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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 11:41 AM


It shows on your map in low light.

Start east at La Balleena.
Goes ne by San Raymundo, Los Panales, El Mezcal.
Stay east/straight at jct that goes N to Guadelupe.
Goes south of rancho Agua Agria.
Comes out of the mtns to your bullet on green track that goes ne to Mulege. Very scenic ride,

Driven every day by the local rancheros out there.
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 11:58 AM


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Here is an alternative route that is East of yours going into El Rosario. It rides Haggy's Mesa. Never do it, but it looks like a lot of fun.






That looks awesome, I'm definitely adding that on my to do list!
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 12:00 PM


There is a YouTube video of guys riding bicycles on it. I searched but can't find it at the moment. It is bad azz.




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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 12:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
The view.



That looks amazing but I think at this point we will be lucky to make it to La Paz with enough time to return. I dont think we will get further than that. Maybe next trip though!
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 12:03 PM


Dang! That is a lot of remote trail riding.

You appear to have an outstanding knowledge of GPS navigation, but even so should count on some extra miles on the trail as a result of taking a wrong turn at a fork in the road. It happens to everyone.

A low-tech backup navigation aid is a good addition to the electronic stuff. In a pinch, with a paper copy of the Benchmark atlas and an old Nuvi GPS you can find your current location by using a ruler to mark an X on the map from the latitude and longitude printed along the edge of the page. A compass can then be used to show the direction to your intended destination. The old Garmin Nuvis are super reliable and can be purchased for cheap on eBay. You don't need the built in maps, just the GPS function to determine latitude and longitude as a backup in case you primary GPS navigation system fails without warning, as they are prone to do at the worst possible time.
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 12:07 PM


For GPS I like Back Country Navigator and Gaia.

I prefer satellite view over topos. Both of them allow you to download satellite images for off-line use. It does take a lot of memory to download all of Baja. Time too. But well worth it. It's like you can see yourself riding on the trails.

You should consider handheld radios. Can get maybe a mile or so out of them. Baofeng makes good ones.





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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 01:03 PM


I think we will be set for navigation between the group. some of us have Gaia, Garmin Explore, E32, and a handfull of other apps along with a couple Handheld GPS devices. The problem is even with all this access to information, we don't know what trails are do able and what trails are not!
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 01:11 PM


One question that has been looming is this gpx track I have found, allegedly for the Bill Nichols Trail. However I have also found a different track also labeled Bill Nichols Trail. So my question is, is this the real one or something else?

Attachment: Bill Nichols Trail.gpx (38kB)
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 02:26 PM


I wish these would open for me. Can you post a kmz file?
Bill Nichols made many m/c trails.

The first one, most know about is the Rock or Rockman Trail, from near Puertecitos west to Hwy. 1, north of Cataviña.

Another trail is to L.A. Bay without roads, parallel to the north of the paved road.

Another is south from El Rosario, then around that south region to Cataviña.




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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 04:02 PM


Yes, that is the Bill Nichols Rock (or Rockman) Trail.

Here is a web page I made about it featuring a letter from 'slider' (Kevin Ward), with a track map from 'bajalou'.
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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 04:17 PM


Rockman trail is workout on a 500, not sure I would do it on anything bigger. We did the haggy ridge trail a few years back and it was a blast. Doable on bigger bikes.

The other single track off of the two track from El Rosario is fun. I've heard it called the cactus trail. One of my favorites. I think I sent it to you?

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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 04:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by advrider  
Rockman trail is workout on a 500, not sure I would do it on anything bigger. We did the haggy ridge trail a few years back and it was a blast. Doable on bigger bikes.

The other single track off of the two track from El Rosario is fun. I've heard it called the cactus trail. One of my favorites. I think I sent it to you?

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How difficult/dodgy was Haggy?





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[*] posted on 2-26-2023 at 09:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DizzyNick  

Unfortunately we dont know anyone in baja...


Dizzy, I live in San Felipe and could offer support in a bad situation from say the border to Bahia de Los Angeles or a bit south. Not a bike guy but I could get to just about anywhere you are going that a truck could do. I have a trip to the states early April but will be back here on the 12th.

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[*] posted on 3-10-2023 at 10:59 AM


Thanks everyone for your input!
After some talk amongst our group, we have made a timeline draft.
Once again I ask for your advice, and to reference the map posted earlier to see which way we will get to these destinations. We decided to cut out la paz in favor of spending multiple nights at other locations. Our biggest dilemma has been which places to spend more than one night at, so any input here would be great appreciated!


1 tecate to San filepe. Easy dirt 200kms
2 San filepe to San quintin. Easy dirt through the mountains 250kms
3 San Quentin to Catavina. Big ride day. Mixed beach, highway, dirt, single track 300kms
4 Catavina extra day
5 Catavina to Guerrero Negro. Big ride day. Single track, dirt roads, possibly highway at the end 300kms
6 Guerrero Negro to San Juanico. Easy ride day. Main routes. 300kms
7 San Juanico to Loredo. Fun ride day with beach stop at Agua Verde 200kms
8 loredo to Mulegé. More scenic roads. 250kms
9 Mulegé to Bahia Las Angeles. Big ride day, less travelled roads. 300kms
10 Bahia las Angeles extra day
11 Bahia las Angeles to Alfonsinas. Window rock trail, fun double track. 175km
12 Alfonsinas to ensenada or San Quintin
13 get to tecate
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[*] posted on 3-10-2023 at 05:32 PM


I would let how everyone feels determine where I would spend an extra day or two. All the major towns have their + and -.
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