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New means of nationalizing U.S. automobile?
I have a 2005 automobile registered in So. Dakota that I would like to nationalize in BCS. Cost is prohibitive to nationalize an automobile that old.
I'm wondering if this amnesty program might be a possibility. Any idea when a BCS amnesty might occur?
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/government-announces-amnest...
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Are you familiar with anapromex? [Sp?]
Might be something that could work for you.
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geraldalexander7
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I have heard of Anapromex. How does it work?
Facebook.com/Gerald Beltran
Casas & Condos for rent in La Paz...$100US per/month.....Daily & weekly rates also.
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I understand it's a union of some kind that is litigating the legality of cars that are not nationalized. Inexpensive to join and get a license
plate. It seems to work in BCS, except in places where the federal police has exclusive jurisdiction, like the airports. There, the rumor is that
the federales confiscate cars with anapomex plates.
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I'll keep my eyes open for addresses and contacts info for those offering services to get plates for foreign vehicles. I drive by but didn't pay
attention to the street addresses...
By the way, CA USA DMV allows you to register your CA car to your address in Baja and be exempt from many fees and smog inspection if it is located
below the frontier regions like TJ, Ensenada, stated cleary in the DMV book, all my DMV paperwork gets sent to me in Baja, just go online and change
the vehicle address to your address in Baja preferably where mail gets delivered or use a reliable intermediary mail service, also the majority of the
state of California is Smog Inspection exempt, except high population areas so you can look up CA DMV smog exempt zip codes and use an address of a
friend that can act as intermediary and FEDEX/DHL the stuff to you or pick up in person, you can use CA DMV form 256 to declare exemption since the
vehicle is not in California or speak to local DMV or use South Dakota etc.
New forms of regularization of "Chocolate" or "Chueco", foreign plated cars that are not registered in Mexico are being discussed for proposal said
AMLO because not everyone has money for new cars nor for importation yet they should have the opportunity to register their cars and have some process
to legally transit (or something like that, are in the news, though, it's not clear what that means just yet, conversations are in process). Here are
a few articles to review.
Regularización de autos “chocolate”: entre beneficiar a “cárteles aduanales”, evitar delitos y contaminación
https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2021/10/13/regulariza...
Autos chocolate: Una promesa presidencial al borde de la corrupción
https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2021/09/23/autos-choc...
Anapromex or Onappafa is a state Amparo or legal argument that people have the family patrimonial right to petition to transit in a form outside of
Federal or State official forms of registration since those are prohibitive of freedom of liberty of movement which is a constitutional right, or
similar argument, costs are usually about $1500-3000 pesos or so the last time a I looked.
http://registro.anapromex.com/politicas/
Mapa de Amparos (legal stay order to allow another form of non state vehicle registration)
https://lucid.app/lucidchart/66d599d7-a860-4b5d-a4fd-1f1862a...
In my circle, many have Padron Vehiculo Placas (I don't know if this applies to the topic but it seems like it does when no title exists since they
get plates for non imported un titled unregistered cars for local vehicle circulation)
https://ahorraseguros.mx/seguros-de-autos/guias/padron-vehic...
https://www.gob.mx/segob/acciones-y-programas/consulta-al-re...
https://web.facebook.com/Anapromex-cabo-san-lucas-3189134923...
https://web.facebook.com/Anapromex-La-Paz-103308066842892/?_...
More on AMLO plan to offer options for regularization of foreign vehicles-use a translation tool to copy and past the url to read like
google translate
https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/2021/10/13/amlo-va-...
https://www.milenio.com/politica/amlo-mes-inicia-regularizac...
https://www.adn40.mx/poder/amlo-regular-autos-chocolate-mana...
https://heraldodemexico.com.mx/nacional/2021/8/9/amlo-fija-f...
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/regulacion-de-autos-chocolate-afe...
https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2021/07/amlo-propone-
[Edited on 10-16-2021 by gnukid]
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john68
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Thanks, gnukid. Very helpful. Yes, please let us know if you see anything about agents in BCS who might help with the process.
