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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
does it work for Fords?? |
I put one on my 7.3 diesel and it did make a difference in power and fuel economy,
plus it saves money on maintenance.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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BooJumMan
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Seriously, I think its awesome you guys are enjoying the AFe intakes. Just a few things to consider before dropping that much cash. Or at least what I
consider. To me it seems like a gimmick...
Don't you think that Toyota would have engineered their intake to be the most efficient? Having 5mpg increase on the sticker would increase sales
dramatically. Having extra 20hp would too.
Mathematically, how would the engine benefit from a cone filtered intake? The drag difference between stock and AFE is negligible (assumption).
If it were a true cold air intake, I could see it increasing power, but not MPG. Stoichiometric ratio of fuel and air do not change. If your pulling
in more air, your engine will inject more fuel. (Colder denser air would thus require more fuel, but increase your power, potentially).
I feel that a larger intake like the AFe would only be beneficial if you were to combine that with a larger diameter intake tube, Mass/Volume Air flow
meter, butterfly valve/Throttle body, higher flow injectors and possibly a chip to retard timing.
Basically I'm saying is that the engine is calibrated to suck in a certain amount of air, and it in itself is the bottle neck. Its like putting on a
fire hose on your home spigot...? 
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Udo
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Yes!
| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
does it work for Fords?? |
Udo
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BooJumMan
Seriously, I think its awesome you guys are enjoying the AFe intakes. Just a few things to consider before dropping that much cash. Or at least what I
consider. To me it seems like a gimmick...
Don't you think that Toyota would have engineered their intake to be the most efficient? Having 5mpg increase on the sticker would increase sales
dramatically. Having extra 20hp would too.
Mathematically, how would the engine benefit from a cone filtered intake? The drag difference between stock and AFE is negligible (assumption).
If it were a true cold air intake, I could see it increasing power, but not MPG. Stoichiometric ratio of fuel and air do not change. If your pulling
in more air, your engine will inject more fuel. (Colder denser air would thus require more fuel, but increase your power, potentially).
I feel that a larger intake like the AFe would only be beneficial if you were to combine that with a larger diameter intake tube, Mass/Volume Air flow
meter, butterfly valve/Throttle body, higher flow injectors and possibly a chip to retard timing.
Basically I'm saying is that the engine is calibrated to suck in a certain amount of air, and it in itself is the bottle neck. Its like putting on a
fire hose on your home spigot...? |
I
think you have a point if we were to compare a new factory air cleaner with the AFE, the paper filter that was standard on my truck did not have
nearly the amount of surface area as the AFE, and living in the dusty environment here in BCS, I would need to change out that expensive filter often
to maintain optimum performance, whereas with the AFE, I can simply remove it, wash it out with soap and water, spray new oil on it and I'm good to
go.
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Hook
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Agree completely with Boojum Man. If it was that easy to get that kind of increase in performance and efficiency, Toyota would have already done it.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Agree completely with Boojum Man. If it was that easy to get that kind of increase in performance and efficiency, Toyota would have already done it.
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agree.
i suspect that aftermarket air filter system probably voids your warranty, so be careful if you still have warranty on engine. perhaps only add such
after warranty expires?
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willardguy
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soooo...what do you figure, Udo reaped the benefit of a strong tailwind?
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Lengua
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I thought you just bought this cute place
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Udo
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All I know is that I drove with a full tank from Tustin, CA, and made it to Ensenada via Tecate, and then returned via Tecate to Tustin and still had
some gas left over when I filled up at Costco on Jamboree.
I have never been able to do that before.
Tail wind to and from the border?
I don't know.
I am not a salesperson for aFe, and my original comments were directed at DK regarding my house for sale.
You guys want to argue about the aFe air filter system, be my guest.
I'll just start another thread about the house for sale!
Udo
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bajaguy
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I put 8 gallons of gas in his tank when he was here in Ensenada
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
All I know is that I drove with a full tank from Tustin, CA, and made it to Ensenada via Tecate, and then returned via Tecate to Tustin and still had
some gas left over when I filled up at Costco on Jamboree.
I have never been able to do that before.
Tail wind to and from the border?
I don't know.
I am not a salesperson for aFe, and my original comments were directed at DK regarding my house for sale.
You guys want to argue about the aFe air filter system, be my guest.
I'll just start another thread about the house for sale! |
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Udo,
Again, good luck with the house sale.
As for the thread deterioration....some of us have the attention span of a gnat 
Don't believe everything you think....
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woody with a view
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got my intake for $100 used, with the dry filter. non CARB compliant, but either am i!
no drone. going to BdeLA and back next weekend so i'll be able to see apples to apples fuel and power differences.
UDO, any hits on the house? hope your feeling better!
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ChicaSierra
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I WISH we could! We just don't have our exit strategy worked out, YET...
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Make me an offer I can't Refuse
Here's your competition Udo:
Bob Durrell
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Udo
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My sincere appreciations, Robert!
Udo
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Udo, your house is regal and beautiful. unfortunately i could only afford to rent a broom closet. Cmon you people out there get with the BA swing of
things. Heck even the road is repaved.
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Sweetwater
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  | Udo,
Again, good luck with the house sale.
As for the thread deterioration....some of us have the attention span of a gnat |
Yup, and if it get's ugly and political enough, it can get locked up.
But seriously, if I didn't have some personal medical interventions in process, I'm looking into a southern relocation just like this. And if those
interventions take, I'm definitely needing an environment that puts me into this market.
Best of luck with your property Udo......
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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