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pauldavidmena
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Protecting Todos Santos
I've noticed that the organization has a presence on Facebook as well, so it seems legit. One can't join (see https://www.protecttodossantos.org/join-us without entering one's contact info (email and phone number) in addition to the region of Todos Santos
in which one resides.
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4x4abc
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reminds me of what I learned in Los Angeles:
An environmentalist is someone who built last year.
Harald Pietschmann
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4x4abc
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Todos Santos has already gone down the drain.
Now they are doing the same in El Triunfo.
Driving force one of the Walmart billionaires.
San Antonio (a very charming place) is trying to protect itself witha rule that properties can only be sold to locals.
Question is whether that holds up in court.
I won't even mention La Paz.
What a mess!
$2,000 US for a one bedroom apartment
Harald Pietschmann
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David K
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A plaque with that on it would be something! Sort of like "what's okay for me is not for thee".
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What does that mean? Built last year? Clarity please.
What environmentalist builds anything anyway? They do serve to inform the rest of us on what could happen if we ignore the indications of humankind's
behavior toward protecting our planet for future generations to come.
I suspect these future generations will have little to thank us for what we are leaving behind through our short sightedness.
My belief that humanity will wise up in time to avert what is coming is lacking until I see folks, mostly the younger set, who step up for defending
our existence on this one and only planet humanity has been given.
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Some day an asteroid will clean up earth. Maybe the successor dominant species wont flock it up next time.
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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surabi
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I guess you don't know any actual environmentalists.
Or do you not make any distinction between building resorts and hotels catering to tourists who have no regard for how much water and other resources
they waste and how much garbage they create, and an individual who builds themselves a modest cabin
without destroying any of the natural environment around them, putting in sustainable energy sources and practicing conservation?
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Alan
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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  |
I guess you don't know any actual environmentalists.
Or do you not make any distinction between building resorts and hotels catering to tourists who have no regard for how much water and other resources
they waste and how much garbage they create, and an individual who builds themselves a modest cabin
without destroying any of the natural environment around them, putting in sustainable energy sources and practicing conservation?
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I'm afraid this kind are very rare. The majority I encounter are the self-proclaimed environmentalists more
like 4X4abc described
In Memory of E-57
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Lee
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Pave paradise and put up a freaking parking lot
Environmentalists sounding the alarm.
Todos isn't a lost cause but it's happening. I see development between La Poza and San Pedrito coming in. Semarnat has been bought off. Where
is Profepa? More McMansions in my area. More pools. 2 story limit? Not if you have money.
$700/night at Rancho Pescadero and 103 rooms. Outside money. Triunfo is next.
Address the issues if you know the area. Otherwise, it's ignorant bias from misguided gringos.
I don't like it but that's the way it is. Don't have a dog in this fight anymore.
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What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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pauldavidmena
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I remember seeing several 3-story monstrosities from your place as if the regulation was only a suggestion. On El Otro Lado there are quite a few
homes being built into dunes with the same audacity. Occasionally there is enough of an uproar to halt construction on one of them, but those are more
the exception than the rule. I hope groups like these are able to make an impact before Todos Santos becomes a Paradise Lost.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alan |
I'm afraid this kind are very rare. The majority I encounter are the self-proclaimed environmentalists more like 4X4abc described
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As I said, then you don't know any actual environmentalists.
Misrepresenting actual environmentalists, as if they are all hypocrites, isn't funny or okay.
It's akin to saying all Christians are hypocrites because some pastor spews hate speech and is a child molester.
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pacificobob
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Those darned environmentalists !
I long for the air quality of 1960s los Angeles
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4x4abc
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | an individual who builds themselves a modest cabin
without destroying any of the natural environment around them, putting in sustainable energy sources and practicing conservation?
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if you are serious about protecting what is left, you don't build a cabin
sustainable is leaving Nature alone
and by the way, it sounds a bit like "I am better than the others"
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Alan
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That was my point
In Memory of E-57
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if everyone built a modest cabin, the cumulative effect, regardless if those humans "put[ ] in sustainable energy sources and practicing conservation"
is still affecting the empty space that existed before the cabin was built and the humans started creating their polluting ways: trash, sewer,
pesticides, burning? Contributing to inadequate landfills, noise, light, pets. destroyed habitat for creatures. Own up.
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surabi
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I see- so you don't see any difference between a person building a home for themselves on 100 square meters of land, while taking care not to disturb
the natural environment around them, and a person building a 4 story hotel with 200 rooms, destroying the natural landscape in the process.
It's impossible to carry on a sane conversation with people like you.
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pacificobob
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there exists a large difference between "picking fights" and calling out asinine posts.
[Edited on 2-14-2024 by pacificobob]
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surabi
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Thanks, Bob. The misinformation and disinformation that is so ubiquitous these days, if left unchallenged, becomes truth in the eyes of many. I don't
consider calling it out everytime it appears to be "picking fights", either.
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Thanks, Bob. The misinformation and disinformation that is so ubiquitous these days, if left unchallenged, becomes truth in the eyes of many. I don't
consider calling it out everytime it appears to be "picking fights", either. |
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