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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 10:10 AM
Controlling spam posts (and civility in general)


I recently reported a post using the report button and it subsequently disappeared. Perhaps a few trusted moderators on some sort of schedule that have the capability to delete offending posts that have been reported, including SPAM, would improve the situation.

IMHO it's not all that bad tho.


[Edited on 9-15-2020 by SFandH]




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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 10:48 AM


The Report button is all that we can do and then be patient waiting for Doug to get online to deal with the spam and (of course) 'JJJ' (using different handles) and his weekly, repeated attack on many Nomads and the president.

I think the bigger issue is the lack of new Nomads, or maybe lurking Nomads who don't post anymore. We have a couple Nomads who seem to enjoy chasing off newbies by criticising how they enjoy Baja. Why bother share trip reports when told they are enjoying Baja incorrectly!? LOL

Finally, with travel to Baja shut down for most of us, there will be less trip reports, less questions & answers, less new photos. So, let's be patient... give many thanks to Doug for keeping Nomad alive, now for over 18 years. This is our Baja home when we can't be in Baja. For those who live in Baja, it is their view to other parts of Baja and other Baja people.

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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 12:50 PM


"Sort of like erasing the work of a tagger asap."

exactly! although jjj's chit doesn't really bother me, I just skip over it....but im surprised Doug doesn't authorize a member to have the power to delete. hmmmm who could that be?:light:




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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 01:33 PM


I'll volunteer to be a Mod and take out some of the trash.

Goat will be on a very short leash.

And the Coronabro's who are telling everyone to remain in their basements and shaming ppl for visting Baja will have to shape up as well.



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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 03:23 PM


Having moderated a much smaller bulletin board a few years ago, I can confirm that it is a thankless job that few will think you're doing adequately. Bad actors don't keep normal business hours, meaning that cleanup could be needed at any time of day or night. My biggest problem back in the day were spam links. Only once did I have an abusive character to contend with, and that user didn't come back after being banned.

Nowadays users can concoct an infinite number of email addresses and can use proxies so as to avoid being blocked by IP address. I don't envy Doug, but I do appreciate his efforts to keep this site afloat.




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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 04:16 PM


Spam.

Hawaiians have the largest per capita consumption of Spam.

(Side note: I had a long project in Hawaii and used to be there monthly. I found the HI food very heavy, and I avoided it. I never ate the Spam. I think their 2 significant positive contributions to cuisine are loco moco and poke.)

As a kid I was occasionally fed Spam. Bleh. My tastes in processed meats ran to fried bologna (makes a great sandwich).




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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 05:23 PM


I want to give huge thanks to moderators and others who deal with spam here. I get a lot out of this Baja Nomad forum. BN is way more useful than the Facebook alternative. No way to search on Facebook!



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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 06:15 PM


I agree! This board is awesome!! When we went to the mainland, I got so much info from here. Baja news gets shared so fast. My students could not go to college without everyone's help. For that, there are not words in existence to thank all the angels and Doug for making this space happen.

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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 06:58 PM


I volunteer to take the spam with bacon blend! It is in my emergency food stash, and goes on the road with me as well. I have to admit, the road pack spam has made two round trips to Baja without getting used.

By the way, bush Alaska probably consumes more spam per capita than anywhere else!




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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 07:35 PM


Fortunately there has been a decrease in posts about US politics.

All such posts should be forbidden.

Fried spam and eggs is a tasty dish!

[Edited on 9-16-2020 by SFandH]




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[*] posted on 9-15-2020 at 08:25 PM


My 2 cents worth: Spam is a minor issue here and spam posts are easily recognized and ignored. As to jjj, his early morning weekend posts tend to be sort of entertaining these days compared to years past. In any case they don't last long. The problem with more moderation is the number of political comments that show up. It seems to me inevitable that moderators would be biased in choosing which posts they delete. I would welcome the elimination of all US political comments on a site which is after all supposed to be about Baja. I don't expect that to happen however and I think Doug does a just fine job showing, IMHO, a lot of tolerance.

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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 06:45 AM


A car club I belong to had to shutdown their forum due to the lack of moderators and the inability of members to adhere the simple rules around personal attacks and POLITICS.

The umbrella national organization told us it would be inevitable.

Other forums have a Off-Topic & Political Forum. As a logged in user, you are warned and acknowledge that there is a second level of moderation that gives you a time out for bad behavior in only that part of the forum. The off-topic forum has group agreement of all the moderators to TRY to eliminate bias.

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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 07:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  


GOOD SPAM: Back 45 or so years ago I always carried cans of Spam along with canned peaches and other fruits which were great trade goods. Traded for lobster in Scorpion Bay and for shrimp from the boats anchored at Santispac.


If you are into canned meats, you might find canned ham or paté better than spam. There are some really good patés out there if you look around.




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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 07:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I volunteer to take the spam with bacon blend! It is in my emergency food stash, and goes on the road with me as well. I have to admit, the road pack spam has made two round trips to Baja without getting used.

By the way, bush Alaska probably consumes more spam per capita than anywhere else!


yup, bush Alaska wouldn't be the same without spam and sailor boy pilot bread
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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 10:05 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  


GOOD SPAM: Back 45 or so years ago I always carried cans of Spam along with canned peaches and other fruits which were great trade goods. Traded for lobster in Scorpion Bay and for shrimp from the boats anchored at Santispac.


If you are into canned meats, you might find canned ham or paté better than spam. There are some really good patés out there if you look around.


Note that I didn't say I consumed it, just that it was great for trading. Fat ans sodium levels are far beyond what I am willing to consume.








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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 10:11 AM


i am reluctant to admit it...i like spam. i always kept a few cans in the airplane in alaska. it also plays a role in my marshal law, civil unrest, supply chain breakdown menu.
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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 10:30 AM


Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
i am reluctant to admit it...i like spam. i always kept a few cans in the airplane in alaska. it also plays a role in my marshal law, civil unrest, supply chain breakdown menu.

Me too! There is just so much history in a can of Spam!





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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 10:36 AM


Offal stuff.



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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 03:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Offal stuff.


quite right. i have little doubt a factory tour would change my mind.
however, spam is likely less nasty than a hotdog. most of which contain no meat. [as in muscle tissue] and are from other parts of animals.
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[*] posted on 9-16-2020 at 04:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Offal stuff.


quite right. i have little doubt a factory tour would change my mind.
however, spam is likely less nasty than a hotdog. most of which contain no meat. [as in muscle tissue] and are from other parts of animals.


at least spam is not tripe! (i hope)

one great thing about travel is marveling at the variety of revolting things that people eat in USA and other countries

i will always taste any food once, but often not twice!

to keep it baja related,... chicharron and mendudo are on my list of banned foods!




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