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I followed up bit, Padron Vehicular is another form of plated vehicle without importation, I like it because its a plate and looks legal, as well
there are many others like Anapromex which are more paper like and need to be laminated "plastificar" to last, with signed support from AMLO
Federally.
The idea is that all people have legal avenues to local registration without the unreasonable cost in the price range of 500-3000 pesos and its
supported nationally. There are some 35,000 vehicles at least in La Paz region that can now be registered for circulation without harassment and more
in every region, and they can not be restricted according to signed law.
John, Where are you trying to get plates?
[Edited on 10-17-2021 by gnukid]
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john68
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La Paz.
I’m concerned about reports of confiscation of anapromex cars by the federales at SJD. I understand that Mexican citizens can’t drive U.S. plated
cars.
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john68
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Announced today that the regularization of illegally-imported cars is effective in BCS and the border states immediately.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/illegal-used-car-amnesty-si...
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The thing I am wondering is what actually constitutes an "illegally imported vehicle"? Exactly what is a "chocolate"?
Is it simply a car that has been left in Mexico, while the owners leave the country?
Is it a car with fraudulent importation papers?
I can see advantages to using this new method to import the car that I leave in Mexico. No more TIP or bond for taking it into the Mexican mainland,
south of Empalme.
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Any more information on this process in La Paz and who might be available to assist?
Thank you.
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john68
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Any further news on this process in BCS?
Thank you.
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gnukid
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Business as usual, many people use the alternate vehicle registrations. You go to the office near, such as Anapromex, bring a copy of something like
east registration or title or a declaration the car is yours, perhaps identification, pay your money and leave with plates, many go to Office Depot
make copies and Laminate them in case of damage or theft.
Most or most people in pueblos near la Paz use these, because you need something to transit la Paz without being harassed when driving a chocolate.
Police have said in news reports they will be more diligent to ticket people without plates since these options exist.
Recent News - Nothing has changed as of yet
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/no-se-quitaran-autos-chocolates-p...
"It is important to point out that, even the head of the federal Executive Power, Andrés Manuel López Obrador acknowledged that the process of the
regularization of cars has been delayed, since since December of last year the decree was issued, which, for a modest amount, was they could
regularize such transports."
Examples below, do a search on Facebook or the web to find offices, I linked some earlier in the thread. There are more options.
Padron Vehiculo
Onappafa
Anapromex
http://tramites.bcs.gob.mx/catalogo/registro-de-alta-en-el-p...
https://web.facebook.com/pg/PadronVehicularAmericanOficial/p...
https://web.facebook.com/Anapromex-La-Paz-103308066842892/?_...
[Edited on 1-14-2022 by gnukid]
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john68
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Anapromex, etc., will work most places, but there are several reports of Federal police confiscating cars with those plates at SJD.
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Quote: Originally posted by john68  | | Anapromex, etc., will work most places, but there are several reports of Federal police confiscating cars with those plates at SJD.
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Actually, there are no validated reports of cars being confiscated at SJD for temporary plates, only rumors from years ago. I have spoken to people
who have traveled to the airport and even crossed on the Ferry with Anapromex. Perhaps it depends on how much the Federales like your car? The car
should be properly outfitted with lights and so forth, have insurance and driver should be licensed.
The Police at the airport turnaround and the Toll road routinely shakedown visitors with wild threats, if you stay calm, they let you go in minutes,
they just want some money, its a play on emotions. At the moment, AMLO and other politicians clearly state those who have temporary plates may not be
harassed for being in process of legalization with temporary plates.
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john68
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Good information. Thanks.
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Read to the bottom of the page for CBP export requirements.
https://amigosdebucerias.org/essential-info/to-nacionalizar-...
Es Todo Bueno
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When that was written I had more hair on my head, could hear better and had less trouble reeling in a Yellowtail.
Pretty old info, do you think the rules have not changed like the tide?
As most things in Mexico things change like the wind.
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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