Lobsterman
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Does Medicare cover you when you're overseas?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happens-with-medicare-when-...
Does Medicare cover you when you're overseas? What happens if you're traveling on vacation and get sick? Or what if you retire abroad?
The general answer is that Medicare coverage outside the U.S is available only in very limited circumstances, such as:
1.You're in the U.S. but have an emergency, and a foreign hospital is closer than the nearest U.S. hospital.
2.You have an emergency while traveling in Canada between Alaska and another state, and the Canadian hospital is closer than the nearest U.S.
hospital.
3.You live in the U.S. close to a border and a foreign hospital is closer to your home than the nearest U.S. hospital, regardless of whether it's an
emergency.
If you're traveling on vacation overseas, it's critical that you arrange for medical coverage during your stay. There are two ways to do this:
Buy travel insurance that will pay for medical services incurred during your trip, and/or provide for emergency evacuation back to the U.S. This
travel insurance can be purchased online, often for a few hundred dollars per trip. In many instances it covers other travel risks, such as flight
cancellation and lost luggage.
You can buy Medicap insurance policies that also will pay for medical emergencies incurred during foreign travel. Not all Medigap policies include
this coverage, so you need to look closely to make sure overseas travel is included. Often these policies can only be purchased during open enrollment
periods, so you'll need to think ahead if you're planning travel overseas. You might not be able to upgrade your policy just before leaving on your
trip.
It becomes more complex if you decide to retire overseas and live permanently outside the U.S. You'll want to make arrangements for medical insurance
in your host country, and it will vary substantially between countries.
"If you're overseas for an extended period, you might be tempted to cancel your Medicare until you return -- be careful," said Andy Landis, author of
"Social Security: The Inside Story." "If you re-enroll after a 12-month cancellation, your enrollment will be delayed. and you'll pay a late
enrollment fee for the rest of your life."
For most people, Medicare Part A, which covers hospital expenses, doesn't require a premium, so you should still be eligible for coverage if you
return to the U.S. However, since Medicare doesn't cover you overseas, you might be tempted to think you'll be able to stop paying Medicare Part B
premiums that cover outpatient expenses (currently $104.90 per month per person) and Part D premiums for prescription drugs (which can range from $30
to $50 per month). Or you might think that if you or your spouse or partner get really sick, you can just return to the U.S. for treatment and start
paying these premiums.
Think again. It's not that simple.
The Part B premium will increase by 10 percent for each 12-month period you were eligible but didn't pay premiums. The Part D premium will increase by
about 32 cents for each month that you forgo paying premiums despite being eligible. Let's look at an example to see how this could play out.
Suppose you live overseas for 10 years, during which time you decline Medicare coverage even though you're eligible. If you return to the U.S. and
enroll again in Medicare, your Part B premium would increase by 100 percent during that time frame (10 percent for each year in the 10-year period),
which would amount to an additional $104.90 per month in 2014.
According to Medicare's late penalty rules, your Part D premium would increase by about $38.40 per month in 2014. So the total penalty would add about
$143 per month to your medical premiums on top of the customary premiums -- double that if you're married. You'd most likely also have to include
premiums for Medigap coverage to supplement your Medicare coverage.
In addition, there are limited periods when you can enroll in Medicare if you cancelled Medicare coverage previously when eligible; you can only
enroll during January through March, and benefits start on July 1.
The Medicare issues described above aren't necessarily deal-breakers for your overseas adventure, whether it's just a short vacation or a more
permanent move. But they're definitely something to cover on your checklist.
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rocmoc
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Good post. I have a Medigap policy with United Health Care Plan F which does provide coverage to $50k outside the USA. If I remember correctly that
is a lifetime limit.
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
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durrelllrobert
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When I was hospitalized in Canada last year they called Kaiser and got permission to treat me and when I got back to US I submitted the bills that I
had to pay up front totaling almost $12k. Kaiser Sr. Advantage/ Medicare reimbursed me nearly $10k but I had to prove that I was just passing through
Canada. They wanted airline tickets but since I drove they accepted receipts from gas stations on the way up and back.
Bob Durrell
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SFandH
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From the medicare website:
http://www.medicare.gov/supplement-other-insurance/medigap-a...
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mtnpop
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My Humana medicare supplemental has a $25K international plan built in.
Same story,, if you need medical you need to get detailed receipts of what you pay and submit when you return... also, probably only if you tell them
you are traveling not a resident of Mexico.. and I believe thats lifetime amount also.
Humana is a fee for service plan... all bills go to thru them not direct to medicare... or that's what my plan is
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