not democracy.
It's kind of like the war on drugs. Once corporate and government interests are enriching themselves in the battle, no change can occur.
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